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Reminder: This tax plan completely fucks shitlibs in California and NY
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Adventurous Jew I pray it passes. I'm sure they'll end up increasing the cap on SALT but hopefully no more than $25,000 or so.
They want dem programs for their pet constituencies? Great, they can pay for it. Don't whine assholes, the rich are morally SUPPOSED to pay for people to sit on their ass at home and have kids, remember? Maybe California shouldn't have such high taxes.
Thank you for your sacrifice Earl. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:27 PM Author: Maize federal keepsake machete state even if it ends up fucking me too, it will be worth it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599382) |
Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595166) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:50 AM Author: sepia whorehouse Excellent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595173) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:50 AM Author: alcoholic selfie corner what about the Trumpmos in NY and CA? don't you feel for them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595174) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:51 AM Author: talented circlehead All 9 of them can move. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595179) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 2:49 PM Author: Stirring candlestick maker lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597086) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:30 PM Author: flushed fat ankles odd case:
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california
ny even more extreme: Trump probably would've won except for MFH
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york
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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:44 AM Author: Brindle sexy son of senegal sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607042) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:51 AM Author: Adventurous Jew There aren't many. The ones who are are probably rich enough to beat the system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595183) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:53 AM Author: duck-like effete scourge upon the earth stain wrong and wrong
but anyway i support this bill because its a step in the right direction for our country and the economy. i am one of those GOP bros in CA who will get fucked a little (~5K) but its OK |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon No I don’t. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595196) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 5:42 PM Author: Carmine Very Tactful Dilemma Ladyboy :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598158) |
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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:41 AM Author: Concupiscible coiffed abode deer antler We all need to move. These places are unbearable for trumpmos anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607030) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM Author: duck-like effete scourge upon the earth stain To be fair
It fucks as many good conservative bros from CA/NY as libs. CA is deep blue but once you dig into voting based on income level you will find that close to 50% of middle class (>150K HHI) is probably republican |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM Author: Adventurous Jew It helps those people moron.
It only starts hurting at about $300k in HH income or so. Probably not noticeable till $450-$500k.
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:55 AM Author: duck-like effete scourge upon the earth stain depends on a lot of factors. if you have 200K house hold income in CA with a home you are definitely going to lose some money. may not be a lot but you will lose some because of 10K property tax cap, SALT and removal of personal exemptions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595224) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:57 AM Author: Adventurous Jew Yeah but your rates go way down.
Also, $200k household income shouldn't have a house worth more than $700k or so. Effects would be negligible.
And SALT won't' really hurt because $10,000 is still allowed. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:58 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen just do living in a van, given CA real estate prices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595252) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:03 AM Author: Razzle emerald fortuitous meteor if this passes as is those prices will move (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595325) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:06 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen that will really please all those GOP blue state voters whose wives are selling real estate on the side. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595360) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:07 AM Author: Razzle emerald fortuitous meteor this or open borders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595367) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen i think blue state GOP care a lot more about this shit than the racial politics that drives the more extreme elements of the right. they are not 4chan chuds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595401) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:57 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen and when those voters, who wrongly consider themselves "middle class," see they are paying higher taxes while "the rich" are getting massive tax cuts, they will be pissed. i don't get how the GOP doesn't get the optics of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595243) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM Author: Adventurous Jew BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE PAYING HIGHER TAXES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595262) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen i don't think anyone can say with confidence how this will all play out given that the bill is going to change a TON before (and if) it becomes law. but on balance UMC are getting fucked and that's bad for GOP, especially given that the wealthy are going to make out like bandits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595295) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: Adventurous Jew The middle class people you are talking about won't be hurt.
The 2% will.
Libs are completely out of touch. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen these people are a lot of my family and friends. feel pretty comfortable with my analysis. time will tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595432) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:52 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon You literally think the majority of people are making 200k+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595745) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: talented circlehead “The rich” pay so goddamn much of the income tax it would really hard to cut taxes only on the MC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595427) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM Author: deranged bull headed azn i hope you're right, but please show your work for a family making $350k in a $1.5m house with a $1.2m mortgage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595292) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:56 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen yep. and if you think the average suburban voter is going to blame state politics for getting fucked on this, you're insane. this will just be another reason for dem voters to hate the GOP, and a plausible reason for pocketbook voters to support dem candidates in red pockets of blue states. the average voter isn't going to process this as anything other than an increase in their taxes. and, to be fair, that is what it is.
i have a hard time seeing this getting out of the senate as drafted. and i think you'll see a lot of defections from GOP reps in blue states, because they will see the implications of this on their reelection bids. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:58 AM Author: Adventurous Jew How dumb are you?
This is a tax increase on the top 2% in shitlib states.
The average voter is helped by this. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM Author: alcoholic selfie corner the average suburban voter in NY/CA are UMC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595267) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM Author: Adventurous Jew you are very low IQ.
You said average voter originally. Nice edit.
Now you are talking about average suburban voter in NY/CA who would never vote Trump anyway. This isn't anything close to the "average voter" |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen hey dumbass, UMC suburban voters are the reason there are GOP reps from blue states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595304) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:05 AM Author: Adventurous Jew Eh they have become pretty fucking shitlib lately.
It's the uber rich and middle class that vote GOP in those states. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen *leans into microphone* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595406) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Adventurous Jew *grabs your head and gives you a noogie* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595430) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:02 AM Author: alcoholic selfie corner you're responding to the wrong guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595313) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen i'm not a strong opponent of addressing this deduction. but the "average voter" in blue states won't be affected by this and isn't shifting to the GOP because of this bill. the GOP has a strong constituency of UMC suburban voters in blue states that will get hurt by this, and they will be pissed. there is a reason the GOP reps from blue states are pissing themselves about this provision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595276) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM Author: duck-like effete scourge upon the earth stain you are wrong about any pocket book voters switching to dems. not going to happen when they know that dems are much much worse on taxes. also this is painful for a narrow band of people - people making 300K~700K. below 300K you might lose a little bit but not so much that you are going to seriously notice it. and these people would be educated enough to know about dems and also will have other concerns (immigration, guns, free speec etc) to switch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595288) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:05 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen guess we'll see, brother. i don't think the average UMC suburban voter is primarily driven by immigration and guns in blue states. a lot of them are pro-choice and moderate on social issues, but just want "government to balance their checkbook" and "keep them safe." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595354) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:17 AM Author: duck-like effete scourge upon the earth stain you must have been sleeping through 2016 election cycle. the only way these people will switch is if the economy tanks.
identity politics is here to stay however much you pray against it |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:54 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon No you don’t get it, they’re going to vote dem for a tax cut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595759) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 2:58 PM Author: Dark Hateful Principal's Office and war is peace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597141) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university Are libs honestly going to vote against any form of a middle class tax cut? You guys are the blind leading the blind, suddenly concerned about how we can pay for these tax cuts for the middle class, lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595297) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:03 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen as UMC i should be paying higher taxes. i just think this is a dumb, poorly thought out bill that will primarily fuck UMC people, have little impact on the actual poor and middle class, and give a huge boon to the wealthy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595328) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university Any income tax cut to the lower and middle tiers necessarily causes benefits up the progressive chain. “Huge boon” to the truly wealthy is a red herring because they are sheltered to an extreme. You want to transfer wealth? Here son, take this Picasso and hang it on your wall. Why not take a tax break that matters to working stiffs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595375) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen totally agree. putting money and benefits in the hands of the poor and middle class is great because they spend everything while the rich hoard their wealth. if you're looking for a guy to say we should work harder to fuck the wealthy and redistribute wealth down the food chain, i'm you're man. but i don't think this tax cut bill does any of that and the net benefit to the people who should have lower tax burdens (and more benefits) is minimal in proportion to the benefit received by the people that have hoarded wealth and created this hellworld of astronomical productivity gains and stagnant to declining wages and opportunity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595426) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Autistic Nowag I thought Libs love higher taxes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595300) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:04 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen Yeah, I support higher taxes. My point is this seems like dumb politics from the GOP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595338) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM Author: Adventurous Jew Fuckingn over people that don't vote for them anyway?
Uh no |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen whatever you say champ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595438) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:35 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon And we all know liberals experts on what is and isn’t good strategy for the GOP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595634) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:36 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen game recognize game. there are plenty of GOP pols i loathe but think are smart at playing the game. the current leadership are not among them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595641) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon I’m saying Libs don’t have any game so wouldn’t be able to recognize it. Current GOP leadership won house, senate and state governorships (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595677) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:43 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen If you're looking for someone to argue the Dems are good at running a political party, you're barking up the wrong tree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595687) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:46 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon I’m just confused why you’re so arrogant re: your analysis. What have you accurately predicted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595704) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 12:01 PM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen breaking: dude on xo is arrogant about his opinions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595807) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:55 AM Author: talking vermilion space How exactly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595220) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 10:59 AM Author: Adventurous Jew SALT deductions gone over $10,000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595268) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:02 AM Author: deranged bull headed azn only property taxes to $10k. no state income taxes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595317) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Adventurous Jew That was the plan but haven't seen anything definitive.
Some articles have said its both |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:47 AM Author: mustard regret telephone pretty sure it's just prop taxes - i think the articles that say otherwise are probably written by dumbs who misinterpret other articles that label the current proposal as " state and local property taxes" etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595708) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:00 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig Tax plan adds 1.5 trillion dollars in debt over ten years. GOP has made no serious effort at spending control. But keep talking about dem programs! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595283) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Adventurous Jew link to adding to debt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595302) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig http://thehill.com/policy/finance/353097-senate-unveils-2018-budget-resolution
The budget would allow the tax reform package to increase the deficit by $1.5 trillion over a decade, though some Republicans argue this would not be the case because of gains from the economy.
‪ http://www.crfb.org/blogs/tax-cut-and-jobs-act-will-cost-15-trillion‬
Of the $1.5 trillion cost, roughly $1 trillion comes from business tax cuts. Individual tax cuts make up another $300 billion, and the ultimate repeal of the estate tax accounts for the remaining $200 billion.
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 3:01 PM Author: Dark Hateful Principal's Office funny how libs thought dynamic scoring was totally appropriate for evaluating the ACA but not for tax reform (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34597165) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:03 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university Yeah libs are honestly concerned about the commonweal. Give me a break. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595323) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen deficit hawking is so stupid. we aren't on the gold standard, and the "deficit" is basically just a measure of how much inflation we'd have to endure to pay all our bills overnight. and we don't need taxes to pay for government spending either now that we're off the gold standard either. taxes are basically just a way to drive demand for currency and control money supply when all is said and done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595389) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM Author: infuriating pistol deficits matter, and any attempt to dismiss them is garbage
the proper defense here is that that deficit is going to get run up, if not by Rs than Ds. so we're in a super defective game where both parties just have to race to max out the credit card before the other one gets its hands on it.
on that basis, I'd rather see the card get maxed out on modest improvements to the tax code than paying for some grand high-speed rail project that runs directly from the capitol building to diane feinsteins house or whatever stupid garbage libs dream of blowing money on. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen there is a hypothetical "deficit" that matters but we're not even close to it yet, and you don't really address my point that there is not such thing as a "deficit" when all the bills are paid with money printed by the payor. deficits only matter to the extent they represent potential long-term inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595626) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:32 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig It matters because in order to pass senate with 51 votes, they need deficit in year 11 to be zero. The official estimates put out by congress yesterday has a deficit of 150 billion in year 10, so this can't pass the senate without significant changes (easiest would be end tax breaks at 10 years, but good luck with that). I don't know if they could go "nuclear" on the Byrd rule though; I imagine they'd be wary of giving the dems that power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595617) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen i get the politics of it. i'm making a different point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595631) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:35 PM Author: mint theatre legit made me think of things in a new light. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599422) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:08 AM Author: alcoholic selfie corner How are the super wealthy affected by this plan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595386) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:11 AM Author: Iridescent deep national It looks like a modest screwing of blue state umc's for a modest tax cut for other umc's. According to bloomberg this morning the bottom 35% of households would see no gains, and the big winners would be c-corp entities that previously had high effective rates. Peter King (GOP rep from Long Island) already came out against it. I think enough blue-state GOP congressman will ultimately vote against it to kill it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595408) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595442) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM Author: Adventurous Jew How did they calculate that the bottom 35% would receive no gains?
I'm sure they are fudging the math. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:18 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig If you pay no income taxes (as opposed to payroll taxes) you won't receive a benefit because I don't think any of the new credits are refundable (I.e. Wont get you a negative income tax rate). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595475) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:30 AM Author: Adventurous Jew Oh so it's people that already don't pay income tax not receiving even more welfare.
I think we can all be okay with that. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:32 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon Not all of us apparently... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595616) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university Likely false. Increased standard deduction with no change to earned income credit = benefit increase to low income people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595612) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:36 AM Author: cheese-eating black woman elimination of personal exemptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595643) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:43 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university Apologies. For a family of four, it works. For refugees with 8 kids, it may not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595691) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:37 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig But they are eliminating personal exemptions so that cancels out the standard deduction to some extent. And how would that benefit people paying no taxes? (Not saying they need more money, but they are in the bottom 35 percent). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595651) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:19 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university This false premise is the libs’ excuse not to support the proposed tax cut plan that benefits everyone but a handful of UMC in Cali and NY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595484) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM Author: exciting business firm wrinkle cr couldn't imagine the GOP voting against the interests of UMC coastal shitlibs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595447) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:20 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen reminder: the right wing of the GOP is driving the bus, but they aren't the only people riding on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595492) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:33 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon You don’t think Ryan has looked at this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595622) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen sure, but he is teetering on the bring of losing leadership and maybe his seat. the right wing is running shit in the house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595662) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon And you don’t think they’re going to like estate tax elimination and sweeping tax curs for the middle class? Wealth tax on the Ivy League. Higher taxes on NY and CA Libs. This works out great for Texas. I’m pretty far right and love this. What do you think the issue will be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595670) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen the GOP loses power if it loses seats in blue states, and the bill will have a really fucking hard time passing the senate as currently formulated. if this thing passed as currently formulated, i think it would be a net negative for the GOP in 2018 and 2020. so by all means, pass it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595684) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:44 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon I don’t think higher taxes on top 10% earners is going to cost them anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595693) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:46 AM Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595706) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:48 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595717) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:19 AM Author: duck-like effete scourge upon the earth stain they will tweak and adjust it to get it to pass. that would be my guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595482) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM Author: Magical Arousing Halford Dragon you must Be flame. Everything you say is dishonest. Bottom 35% of households are welfare beneficiaries and of course pay nothing in taxes. Be sure to point that out next time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595611) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM Author: Adventurous Jew Libs are always like this.
They call a reduction in welfare a "tax increase" on poors. LMAO |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM Author: Snowy stimulating university Likely worse than that. Increased standard deduction means lower agi and more eic. So not only do they not pay already, in many cases, they’ll get more welfare/wealth redistribution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595632) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 2:52 PM Author: Stirring candlestick maker and right on cue to talk out of your ass
yep, doubling the standard deduction only benefits the top 1% and has no impact on the middle class. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:11 AM Author: puce field WA bros come out pretty good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595414) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:21 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig Yeah, and Texas too. I'd be surprised if SALT stays property tax only though. A cap makes sense, but picking one form of taxation is dumb (although I get why they did it). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595502) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:24 AM Author: deranged bull headed azn why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595541) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:28 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig Narrowly targets trump area of New York (Long Island, upstate) which have high property taxes, while screwing renters in NYC (who pay a local income tax but no direct property taxes). Also benefits Texas which has high property taxes but no state income tax. Can you guess where the chairman of ways and means is from? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595586) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:31 AM Author: Razzle emerald fortuitous meteor coming down hard on property tax and mortgage interest would have too much impact on housing market. this as is will still impact housing market in high COL areas (and in higher end market of not high COL areas) but taking away all housing gimmes at once might be disastrous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595608) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:34 AM Author: contagious knife pozpig Home builders and realtors still hate the law. This is trying to buy off people like Chris Collins in New York and Tom McArthur in New Jersey. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595630) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 5:43 PM Author: Carmine Very Tactful Dilemma Ladyboy It won't work without state taxes being deductible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598171) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:30 AM Author: Adventurous Jew It is extremely dumb. Is there any justification besides helping high property tax states?
States with no property tax at state level will just move to that from income tax |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 11:25 AM Author: Chartreuse razzmatazz codepig library It seems fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34595547) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 5:56 PM Author: provocative base filthpig I have gotten zero credit for property taxes since I have been an AMT payer.
Explain how this helps or fucks me? I know zero about it. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 6:20 PM Author: frozen dog poop Wrong. Gives high tax blue states an incentive to lower state taxes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598488) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 6:22 PM Author: Dark Hateful Principal's Office yeah im sure jerry brown will get right on that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34598495) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:36 PM Author: Electric stage water buffalo cr, ljl at the California legislature ever approving that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599426) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 8:43 PM Author: Dark Hateful Principal's Office theyre the most insane people in the country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34599475) |
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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:43 AM Author: Concupiscible coiffed abode deer antler lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607040) |
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Date: November 5th, 2017 12:40 AM Author: Concupiscible coiffed abode deer antler This is the best part of a pretty mediocre bill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3784264&forum_id=2#34607025) |