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Is that Wall Street Journal article on tax plan real? If so it's completely 180

The whole thing is great. See: http://xoxohth.com/thread....
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
I'm still LOLing at lawcucks getting pwned meanwhile, I h...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
law-cucks didn't get owned brother. Their overall taxes w...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
they aren't getting the pass-through benefit so I disagree w...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
Associates will all benefit. Fuck partners. And how are ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
c-corps aren't pass through entities, bro. s-corps are. I'll...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
ah C-corp. Are you going to call everything profit? Your...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
I don't think that far ahead. that's what my accountant is f...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
LMFAO "won't bother me, I filed a couple pieces of p...
irradiated tanning salon knife
  11/02/17
dumb here. what's so great about it?
Drab vibrant ratface field
  11/02/17
Tax brackets are lowered. Keep 401ks. Keep state deduction...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
so UMCs not fucked?
Drab vibrant ratface field
  11/02/17
what does it do to the death tax? does it repeal the AMT?
chestnut windowlicker den
  11/02/17
estate tax cap gone in 6 years, exemption doubled for now. ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
87654321235676543212345678765432345
chestnut windowlicker den
  11/02/17
yeah the entire thing is completely 180
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
freedom cuckus and blue state House Republicans better not f...
chestnut windowlicker den
  11/02/17
I'm not even sure what dems won't like except the state dedu...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
naw everyone likes this
fishy swashbuckling stage
  11/02/17
I read this in Mark Renton's voice.
comical market lettuce
  11/02/17
...
Hairraiser Pink Ape
  11/02/17
The article said state and local property tax, not income
brass magical people who are hurt
  11/02/17
AMT is rapepwned is the part i'm excited about i am pissed ...
Frum church building electric furnace
  11/02/17
lol, jesus dude you have a childlike grasp of this stuff
irradiated tanning salon knife
  11/02/17
can someone c/p the whole thing? thank.
Orange Temple
  11/02/17
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/house-republicans-unveil-tax...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
We have ~$300K HHI in a high COL state. Wagecucks, mortgage....
Drab vibrant ratface field
  11/02/17
LOL @ sociopaths who ask what's best for them instead of wha...
chestnut windowlicker den
  11/02/17
so does it help me or not? serious q
Drab vibrant ratface field
  11/02/17
UMC W2cucks in million dollar homes are going to get boned a...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
For a million dollar loan it's only like $6-$7k more a year ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
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Ultramarine Masturbator Kitchen
  11/02/17
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naked property
  11/02/17
Your income from $90k-$260k is only capped at 25%. The next...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
seems cr DINK with HHI ~330k, i'd have about 43k in deducti...
rebellious main people
  11/02/17
No you’re getting fucked. Chances are your mortgage is more...
Hideous Nursing Home
  11/02/17
fuck.
Drab vibrant ratface field
  11/02/17
Eh not on $300 income. Depends on his interest payments
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
Also, even though you'll get a slightly lower marginal tax r...
Ungodly tank pozpig
  11/02/17
So everyone loses the exemptions, but the standard deductio...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
We are getting fucked hardcore. It is like ~$50-60k of dedu...
Hideous Nursing Home
  11/02/17
It can't be that much. You can still deduct interest for ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
I was talking more about state tax deduction. I paid $50k i...
Hideous Nursing Home
  11/02/17
Jfc California
Vigorous blathering state pistol
  11/02/17
180
claret very tactful idea he suggested
  11/02/17
For most high-income wage earners who pay a lot of state and...
Slippery Office
  11/02/17
Property values in pricey areas will get raped too.
shaky sanctuary hissy fit
  11/02/17
As much as I’d like for that to be the case, mortgage rates ...
Hideous Nursing Home
  11/02/17
This is a mixed blessing.
Learning Disabled Abode
  11/02/17
180
naked property
  11/02/17
only applies to homes purchased after the bill. old homes ke...
Racy puce patrolman
  11/02/17
fucking scum boomers.
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
Didn't the article say the mortgage interest change was only...
Learning Disabled Abode
  11/02/17
(Boomer who will never ever move)
shaky sanctuary hissy fit
  11/02/17
how much does this add to the deficit?
Sepia trip principal's office juggernaut
  11/02/17
1.5T i think
Frum church building electric furnace
  11/02/17
So everyone gets what they want except high end homebuilders...
Olive Razzle Site
  11/02/17
I’m eyeing the housing market in DC and NYC and Boston and C...
Free-loading Fluffy Range
  11/02/17
I think taxes may be raised upper middle class on people in ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
lmao @ earl
razzle-dazzle degenerate love of her life
  11/02/17
...
Crawly philosopher-king
  11/02/17
Yeah a chance of higher rate but no amt... can't tell how it...
Olive Razzle Site
  11/02/17
And there's a tax break for poors, middle class, and your in...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
Investments? You mean the pass through stuff or did they do ...
Olive Razzle Site
  11/02/17
Corporate taxes
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
So I get double standard deduction at 12,700, instead of the...
soggy ivory jap
  11/02/17
Probably. But this wasn't about cutting taxes for upper mid...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
I get that, just trying to figure out the impact on me.
soggy ivory jap
  11/02/17
This is confusing as hell, but I assume it will fuck me har...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
yes it's grandfathered in. But to be fair, it was people ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
So on one hand, the cap on the interest deduction will not...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
Don't you have to pay the AMT?
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
I sure did.
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
That'll be gone
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
Major Trumpmo here. I'm getting fucked under this deal.
Canary boyish institution
  11/02/17
how so?
Drab vibrant ratface field
  11/02/17
SALT. S Corp pass thru taxation (although I didn't see this,...
Canary boyish institution
  11/02/17
How would the S-corp thing hurt you? It can only help
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
Revenue would be taxed twice, no?
Canary boyish institution
  11/02/17
It's pass through same as before.
Olive Razzle Site
  11/02/17
'pass-through' *drools*
irradiated tanning salon knife
  11/02/17
Lawyer? Doesn't sound like S Corp is changing for you.
Olive Razzle Site
  11/02/17
Nice! Still going to get boned on SALT though.
Canary boyish institution
  11/02/17
State your income and state
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
NY. Property taxes are 15k. Income is idk because I just joi...
Canary boyish institution
  11/02/17
Income tax rate will be lowered a good bit
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
Is there a cap on property tax deductions which is separate ...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
property tax deduction would fall under state and local tax ...
Slate hell mexican
  11/02/17
lol so $10K total? Fuck my ass kyle.
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
It's separate, to answer your question. You get the interest...
Olive Razzle Site
  11/02/17
PROPERTY TAX. You get zero state tax deduction as I read i...
brass magical people who are hurt
  11/02/17
...
fishy swashbuckling stage
  11/02/17
looks like capped at 10k but who knows where that ends up p...
rebellious main people
  11/02/17
is it capped separately or is state income tax + property ta...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
All SALT (including property) deductions capped at $10k. ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
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Primrose Bipolar Mental Disorder
  11/02/17
State and local is capped at $10k total.
Slate hell mexican
  11/02/17
AMT is gone but it's a red herring. You'll never get close t...
Ungodly tank pozpig
  11/02/17
(Guy who doesn’t have oil and gas assets or rental propertie...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
business expenses taken through an S or C corp are not itemi...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
Right, but all this shrieking about itemized deductions gett...
big cowardly cruise ship
  11/02/17
not small businesses.
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
Anti trump person here. I make out like a bandit with these ...
dead orchestra pit
  11/02/17
Nah shitlibs in SF, LA, and MFH are paying up so it won't ad...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
I could get behind this if he’d stop with the tantrums and h...
dead orchestra pit
  11/02/17
So last year I paid $35,000 in state income tax, $10,000 in ...
lake beady-eyed dingle berry location
  11/02/17
Youll still be able to deduct most of that mortgage interest...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
This is the fuck homeowners in first tier metro areas bill. ...
Slate hell mexican
  11/02/17
These are people that deserve to be fucked, i.e. shitlibs. ...
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
Our states usually pay out more in federal taxes than we tak...
Slate hell mexican
  11/02/17
Good. This federal spending is shitlibs' doing. Strip it. Ma...
Frum church building electric furnace
  11/02/17
lol get fucked
Hot Business Firm Shitlib
  11/02/17
enjoy!
rebellious main people
  11/02/17
(New states rights activist)
brass magical people who are hurt
  11/02/17
...
cobalt roommate
  11/02/17
...
fishy swashbuckling stage
  11/02/17
Those guys need to get fucked. I am ok with this.
metal ticket booth background story
  11/02/17
then don't fucking live in the NYC suburbs if you can't affo...
Beta house tattoo
  11/02/17
...
fishy swashbuckling stage
  11/02/17
Now you’re subsidizing corporations AND poors.
Passionate Puppy Gas Station
  11/02/17
(tax welfare queen)
zombie-like wonderful university hunting ground
  11/02/17
is it mortgage interest for homes up to 500K, or mortgage in...
odious hilarious elastic band fortuitous meteor
  11/02/17
Mortgage
lime exhilarant rigpig
  11/02/17
This definitely helps with future purchases (for current hom...
Learning Disabled Abode
  11/02/17
Trump has a good heart.
comical market lettuce
  11/02/17
Does it take effect for 2017 taxes?
tan massive rehab legend
  11/02/17
no way it's retroactive, would fuck up withholding penalties...
rebellious main people
  11/02/17
Damn BORING
tan massive rehab legend
  11/02/17
loling at all the blue state republican like Nutella who tho...
fragrant theater milk
  11/02/17
Not a Trumpmo, but TBF, this shit delivers for the middle cl...
topaz soul-stirring indian lodge
  11/02/17
not really. the simplification is great, but it adds to the ...
zombie-like wonderful university hunting ground
  11/02/17
lol debtcucks you're all gonna starve
Dun excitant stage
  11/02/17


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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:48 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

The whole thing is great.

See: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783214&mc=25&forum_id=2#34586561

Edit: CNBC article: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/house-republicans-unveil-tax-reform-plan.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587449)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:51 AM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

I'm still LOLing at lawcucks getting pwned

meanwhile, I have a c-corp already in use I can migrate everything into and probably shave 5-10% off



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587483)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:52 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

law-cucks didn't get owned brother.

Their overall taxes will go down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587488)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

they aren't getting the pass-through benefit so I disagree with this, at least for the higher end lawlers

most lawlers are flat broke so this will benefit them for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587501)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Associates will all benefit. Fuck partners.

And how are you getting pass through benefit? Did you read the thing on S-corps? They aren't treating people like you as corps and taxing you normal income rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587518)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

c-corps aren't pass through entities, bro. s-corps are. I'll close my s-corp and migrate everything into my c-corp which has a max 20% rate instead of the current 35%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587536)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

ah C-corp.

Are you going to call everything profit? Your salary will be taxed twice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587538)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

I don't think that far ahead. that's what my accountant is for ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587555)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:47 PM
Author: irradiated tanning salon knife

LMFAO

"won't bother me, I filed a couple pieces of paper with the secretary of state and I'm a tax mitigating masterman, soooooo smart!"

"hey you know your salary gets hit twice and you have to dick around with your dividends and..."

"whoa whoa whoa hey buddy I let the accountants handle the math, ya know?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589939)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: Drab vibrant ratface field

dumb here. what's so great about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587494)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Tax brackets are lowered. Keep 401ks. Keep state deductions up to $10k. Keep mortgage interest rate deduction up to $500k worth of loan. Doubled standard deduction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587506)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:54 AM
Author: Drab vibrant ratface field

so UMCs not fucked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587513)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: chestnut windowlicker den

what does it do to the death tax? does it repeal the AMT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587517)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

estate tax cap gone in 6 years, exemption doubled for now. AMT gone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587523)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: chestnut windowlicker den

87654321235676543212345678765432345

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587528)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

yeah the entire thing is completely 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587539)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: chestnut windowlicker den

freedom cuckus and blue state House Republicans better not fuck this up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587546)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

I'm not even sure what dems won't like except the state deduction cap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587568)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:32 PM
Author: fishy swashbuckling stage

naw everyone likes this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589792)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: comical market lettuce

I read this in Mark Renton's voice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587530)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Hairraiser Pink Ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588597)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: brass magical people who are hurt

The article said state and local property tax, not income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588062)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: Frum church building electric furnace

AMT is rapepwned is the part i'm excited about

i am pissed SALT is still in, it's a fucking handout from red states to blue states, fed gov needs to stop subsidizing cali's bs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589350)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:50 PM
Author: irradiated tanning salon knife

lol, jesus dude

you have a childlike grasp of this stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589972)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: Orange Temple

can someone c/p the whole thing? thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587545)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/house-republicans-unveil-tax-reform-plan.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587549)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Drab vibrant ratface field

We have ~$300K HHI in a high COL state. Wagecucks, mortgage. Does this plan help us?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587566)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: chestnut windowlicker den

LOL @ sociopaths who ask what's best for them instead of what's best for America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587574)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: Drab vibrant ratface field

so does it help me or not? serious q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587578)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

UMC W2cucks in million dollar homes are going to get boned and end up paying more. nobody cares about you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587588)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

For a million dollar loan it's only like $6-$7k more a year in taxes for the FIRST year. Get less every year after that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587671)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:37 PM
Author: Ultramarine Masturbator Kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590320)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: naked property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588039)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Your income from $90k-$260k is only capped at 25%. The next $40k is at 35%. It should help.

But if you are in a huge state taxes state it will probably hurt a tad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587586)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: rebellious main people

seems cr

DINK with HHI ~330k, i'd have about 43k in deductions under the current system and if a couple of assumptions are correct (e.g. personal exemption disappearing), looks like reasonable worst case under new system is that i owe an additional 1.5-2.5k if i didn't itemize, but i probably would still be able to itemize so knock off another 1k or so from that. NBD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587697)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:18 PM
Author: Hideous Nursing Home

No you’re getting fucked. Chances are your mortgage is more than $500k and your SALT deductions are way over $10k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587725)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: Drab vibrant ratface field

fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587773)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Eh not on $300 income. Depends on his interest payments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587817)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: Ungodly tank pozpig

Also, even though you'll get a slightly lower marginal tax rate, you're losing the $4,000 in personal exemptions you currently get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587829)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

So everyone loses the exemptions, but the standard deduction is doubled for poors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587877)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: Hideous Nursing Home

We are getting fucked hardcore. It is like ~$50-60k of deductions going away. Elimination of AMT will help somewhat to soften the blow but not nearly enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587981)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

It can't be that much. You can still deduct interest for loan amount up to $500.

Thats like $22,000 a year in interest deduction you lose for your first year of loan. Goes down every year after that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588049)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Hideous Nursing Home

I was talking more about state tax deduction. I paid $50k in state taxes last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588306)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:39 PM
Author: Vigorous blathering state pistol

Jfc California

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34592468)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:52 PM
Author: claret very tactful idea he suggested

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588575)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:23 PM
Author: Slippery Office

For most high-income wage earners who pay a lot of state and local income taxes, itemized deductions weren't as valuable as they looked. AMT and Pease walked most of it back unless your circumstances were unusual. So this bill is probably closer to neutral for you than you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34592838)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: shaky sanctuary hissy fit

Property values in pricey areas will get raped too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587971)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: Hideous Nursing Home

As much as I’d like for that to be the case, mortgage rates themselves and all cash buyers rather than mortgage interest deduction will keep things inflated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588002)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:06 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Abode

This is a mixed blessing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590075)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:09 PM
Author: naked property

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590106)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: Racy puce patrolman

only applies to homes purchased after the bill. old homes keep 1mil deduction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588145)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

fucking scum boomers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588153)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:05 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Abode

Didn't the article say the mortgage interest change was only for newly purchased homes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590069)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: shaky sanctuary hissy fit

(Boomer who will never ever move)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34592495)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: Sepia trip principal's office juggernaut

how much does this add to the deficit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587579)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Frum church building electric furnace

1.5T i think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589376)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: Olive Razzle Site

So everyone gets what they want except high end homebuilders? That has to fuck the budget in its ass, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587607)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: Free-loading Fluffy Range

I’m eyeing the housing market in DC and NYC and Boston and California.

All those 1.5 million shitshacks are going to take a tumbling. Which is great for me when I move back to the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587640)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

I think taxes may be raised upper middle class on people in NY and California but fuck them.

Except no more AMT i think so maybe not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587647)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:12 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle degenerate love of her life

lmao @ earl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587664)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:17 PM
Author: Crawly philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587704)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:18 PM
Author: Olive Razzle Site

Yeah a chance of higher rate but no amt... can't tell how it'll work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587713)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

And there's a tax break for poors, middle class, and your investments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587756)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: Olive Razzle Site

Investments? You mean the pass through stuff or did they do something with cap gains?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587833)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Corporate taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587856)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:24 PM
Author: soggy ivory jap

So I get double standard deduction at 12,700, instead of the 26000, or so local tax deduction. But also, AMT goes away and I probably get a slight reduction based on the bracket shrinkage. So I'm what, dead even?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587814)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Probably. But this wasn't about cutting taxes for upper middle class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587822)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: soggy ivory jap

I get that, just trying to figure out the impact on me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587849)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

This is confusing as hell, but I assume it will fuck me hard.

Is the mortgage interest deduction grandfathered in? The cap on deducting state taxes will really fuck me because I think I pay something like $30,000 in state taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587842)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

yes it's grandfathered in.

But to be fair, it was people like you who GOP was trying to fuck. 99% of them are shitlibs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587862)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

So on one hand, the cap on the interest deduction will not affect my current home, but it may hurt the sale price when I eventually sell it. It will not be available when I buy my more expensive next time in five years, but it may contribute to the place being lowered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587891)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:33 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Don't you have to pay the AMT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587916)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

I sure did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587926)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

That'll be gone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587972)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Canary boyish institution

Major Trumpmo here. I'm getting fucked under this deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587893)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Drab vibrant ratface field

how so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587902)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:33 PM
Author: Canary boyish institution

SALT. S Corp pass thru taxation (although I didn't see this, I'm just gleaning from the comments here).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587918)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

How would the S-corp thing hurt you? It can only help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587928)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: Canary boyish institution

Revenue would be taxed twice, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587943)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:37 PM
Author: Olive Razzle Site

It's pass through same as before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587950)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:54 PM
Author: irradiated tanning salon knife

'pass-through'

*drools*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589990)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: Olive Razzle Site

Lawyer? Doesn't sound like S Corp is changing for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587946)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:37 PM
Author: Canary boyish institution

Nice! Still going to get boned on SALT though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587953)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

State your income and state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587909)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: Canary boyish institution

NY. Property taxes are 15k. Income is idk because I just joined a small firm as a partner on a purely eat what you kill arrangement. Probably 175k-200k paid to my s corp from the partnership next year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587935)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Income tax rate will be lowered a good bit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587977)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:38 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

Is there a cap on property tax deductions which is separate from the mortgage tax deduction? I just realize that if they get rid of the alternative minimum tax, I may be able to start deducting my property taxes again which would be nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587960)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: Slate hell mexican

property tax deduction would fall under state and local tax deduction which I think is now capped at $10k under this plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587985)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

lol so $10K total? Fuck my ass kyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588006)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: Olive Razzle Site

It's separate, to answer your question. You get the interest deduction plus 10k of local/ state/ property tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588027)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:54 PM
Author: brass magical people who are hurt

PROPERTY TAX. You get zero state tax deduction as I read it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588094)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: fishy swashbuckling stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590165)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: rebellious main people

looks like capped at 10k but who knows where that ends up

prop tax, SALT, and mtg interest all seem like candidates to get tweaked between now and a vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587993)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:44 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

is it capped separately or is state income tax + property tax capped at $10K together?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588017)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

All SALT (including property) deductions capped at $10k.

Pay up shitlibs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588038)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 7:21 PM
Author: Primrose Bipolar Mental Disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34591071)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Slate hell mexican

State and local is capped at $10k total.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588043)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: Ungodly tank pozpig

AMT is gone but it's a red herring. You'll never get close to hitting AMT now. Basically, the only itemized deductions that will be left are up to $10k per year on property taxes, interest on $500k mortgages, and charitable donations. That's it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588005)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:44 PM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

(Guy who doesn’t have oil and gas assets or rental properties)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588013)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

business expenses taken through an S or C corp are not itemized deductions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588023)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: big cowardly cruise ship

Right, but all this shrieking about itemized deductions getting axed is solved by my previous post

Businesses (especially real estate) are getting preferential treatment. Wagecucks are getting boned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588079)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:10 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

not small businesses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588236)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: dead orchestra pit

Anti trump person here. I make out like a bandit with these cuts. Moving to the south was a great move. LOL at suburban NY Trumpmos about to get crushed.

Not sure it’s wise to be adding so much to the deficit but at least I’m getting my piece.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34587978)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Nah shitlibs in SF, LA, and MFH are paying up so it won't add to deficit. Fuck yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588020)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: dead orchestra pit

I could get behind this if he’d stop with the tantrums and hiring all these hacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588167)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: lake beady-eyed dingle berry location

So last year I paid $35,000 in state income tax, $10,000 in property taxes, and something like $8,000 or $9,000 in AMT. Also deducted $24,000 in mortgage interest.

Sounds like I am fucked...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588087)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Youll still be able to deduct most of that mortgage interest. The longer you've had it and less the loan is over $500k the more youll still get to deduct.

You will go from $69,000 in deductions to probably like $25,000-$30k, which would be about $14k extra in taxes but the AMT elimination makes up for a lot of that disparity and your actual income tax will be lowered.

You'll pay like $5k more maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588144)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: Slate hell mexican

This is the fuck homeowners in first tier metro areas bill. $10k+ is the norm just for property taxes in NYC suburbs, let alone state income tax. A slight reduction in rates isn't going to make up for all of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588178)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:09 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

These are people that deserve to be fucked, i.e. shitlibs.

They can pay for all the shit they demand for minorities and poors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588225)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Slate hell mexican

Our states usually pay out more in federal taxes than we take in. This makes the disparity even worse.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/which-states-give-the-most-the-federal-government-which-get-the-most.htm

"Henchman is a Californian himself and understands why his Golden State neighbors grumble about subsidizing federal aid programs in other states. For one thing, large amounts of federal spending allow red state governments to keep their taxes artificially low. The highest individual state income tax rate in Mississippi and Alabama in 2016 was 5 percent, while top-earners in California and New York paid 13.3 percent and 8.82 percent respectively."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588356)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:12 PM
Author: Frum church building electric furnace

Good. This federal spending is shitlibs' doing. Strip it. Maybe they'll stop voting for shitlib stuff, and maybe it'll make rapetiles realize they need to spend a little more to keep there from being a billion homeless twinks in alabama.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589611)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:38 PM
Author: Hot Business Firm Shitlib

lol get fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590328)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:41 PM
Author: rebellious main people

enjoy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590345)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 6:02 PM
Author: brass magical people who are hurt

(New states rights activist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590494)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: cobalt roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34591082)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: fishy swashbuckling stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34591268)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: metal ticket booth background story

Those guys need to get fucked. I am ok with this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588598)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Beta house tattoo

then don't fucking live in the NYC suburbs if you can't afford the taxes. or stop electing shitlibs who get the taxes to those levels in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589397)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:14 PM
Author: fishy swashbuckling stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589626)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:09 PM
Author: Passionate Puppy Gas Station

Now you’re subsidizing corporations AND poors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590101)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:39 PM
Author: zombie-like wonderful university hunting ground

(tax welfare queen)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34592981)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:10 PM
Author: odious hilarious elastic band fortuitous meteor

is it mortgage interest for homes up to 500K, or mortgage interest for mortgage up to 500K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588237)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:14 PM
Author: lime exhilarant rigpig

Mortgage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588265)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:13 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Abode

This definitely helps with future purchases (for current homeowners).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34590140)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:13 PM
Author: comical market lettuce

Trump has a good heart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34588249)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:16 PM
Author: tan massive rehab legend

Does it take effect for 2017 taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589176)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: rebellious main people

no way it's retroactive, would fuck up withholding penalties and a bunch of other things. at this point they'll be lucky if they get it done in time for 2018

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589268)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: tan massive rehab legend

Damn BORING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589404)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: fragrant theater milk

loling at all the blue state republican like Nutella who thought they were going to save some cash. Fuck em!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589418)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: topaz soul-stirring indian lodge

Not a Trumpmo, but TBF, this shit delivers for the middle class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34589461)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:40 PM
Author: zombie-like wonderful university hunting ground

not really. the simplification is great, but it adds to the deficit bigly to fund massive cuts for corps and pass-through businesses. the ultra rich are going to make out like bandits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34592994)



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Date: November 2nd, 2017 7:24 PM
Author: Dun excitant stage

lol debtcucks you're all gonna starve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783306&forum_id=2#34591086)