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People who don't see the root of their deficiencies

People who are "bad test takers" or "bad conv...
Mewling Laser Beams
  11/17/17
Yep, one of the real benefits of being smart is that you can...
abnormal sex offender
  11/17/17
You CAN but it the uncovering process is a traumatic experie...
emerald orchestra pit gay wizard
  11/17/17
Cr
Twinkling kitchen french chef
  11/17/17
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vibrant sweet tailpipe
  11/17/17
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Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center
  11/17/17
smart people are good at realizing things and describing the...
concupiscible judgmental wagecucks selfie
  11/17/17
It's really questionable whether this is a benefit. Not sma...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
(guy who doesn't have the balls to face his own fears, insec...
Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center
  11/17/17
You got me. Unlike all the other megapoasters on an obscure...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
Only on xo do you get savaged for admitting that you haven’t...
Twinkling kitchen french chef
  11/17/17
...
Razzle-dazzle splenetic hairy legs library
  11/17/17
(guy who also doesn't have the balls to face his limitation...
cerebral crawly bbw
  11/17/17
It was a joke btw.
abnormal sex offender
  11/17/17
Well, great, now we can identify another way I'm defective F...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
...
emerald orchestra pit gay wizard
  11/17/17
Happy Friday
abnormal sex offender
  11/17/17
The only reason the joke is funny is because of the grain of...
cerebral crawly bbw
  11/17/17
it's not even a joke though, being aware of your own limitat...
Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center
  11/17/17
Yeah, this is true. I like to have on hand people, pills, or...
abnormal sex offender
  11/17/17
I mean, is it? If I'm falling off the side of the Empire S...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
"Is it really better to be aware of that or would it be...
Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center
  11/17/17
Awareness of limitations is not the same thing as acceptance...
cerebral crawly bbw
  11/17/17
if youre an intellectually curious person and smart enough t...
vibrant sweet tailpipe
  11/17/17
...
lascivious gold son of senegal
  11/17/17
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Erotic Mauve Native Toaster
  11/17/17
Mine is alcoholism and egocentrism.
insecure electric trust fund
  11/17/17
Goes deeper on the former for sure, maybe letter ttoo
Twinkling kitchen french chef
  11/17/17
I think even dumb people understand genetics on a rudimentar...
aromatic obsidian rigor
  11/17/17
Wrong. They can't make the connection between cause and effe...
Mewling Laser Beams
  11/17/17
...
Twinkling kitchen french chef
  11/17/17
"Bad test taking" really is mostly flame, particul...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
I feel that I am a "good test taker" in the sense ...
Sepia location
  11/17/17
There is a tiny amount of this, but it only helps because yo...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
I agree that "test taking skills" matter at the ma...
Sepia location
  11/17/17
Sure, I don't think we disagree then. The thing is, "o...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
same
concupiscible judgmental wagecucks selfie
  11/17/17
if that's the case, which I'm doubting from the reasoning di...
Mewling Laser Beams
  11/17/17
Yeah exactly. I had so much trouble trying to teach the lsat...
Cocky digit ratio dingle berry
  11/17/17
your first point shows that you didn't have a true mastery o...
Mewling Laser Beams
  11/17/17
funny that we're all talking about shit like test taking as ...
narrow-minded partner keepsake machete
  11/17/17
Woah there, this is still primarily a law school admissions ...
sinister kitty cat
  11/17/17
sometimes i forget that's what it's all about, true
narrow-minded partner keepsake machete
  11/17/17
You stopped?
maroon heady stead becky
  11/17/17
What about people who think they’re miserably unhappy becaus...
multi-colored nursing home antidepressant drug
  11/17/17
Don’t be mean to lawman8
gaped macaca
  11/17/17
I really like it here
Flatulent histrionic alpha
  11/17/17
"not photogenic"
mind-boggling wrinkle
  11/17/17


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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:08 AM
Author: Mewling Laser Beams

People who are "bad test takers" or "bad conversationalists" but don't realize that these things are results of them being retarded dullards. Hate these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708297)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:09 AM
Author: abnormal sex offender

Yep, one of the real benefits of being smart is that you can usually figure out exactly why you're defective.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708301)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:11 AM
Author: emerald orchestra pit gay wizard

You CAN but it the uncovering process is a traumatic experience so many just let do and watch their lives pass before their eyes as though it were a movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708318)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: Twinkling kitchen french chef

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708825)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: vibrant sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710747)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708771)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: concupiscible judgmental wagecucks selfie

smart people are good at realizing things and describing them precisely. This doesn't mean they're good at addressing things, and often leads to rationalization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708789)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

It's really questionable whether this is a benefit. Not smart enough to be a legit genius, but smart enough to be aware of your various defects, and feeling like a fraud when proles think you're "omg so smart!" is probably a less comfortable mindset to just be, you know, dumb and not think about things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708809)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center

(guy who doesn't have the balls to face his own fears, insecurities, and imperfections, and enjoy the nietzschean struggle to overcome them)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708824)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:21 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

You got me. Unlike all the other megapoasters on an obscure race realist chatblog, I'm not a 6'4" Übermensch who played college football before serving six years in the military.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708846)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:21 AM
Author: Twinkling kitchen french chef

Only on xo do you get savaged for admitting that you haven’t completely self-actualized

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708856)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle splenetic hairy legs library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709518)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: cerebral crawly bbw

(guy who also doesn't have the balls to face his limitations because he turns his purported introspection into a striverish keeping up with the Jones contest and thinks he's engaged in a Nietzschean struggle to overcome something when really he's just being a jealous fag)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709241)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:26 AM
Author: abnormal sex offender

It was a joke btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708889)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

Well, great, now we can identify another way I'm defective FMA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708942)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: emerald orchestra pit gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708944)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: abnormal sex offender

Happy Friday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709180)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: cerebral crawly bbw

The only reason the joke is funny is because of the grain of truth that it is annoying, and can be maddening, but also useful to be keenly aware of one's limitations. But in reality that deeper knowledge of one's limitations for high IQs generally comes from being put in a hive with other high achievers, so it's all ultimately just jealousy. Being a 140 IQ kid in a school full of 90 IQ kids usually results in pure meltdown craziness, because it's like being in solitary for your brain. This is the best argument against Big State U for legit 150+ IQ people, but it's an argument for Big State U for 130ish IQs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709268)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center

it's not even a joke though, being aware of your own limitations is just a useful and desirable thing full stop. if this kind of stuff bothers you (in the general, not you specifically) then you need to just stop being a pussy.

smart people are always joking about how we would be happier as clueless dummies, but in reality, we would never trade places with some prole dullard - even if it did mean a guarantee of increased happiness.

seeing the world for what it is will always be a blessing, even if it's painful sometimes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709374)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: abnormal sex offender

Yeah, this is true. I like to have on hand people, pills, or tech to balance out my suboptimal tendencies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709392)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

I mean, is it? If I'm falling off the side of the Empire State Building but completely oblivious to my fate, then I can enjoy the ride and the wind in my hair for a few seconds. If I know I'm about to go splat, I'll be terrified and miserable. You might as well be oblivious since there's nothing you can do.

An absurd example, sure. But suppose you're a middling professional living in a declining empire and completely powerless to meaningfully interact with any of the myriad existential threats facing the civilized world and, perhaps, the species as a whole. Because that's the modal 'successful' XO poaster. Is it really better to be aware of that or would it better if it was possible to not think and just enjoy the ride?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709553)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Bull Headed 180 Party Of The First Part Center

"Is it really better to be aware of that or would it better if it was possible to not think and just enjoy the ride?"

yes, yes it is. once you grow some balls, you're able to "enjoy the ride" just as much as the clueless proles. someone who is genuinely intelligent is able to be disciplined enough to avoid being "terrified and miserable" about the world around them.

believe it or not, proles are constantly worried about shit that they don't understand. it's not easy for them, either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710719)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:03 PM
Author: cerebral crawly bbw

Awareness of limitations is not the same thing as acceptance and calm, focused energy toward addressing one's limitations. Awareness is only desirable if you have the capacity to take the information in and make use of it in a productive way that benefits you. Realizing you suck in certain ways and having that knowledge eat at you and make you even worse is not a better outcome than just assuming you're better than you actually are. In fact, many of the most successful, highest achieving people in the world are the most convincing examples of the benefits of thinking too highly of yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709593)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:23 PM
Author: vibrant sweet tailpipe

if youre an intellectually curious person and smart enough to address your issues and not let ego take over - you will be honest with yourself, address your issues, and live a better life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710759)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:23 AM
Author: lascivious gold son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708866)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: Erotic Mauve Native Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710748)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:12 AM
Author: insecure electric trust fund

Mine is alcoholism and egocentrism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708323)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:19 AM
Author: Twinkling kitchen french chef

Goes deeper on the former for sure, maybe letter ttoo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708831)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: aromatic obsidian rigor

I think even dumb people understand genetics on a rudimentary level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708783)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: Mewling Laser Beams

Wrong. They can't make the connection between cause and effect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708823)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:19 AM
Author: Twinkling kitchen french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708833)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:23 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

"Bad test taking" really is mostly flame, particularly for standardized multiple choice testing. The right answer is given to you and you either have the substantive/procedural knowledge to identify it or not. Beyond a modicum of test taking skills that can be learned in an afternoon, you're not "bad at test taking," the test just accurately determined your aptitude at whatever it was testing.

Shit, we should spread this flame to other topics. "Oh, no, I don't have HIV. The test just says I do because I'm bad at tests."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708868)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:25 AM
Author: Sepia location

I feel that I am a "good test taker" in the sense that I can use "test taking skills" to deduce the correct answer despite the fact that I lack actual knowledge of the correct answer.

It seems to me that if I can be a good test taker, somebody else can be a bad test taker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708882)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

There is a tiny amount of this, but it only helps because you have at least some background knowledge and these "test taking skills" are simple enough that they can be learned pretty quickly. If you went into the MCATs (the medical school test which unlike the LSAT's tests substantive knowledge) blind without the substantive knowledge, your good test-taking skills wouldn't do shit. Similarly, if you went into MCAT with perfect medical knowledge and no test taking skills, you'd get a perfect score. So pretending for a moment that the MCAT is scored on the LSAT scale, test taking skills might be the difference between a 170 and a 175 but they don't explain why somebody got a 135.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708906)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: Sepia location

I agree that "test taking skills" matter at the margins, but marginal differences between test scores are very meaningful! the difference between a 175 and a 170 on the LSAT is substantial and life-changing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708920)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:33 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

Sure, I don't think we disagree then. The thing is, "oh I'm bad at test taking" is usually used by people who got a 145 but are sure they "deserve" a 170. This was super common in my high school for people who bombed the SAT and (under the scale that was used at the time) was supposed to explain their 400 point underperformance LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708939)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:29 AM
Author: concupiscible judgmental wagecucks selfie

same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34708913)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: Mewling Laser Beams

if that's the case, which I'm doubting from the reasoning displayed in your poast, it's because of innate intelligence not some extrinsic skill you learned completely detached from your intelligence.

your proposed bad test taker would be someone who has the knowledge to answer the question but somehow second guesses themselves or something to manage to get the answer wrong. the proposition that this is caused by some unfamiliarity with tests rather than a lack of intelligence is, in my view, specious at best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710754)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: Cocky digit ratio dingle berry

Yeah exactly. I had so much trouble trying to teach the lsat because so much of my process was intuitive and hard to explain (eg, picking answers because I see the other options are wrong vs waiting until I know why a given choice is correct).

Also it seems possible that some people are smart but have terrible poise crack under time pressure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710772)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 3:05 PM
Author: Mewling Laser Beams

your first point shows that you didn't have a true mastery of the subject matter. being able to cogently explain why something is correct takes more intellectual hp than merely figuring out that one answer is better than the others.

the latter point is nonsensical: the time pressure is a primary diagnostic of the test since the ability to figure things out quickly is indicative of higher intelligence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34711078)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:50 AM
Author: narrow-minded partner keepsake machete

funny that we're all talking about shit like test taking as 30 year olds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709488)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: sinister kitty cat

Woah there, this is still primarily a law school admissions boart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709557)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: narrow-minded partner keepsake machete

sometimes i forget that's what it's all about, true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709587)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:20 PM
Author: maroon heady stead becky

You stopped?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710737)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 12:16 PM
Author: multi-colored nursing home antidepressant drug

What about people who think they’re miserably unhappy because they didn’t meet their wife at age 13

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34709655)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:26 PM
Author: gaped macaca

Don’t be mean to lawman8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710781)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:27 PM
Author: Flatulent histrionic alpha

I really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34710796)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:51 PM
Author: mind-boggling wrinkle

"not photogenic"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800400&forum_id=2#34714790)