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Housing mastermen: dissuade me from buying a 100+ year old house (pics)

Going to to buy a house in the burbs for babydood and puppyd...
Brumus
  11/10/17
depends on how well the electric and plumbing are holding up...
Texas Lawmaker
  11/10/17
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Seamen on Broadway
  11/10/17
Will home inspector be able to figure that out, or do I have...
Brumus
  11/10/17
kind of both. what was posted downthread, depends on how 180...
Texas Lawmaker
  11/10/17
I would absolutely not bet on that happening either.
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
yeah you just have to assume shit's going to break and cost ...
Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle
  11/10/17
"depends on how 180 your inspector is and if he catches...
~~(>' ' )>
  11/10/17
wow, one of those is way better than the other two
Seamen on Broadway
  11/10/17
I bought a 101 year old house and it always costs way more t...
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
>>if it was renovated recently, I can almost guarantee...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
180 idea. I'd have both go through at the same time so they ...
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
>> if you want to renovate an old ass house and make m...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
On balance, are you glad you bought the old house? How much ...
Brumus
  11/10/17
yes, but I make a fuckload of money right now in a low COL a...
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
Cold, drafty, small closets, scary basements, 250 feet of pi...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
Yeah that's awesome. You spend 13 hours a day in a totally f...
Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle
  11/10/17
tbf my house is a severely overpriced SV POS and I'm pretty ...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
Gotta love all of the CHARACTER in an old house.
Brumus
  11/10/17
yeah understandable if you're a fag who needs fiber optics r...
Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle
  11/10/17
large closets are 180 simply because it lets you be disorgan...
beef brisket
  11/10/17
Women's | Obscene | Spending on Clothing (that they don't we...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
*makes predictable azngirl joke*
beef brisket
  11/10/17
It's really all of them. Fortunately my wife is more JCre...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
there's a difference between girls who spend money to look h...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
Yeah, all fair. I'm more of a tshirt and jeans guy w/r/t gi...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
i've come to hate jeans on girls
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
MFCR. ljl @ all the heebs and gooks itt TERRIFIED of having ...
cool kids slurping a milkshake, 2 straws
  11/10/17
Oh no, not WOOD! Can I get something made of essentially pl...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
As everyone here has said, it's fine if you're willing to sp...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
I think this is always one of those ideas that sound way coo...
Lil Dirte
  11/10/17
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alzabo
  11/10/17
If you have money it's 180.
Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle
  11/10/17
I've got the money to buy it. I don't have the money, time, ...
Brumus
  11/10/17
It just needs to be done the right way once, but unfortunate...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
Then don't buy. But it always makes me sad when people tear ...
Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle
  11/10/17
you have to budget it to be done once, before you move in. i...
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
old houses are 180, but you have to be sure you do your dili...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
Get ready to pay 150k to deal with lead paint, asbestos, bla...
Frank Lloyd Wrong
  11/10/17
DESCRIBE you're experience buying in Nob Hill
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
Unless you are competent to do 'minor wiring' (short of serv...
Dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame
  11/10/17
AND THE TIME and spousal support to spend your weekends doin...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
...
alzabo
  11/10/17
How hard is it to learn?
Brumus
  11/10/17
You cant do any wiring short of changing a light bulb or plu...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
  11/10/17
lol ok super faggot edit: and most JX allow a homeowner t...
Dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame
  11/10/17
I own a house that is about 130 years old. It can be a real...
Nicholas Van Orton
  11/10/17
agree with all the advice ITT but my prewar house is 1800000...
nude bowlcut autist
  11/10/17
Describe its 180 attributes. How much did you spend fixing i...
Brumus
  11/10/17
Probably spent $150-200k but it's looking like a good invest...
nude bowlcut autist
  11/10/17
180 tl;dr of this thread
a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP
  11/10/17
If it's $150k to get it on par with a house built in 1975--i...
Brumus
  11/10/17
Find someone trustworthy (friends, family, neighbors, Angie'...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
Also, another note (but it's fresh for me and wasn't obvious...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
this is 100% CR very good observation
nude bowlcut autist
  11/10/17
you live in a very very specific area though. i have frie...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
"If it's $150k to get it on par with a house built in 1...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
Tax Amount: $33,042 lololol. You are going to get megafu...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
ppl always say stuff was "made better back then". ...
beef brisket
  11/10/17
True, but here we're only looking at houses that are still s...
Brumus
  11/10/17
tcr.
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
not every old house is better, but if you find one with good...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
Also, if you see one that is standing 100+ years later witho...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
Westchester is gonna have to get leaner and meaner w/r/t tax...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
CR for a big reason we're moving out of the city.
Brumus
  11/10/17
"Westchester is gonna have to get leaner and meaner w/r...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
You don't understand how towns and school districts in Westc...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
No, I get it. But they could have cut that even without the...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
I bought a 40 year old house that was in rough shape. I went...
Diane Rehm talking dirty
  11/10/17
when we say older home we're not talking 70s build.
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
Can you give a market est. of the amount of work done to dat...
gunt
  11/10/17
Very cool and great points. Thinking of that bloodacre th...
Jim_Kelly
  11/10/17
We did some of this ourselves (on a much older but pretty sm...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
CR also would be extremely difficult if you can't work from ...
nude bowlcut autist
  11/10/17
I'd argue that you might actually be spending more doing it ...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
Counterpoint: potential for secret passages and buried treas...
Bird Stomper
  11/10/17
...
Brumus
  11/10/17
By treasure do you mean murdered bodies?
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
yeah
Bird Stomper
  11/10/17
(rudolph)
Sotomayor McCheese
  11/11/17
i found 200 first edition classic rock records in my attic t...
nude bowlcut autist
  11/10/17
U definitely need to cut corners on reno. My house is old a...
I want to be greedy for the United States.
  11/10/17
Find workmen that know you're on a budget and won't play tho...
The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart
  11/10/17
We live in a house built in the 1920s which has been reasona...
nutella
  11/10/17
>> When we bought, it had a new roof, relatively new h...
Mark Ironside
  11/10/17
that first linked house is uuunnngghhhhhhhhhhh love it.
michael CharlesXIIikoff
  11/10/17
LOL man, the "Mediterranean Colonial" is horrid. F...
Fat Plodding Law Beaver
  11/10/17
Glad I live in Texas where I can buy a brand new house for $...
fatfaggots.com
  11/10/17
Even in Texas you have to live in the middle of nowhere to g...
Fat Plodding Law Beaver
  11/10/17
Nah, you have to live in the burbs but not middle of nowhere...
Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster
  11/10/17
lol no. plenty of decent burbs around Dallas and Houston whe...
fatfaggots.com
  11/11/17
Show me what you get around Dallas/Fort Worth/Austin that is...
Fat Plodding Law Beaver
  11/12/17
I bought and restored a 100-plus year old house in my early ...
Unemployed astronaut considering suicide
  11/10/17


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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:35 PM
Author: Brumus

Going to to buy a house in the burbs for babydood and puppydood. Some of the ones my wife and I like the best are 100+ years old. Credited to cop, or limit ourselves to post-WW2 houses only? Examples:

https://www.redfin.com/NY/Chappaqua/47-Crest-Rd-10514/home/20086056

https://www.redfin.com/NJ/Summit/5-Madison-Ave-07901/home/38088389

https://www.redfin.com/NJ/Chatham/77-Hillside-Ave-07928/home/37138507

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654802)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:36 PM
Author: Texas Lawmaker

depends on how well the electric and plumbing are holding up and when they were first installed. might also have insulation issues

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654815)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:39 PM
Author: Seamen on Broadway (playing with gay dog boners since 2013)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654835)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Brumus

Will home inspector be able to figure that out, or do I have to just wait and pray?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654849)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: Texas Lawmaker

kind of both. what was posted downthread, depends on how 180 your inspector is and if he catches everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654857)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

I would absolutely not bet on that happening either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654915)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle

yeah you just have to assume shit's going to break and cost a lot of money no matter what. it's like owning a classic car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654969)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:01 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

"depends on how 180 your inspector is and if he catches everything."

Regular pre-purchase home inspectors are complete losers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655646)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Seamen on Broadway (playing with gay dog boners since 2013)

wow, one of those is way better than the other two

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654847)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:39 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

I bought a 101 year old house and it always costs way more than you think it will. I actually love my house but it's been a huge pain in the ass at times

there's probably asbestos in the walls or around HVAC vents (I discovered it doing a kitchen gutjob and had to spend $2,500 just to remove it then my HVAC bill went up to $8000 from $800 budgeted).

the foundation is probably fucked in one way or another

the insulation might be sub-par

the plumbing and electrical are always questionable too

if it was renovated recently, I can almost guarantee you it was done half-assed unless it was done by someone who intended to live there long term.

make sure you get an absolutely 180 home inspector because mine missed several thousand dollars in necessary repairs that hit me a few months after I closed on the house. it was 120 as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654839)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:42 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

>>if it was renovated recently, I can almost guarantee you it was done half-assed unless it was done by someone who intended to live there long term.

>>make sure you get an absolutely 180 home inspector because mine missed several thousand dollars in necessary repairs that hit me a few months after I closed on the house. it was 120 as fuck

mfcr, and I'd walk through with a contractor too / instead of some $295 check-the-box home inspector if you can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654869)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:44 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

180 idea. I'd have both go through at the same time so they can argue with each other.

going through a $62,000 total kitchen gut job and rebuild this past summer made me learn one rule:

if you want to renovate an old ass house and make money on a flip, you have to cut every corner imaginable because it's a fucking money pit. I did my kitchen properly, it's amazing, and a show piece, but I will not make $62,000 in equity out of it for years to come, if ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654885)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

>> if you want to renovate an old ass house and make money on a flip, you have to cut every corner imaginable <<

sadly, this is why there is so much shitty housing stock nowadays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654916)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: Brumus

On balance, are you glad you bought the old house? How much extra to budget for repairs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654913)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

yes, but I make a fuckload of money right now in a low COL area so I didn't really worry about lighting it on fire and throwing it off a bridge. my mortgage, taxes, and insurance come out to like $1400 per month lol

I would budget 10-20% of the home value in cash if the house is really old. if it's been recently worked on or a really overpriced area you can adjust accordingly, but I had to sink $25,000 into this house just to get it up and running

then $62,000 for the kitchen I wanted (including total demo to the studs, new HVAC, asbestos removal, foundation bracing, etc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654958)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Cold, drafty, small closets, scary basements, 250 feet of pipe between you and the hot water heater so it takes forever to heat up and you perpetually wash your hands in cold water in your "$1.3 million" house, everything squeaks, everything is made of wood and rots and needs to be painted, etc. Most can be fixed with $$$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654850)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle

Yeah that's awesome. You spend 13 hours a day in a totally fake corporate office environment already. Why make your house some engineered POS?

If it gets drafty in the winter, light a fire in your big ass fireplace and pour some Scotch.

Large closets and open floorplans are for women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654876)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:44 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

tbf my house is a severely overpriced SV POS and I'm pretty annoyed by all of the shitty parts. I have romantic ideas about old houses but at this point I just want shit to make sense and work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654886)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:45 PM
Author: Brumus

Gotta love all of the CHARACTER in an old house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654891)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle

yeah understandable if you're a fag who needs fiber optics run everywhere and straight walls lmao what fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654954)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: beef brisket

large closets are 180 simply because it lets you be disorganized as fuck and it doesn't make a difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655532)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Women's | Obscene | Spending on Clothing (that they don't wear)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655549)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: beef brisket

*makes predictable azngirl joke*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655615)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

It's really all of them.

Fortunately my wife is more JCrew-level than typical CA-AZNgirl-type label-whoring. I can't imagine my reaction if she were to spend $900 on a pair of shoes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655631)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:05 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

there's a difference between girls who spend money to look hot vs girls who spend money on labels though.

i don't mind if jewess spends on looking hot, and i actually encourage it.

i wouldn't want her just spending for labels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655690)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Yeah, all fair. I'm more of a tshirt and jeans guy w/r/t girls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655711)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

i've come to hate jeans on girls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655721)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:09 PM
Author: cool kids slurping a milkshake, 2 straws

MFCR. ljl @ all the heebs and gooks itt TERRIFIED of having to splice a wire and cap a pipe here and there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655730)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:26 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

Oh no, not WOOD! Can I get something made of essentially plastic or other artificial shit material whose minimal value will be visible in just a few years??? Nonsense like this is why I'd rather have an old house than one built in the 70s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655876)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:39 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

As everyone here has said, it's fine if you're willing to spend $$$ on it. If you just want to have something that you don't have to think about for 20 years, then there are better options. I like the idea of an old house, but it's been a pain in the ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656029)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Lil Dirte (dirte)

I think this is always one of those ideas that sound way cooler in theory than in reality.

I hate dealing with shit in a 10 year old house... Can't imagine all the fucked up shit in an old house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654853)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: alzabo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654976)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle

If you have money it's 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654856)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: Brumus

I've got the money to buy it. I don't have the money, time, or inclination to replace one of the plumbing, insulation, foundation, or wiring every year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654931)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

It just needs to be done the right way once, but unfortunately that's expensive and you should throw away any budgeting ideas from HGTV -- they're off by 3-5x from IRL in any sort of prosperous part of the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654948)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a Hobby she is a Lifestyle

Then don't buy. But it always makes me sad when people tear down nice old houses and spend as much building a new one as they would have fixing things up perfectly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654959)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

you have to budget it to be done once, before you move in. if it's done right, you'll be good for years thereafter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654981)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

old houses are 180, but you have to be sure you do your diligence and figure out all the issues prior to buying.

if you can do that, then, assuming your budget is robust enough, you will get a home for the price that often has way better detail and materials than anything you could build new.

westchester has some fantastic older homes. it's just too bad the taxes are so high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654943)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:54 PM
Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong

Get ready to pay 150k to deal with lead paint, asbestos, black mold, cracked foundation, hazardous wiring, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654986)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:55 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

DESCRIBE you're experience buying in Nob Hill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34654995)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:56 PM
Author: Dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame

Unless you are competent to do 'minor wiring' (short of service panels) and plumbing, don't do it. based on the above you do not have a skill set suitable for this house.

DO NOT DO IT

-- Someone who owned a nice 60 year old house (and NOW has those skills).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655000)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

AND THE TIME and spousal support to spend your weekends doing this shit. With a kid? Lol, forget it.

If your or her dad happens to be a retired electrician and lives down the road, then go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655025)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: alzabo



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Brumus

How hard is it to learn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655442)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 5:35 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


You cant do any wiring short of changing a light bulb or plumbing without being a licensed contractor and pulling permits. Otherwise when you sell your house youll be paying massive fines, ripping up walls/ceilings, and possibly doing jail time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656889)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:21 PM
Author: Dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame

lol ok super faggot

edit: and most JX allow a homeowner to do his own work without a license, permit, eh, whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34658244)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:01 PM
Author: Nicholas Van Orton

I own a house that is about 130 years old. It can be a real pain in the ass. Based on my experience and the experience of others I know, you can be relatively sure that you will get surprised with an expensive issue within six months of closing, particluarly if the house has been flipped or if the previous owner tried to do a lot of work on the place on their own. Make sure you get a good inspector and follow the suggestion above about having a contractor look at the place, too.

That said, there are some great older homes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655068)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: nude bowlcut autist

agree with all the advice ITT but my prewar house is 1800000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655384)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Brumus

Describe its 180 attributes. How much did you spend fixing it up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655404)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: nude bowlcut autist

Probably spent $150-200k but it's looking like a good investment. Tons of space, high ceilings and much better vibes than some postwar shitbox house. Also great that sound doesn't travel through lathe/plaster walls the way it does with sheetrock in new construction.

If you don't have experience with construction and contractors you should consider it carefully and/or pepper angus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655476)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: a couple songs worth of nipple play in VIP

180 tl;dr of this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655488)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: Brumus

If it's $150k to get it on par with a house built in 1975--in terms of problems with electric, plumbing, foundation--before we move in, then it seems very CR. Some of these old houses we're looking at are $200k or more cheaper than similarly sized and located, but much plainer looking, houses from 1975. I just don't want a $15k surprise and half the house unusable for 6 weeks every year.

I have no personal experience with contractors. Only lived in rentals and dorms since I was 18. CR way to come up to speed? My parents and in-laws have updated kitchens, bathrooms, HVAC over the years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655546)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Find someone trustworthy (friends, family, neighbors, Angie's List / Yelp, general reputation) and prepare to pay out the ass. Everything costs more than they say, btw. 20-25% is a good guess. Also, note that they work backwards from the quote that they give you; it's not like how lawyers work where it's actually an estimate and if it ends up taking less time we bill less -- if a contractor tells you $100K, expect to pay $125K. There is ZERO chance that it comes in for $90K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655577)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Also, another note (but it's fresh for me and wasn't obvious before getting in deep): It can be hard to find someone to do smaller projects in good areas. Smaller is everything from replacing one sliding door that is a POS to a two-room reno that's "only" $150K if the reputable contractors in your town are all busy with whole-house renos for deep-pocketed people. It's insane, but I have difficulty getting people to work on my house on smaller projects -- they don't want to take the money because there are tear-downs, etc. on almost every street.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655611)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: nude bowlcut autist

this is 100% CR very good observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655666)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:13 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

you live in a very very specific area though.

i have friends in very wealthy east coast suburbs and its not nearly that bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655759)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

"If it's $150k to get it on par with a house built in 1975--in terms of problems with electric, plumbing, foundation"

That isn't really how it works. For example, if you're updating electric then you're updating it to 2017 standards, so it will be better than what a house built in 1975 has. For example, for my house the electric co had to run a completely new line, we put in a 200 amp breaker, etc. A house built in 1975 had like 100 amp tops.

OTOH, you may have stuff there that will be over 100 years old. For example, many of our walls are still lath and plaster instead of drywall. That has pros and cons itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655624)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

Tax Amount: $33,042

lololol. You are going to get megafucked by the new tax plan. NYS income tax + those prop taxes + limited mortgage deduction.

The house itself looks nice, my house is a 19th-century house and tbh, they were built way better back then. Yes, stuff will be old and need to be replaced but you can factor that into the price during haggling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655547)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:56 PM
Author: beef brisket

ppl always say stuff was "made better back then". true to an extent but everyone's basis for comparison is only houses that are still standing today. most old shithouses burned or were torn down long ago.

I rented a 1920's house once and it was a piece of shit that should have been torn down decades ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655590)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Brumus

True, but here we're only looking at houses that are still standing, not ones that blew down in 1933.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655623)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

tcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655638)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

not every old house is better, but if you find one with good materials and detail you are almost certainly getting it at a substantial discount vs what it would cost to build today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655630)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

Also, if you see one that is standing 100+ years later without serious structural damage then it is a good house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655664)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

Westchester is gonna have to get leaner and meaner w/r/t taxes.

But consider that a lot of that cash is for schooling, and when you have multiple kids the $33k a year is a bargain compared to what you'd pay for private school in New York City -- and those tuition payments surely don't get deducted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655620)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: Brumus

CR for a big reason we're moving out of the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655633)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

"Westchester is gonna have to get leaner and meaner w/r/t taxes."

I hear this a lot but it won't actually work this way. Cities have their budgets and they're not really going to cut them, and if they do it'll be by peanuts. There is zero chance you won't feel massive pain from the tax bill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655657)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:04 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

You don't understand how towns and school districts in Westchester work. There is a ton of overlap and waste. It's not the same as other areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655669)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:06 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

No, I get it. But they could have cut that even without the tax changes. They didn't and you'll see that they won't now either. Remember that their interests are not your interests.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655699)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (/dev/null)

I bought a 40 year old house that was in rough shape. I went a different direction and did an extensive gut / repair job by myself (Wife helped). I have been working with tools my whole life, am very handy/mechanically inclined, and had always wanted to do something like this. Also I already had a ton of tools. It’s been 7 months of nonstop work and living in a slowly moving construction zone. We’ve spent relatively little (under 20k) but it’s consumed every spare night, weekend, and the occasional work from home day. The end result is looking very good at this point. Ljl at trying this with a kid, without a supportive wife, or if you didn’t already know how to do most of the work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655634)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

when we say older home we're not talking 70s build.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655658)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: gunt

Can you give a market est. of the amount of work done to date?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655661)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:04 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

Very cool and great points.

Thinking of that bloodacre thread where that walkway took him a few months' of spare time, lord knows how much prodding from his wife about when it was going to be done, all those trips to Home Depot, being sore the next day, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655678)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:05 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

We did some of this ourselves (on a much older but pretty small house) and fundamentally agree. And we cut corners by a) hiring people for anything hard, and b) using things like click-lock hardwood for flooring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655686)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:06 PM
Author: nude bowlcut autist

CR also would be extremely difficult if you can't work from home easily. You also might need to up your addy dose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655700)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:06 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

I'd argue that you might actually be spending more doing it this way as opposed to just hiring someone. Your time at the margins is pretty expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655703)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:12 PM
Author: Bird Stomper

Counterpoint: potential for secret passages and buried treasure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655747)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:40 PM
Author: Brumus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656030)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:40 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

By treasure do you mean murdered bodies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656041)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:20 PM
Author: Bird Stomper

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34658232)



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Date: November 11th, 2017 1:09 AM
Author: Sotomayor McCheese

(rudolph)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34660086)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:51 PM
Author: nude bowlcut autist

i found 200 first edition classic rock records in my attic they are mint condition woooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656211)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: I want to be greedy for the United States.

U definitely need to cut corners on reno. My house is old as fuck and basically any tradesman I bring in will quote me thousands in suggested repairs (not even upgrades). They're not trying to scam they just have an idea of how things should be done, so if the old owner fixed some roofing issue with a bunch of cement they want you to rip it out and put down copper flashing even if it's holding up. One good thing with old houses is that even if something was done unconventionally, you know it's been working for 50 years so why mess with it. Get multiple inspectors. You should ask to see utility bills. I got sticker shock my first winter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655812)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 4:28 PM
Author: The Meanest Lean in Vocal Fry Monster Fart

Find workmen that know you're on a budget and won't play those games. Get multiple bids on any extensive work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34655905)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 5:12 PM
Author: nutella

We live in a house built in the 1920s which has been reasonably well maintained. When we bought, it had a new roof, relatively new hvac, 10 year old water heater, “new” electrical, very minor foundation issues. Within 3 months, the outside hvac unit broke, water heater broke and contractor we hired found massive hole and leak in the roof of the addition that was added on in the 1960s.

We spent about $120k re-doing all the plumbing, windows, gut kitchen and baths and floors etc. the “new” electrical had some dangerous issues that presented a fire hazard so we replaced all that as well. All the pipes were galvanized which we knew. We replaced with all copper pipes and redid all drains to where it connects to the city sewer line. Water pressure is now great. We haven’t re-done the insulation in the attic yet, but it’s SoCal so not as critical. Windows are also very expensive if you want nice non-vinyl wood/fiberglass frames. These old houses generally have really creaky old windows with wooden frames but it looks like shit if you replace them with cheap jelwen vinyl windows from Home Depot or whatever.

I only have a 1600 square foot house. Expect to pay more for a huge home. I like the details of the house that the cookie cutter houses don’t have like a curved ceiling and arched doorways. We are planning on staying here for at least 10 years so it was worth it to us to spend that sort of money to upgrade everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656618)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

>> When we bought, it had a new roof, relatively new hvac, 10 year old water heater, “new” electrical, very minor foundation issues. Within 3 months, the outside hvac unit broke, water heater broke and contractor we hired found massive hole and leak in the roof of the addition that was added on in the 1960s. <<

Note that all that stuff is either modern, or post-war.

meanwhile many 1920s homes have boilers original to the house that still work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656666)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: michael CharlesXIIikoff

that first linked house is uuunnngghhhhhhhhhhh love it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34656988)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: Fat Plodding Law Beaver (Veteran of the Psychic Wars)

LOL man, the "Mediterranean Colonial" is horrid. First two are pretty bad overall. Third one is better but has a gaudy interior, didn't read the thread so I don't know if you have money to seriously renovate some of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34657336)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:14 PM
Author: fatfaggots.com

Glad I live in Texas where I can buy a brand new house for $250,000 and not worry about shit. This is insanity. These houses and landscaping look beautiful but I bet major problems lurk underneath. Tread carefully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34658191)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:18 PM
Author: Fat Plodding Law Beaver (Veteran of the Psychic Wars)

Even in Texas you have to live in the middle of nowhere to get something truly nice for 250K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34658222)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster (Tax survivor)

Nah, you have to live in the burbs but not middle of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34658256)



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Date: November 11th, 2017 1:04 AM
Author: fatfaggots.com

lol no. plenty of decent burbs around Dallas and Houston where you can something in that range. i'd know. i live in a home i got built new. i live in a burb that is 30 miles from one of those cities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34660072)



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Date: November 12th, 2017 5:33 PM
Author: Fat Plodding Law Beaver (Veteran of the Psychic Wars)

Show me what you get around Dallas/Fort Worth/Austin that is less than half hour from the city and $250K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34669723)



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Date: November 10th, 2017 8:19 PM
Author: Unemployed astronaut considering suicide

I bought and restored a 100-plus year old house in my early twenties. It was hell on earth but I loved it too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792404&forum_id=2#34658229)