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The U.S. spends nearly 1/5 of its GDP on health care. We're fucking retards.
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:39 AM Author: autistic property That's around 50% more than Switzerland, the second highest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34714969) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:41 AM Author: exhilarant coldplay fan it really is retarded. every other country has figured it out, but we can't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34714977) |
Date: November 18th, 2017 12:46 AM Author: beady-eyed boltzmann Thanks fats, browns and kikes! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34714999) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:50 AM Author: exhilarant coldplay fan fats are primarily a result of the sugar lobby and our fucked up food industry
not sure about "browns" but literally every other western country has significant minority populations of diverse genetic backgrounds and doesn't have a problem
kikes, well, i'm not racist, so i'm going to choose to interpret your slur as an insult against those who seek profit at the expense of all else and especially with disregard of the greater good. so that part of your comment is right. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:24 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting "not sure about "browns" but literally every other western country has significant minority populations of diverse genetic backgrounds and doesn't have a problem"
i don't think that's true. And they definitely don't have the amount African Americans we do. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: autistic property I've never seen anything showing that blacks have higher utilization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715143) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting Their obesity rate is sky high. They have to be expensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715148) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:52 AM Author: Duck-like Rehab lots of shit you can blame on those groups, but not this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715020) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:58 AM Author: autistic property Our prices are higher, not just usage. (Maybe that's last part of your comment.)
Edit: And we don't have a high number of visits.
"With only four per year, Americans also had fewer physician visits than the OECD median (6.5 visits). In contrast, the average Canadian had 7.7 physician visits and the average Japanese resident had 12.9 visits in 2012."
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/oct/us-health-care-from-a-global-perspective |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: White International Law Enforcement Agency House What do people do with half a dozen doctor visits a year? I don't have half a dozen visits in my adult life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34717651) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:29 PM Author: Cheese-eating feces dilemma 4 per year? who the fuck is going to the doctor that often? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34720644) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:00 AM Author: Misunderstood ocher national BigPharma /thread |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:01 AM Author: autistic property And medical imaging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715054) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:18 AM Author: autistic property Medical devices, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715094) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:25 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting 100% CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715129) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:27 AM Author: apoplectic azure son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715135) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:29 AM Author: Chest-beating Meetinghouse Keepsake Machete drugs are only ~10% of health care costs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34716545) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:37 PM Author: Deranged Black Woman Less than 1% of health-care expenditures are on pharmaceuticals but whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34717531) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:00 AM Author: fluffy base For the last time: no you can not have socialized healthcare. Stop trolling for free stuff for mexicans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715051) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:01 AM Author: exhilarant coldplay fan of course you can have socialized healthcare. we already have it, but it's only for boomers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715053) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:02 AM Author: fluffy base And giving it to boomers was a mistake. Your plan to correct this is to expand to mexico (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715056) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:05 AM Author: exhilarant coldplay fan explain why it's a mistake, other than it doesn't apply to all of us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715069) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:06 AM Author: fluffy base It drove up costs for the rest of us and is extremely expensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715071) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:17 AM Author: autistic property Not a sufficient explanation when literally every other rich nation figured out how to control costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715090) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:18 AM Author: fluffy base Idk man maybe the us government sucks at running things. Not very good at controlling costs (we are $20TT in debt, remember?) Would you agree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715099) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:20 AM Author: autistic property Sort of, but that's largely because we fucked ourselves with respect to campaign financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715105) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:22 AM Author: fluffy base Pathetic non sequitor. Sorry your ideas suck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715111) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:24 AM Author: autistic property A huge reason the governance sucks is because donations facilitate regulatory capture and lobbying. That's real fucking far from a non sequitur. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715124) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:39 AM Author: fluffy base Ok so deport 30 million Mexicans, fix the little problem of our shitty government and get the national debt under control. Then we can talk healthcare.
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:43 AM Author: autistic property That's about 10% of the US population. Even if we accepted that figure, reducing costs by 10% still wouldn't get us close to peer counties. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715178) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:44 AM Author: fluffy base Why ignore the other two clauses? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715180) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:46 AM Author: autistic property Reducing costs is good for the debt, and your temporal ordering is just nonsense you pulled out of your ass.
Shitty government could be controlled if the public cared enough. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:50 AM Author: fluffy base In reality the US government exists to extract wealth from citizens. I’m not going to sign up to pay substantially more and receive nothing in return. If you are really so interested in the wellbeing of your fellow man, I suggest you donate your own money and time to causes you feel are important. Perhaps get an MD and practice for free. But do it with your money not mine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715192) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:05 AM Author: autistic property You are literally willing to pay more so that others get less.
Pretty hardcore. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:07 AM Author: fluffy base I can’t imagine how stupid you’d have to be to believe that nationalizing healthcare would lower the costs for UMC people. That’s so laughably naive I can’t even engage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715075) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:10 AM Author: exhilarant coldplay fan i just want a regular house, a car, a dog, broadband internet and decent schools for my kids. anything and everything beyond that is unnecessary luxury that SHOULD be heavily taxed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715080) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:13 AM Author: fluffy base stfu commie faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715085) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting Lol so everything above what YOU want needs to be heavily taxed.
Maybe poors think your "regular house" (probably $800,000+) and car (3 series I'm guessing) need to be heavily taxed? |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:42 AM Author: fluffy base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715173) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:14 AM Author: autistic property So it's just narrow self-interest? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715088) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:17 AM Author: fluffy base not wanting to pay my hard earned money and watch my costs skyrocket to buy shit for Mexicans is “narrow self-interest” now? Fuck you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715092) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:18 AM Author: autistic property What if Mexicans got none of it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715100) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:20 AM Author: fluffy base would never happen because of people like you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715103) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:21 AM Author: autistic property Fighting the hypo is a low IQ prole tell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715108) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:22 AM Author: fluffy base Stfu faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715112) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:30 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting If Mexicans (illegal) got none of it then the system would be a lot lower priced and sustainable.
Don't mind giving it to our legal citizens (whatever race they are) as long as we have strict immigration |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:09 AM Author: razzle-dazzle magenta athletic conference all our healthcare system has become is yet another disincentive to work.
why do i want to slave away for $45k at a horrible job, that probably gets by on labeling me part-time while demanding full-time hours, where i can't even afford my crushing student loans, only to also pay exorbitant healthcare premiums (with super-high deductibles) to cover all the people who aren't willing to even try to work? |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:12 AM Author: Dark Fiercely-loyal Stage Most of it on people who are old and dying w/in the year, anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715083) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting CRRR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715144) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:47 PM Author: trip theatre lol no friend, old people hang on quite a while and the last 18 months of their lives consume 90% of their total lifetime healthcare expenditures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34717601) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:21 AM Author: marvelous set If you really want to rage about healthcare, just look up EMTALA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715106) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:22 AM Author: autistic property Other countries provide similar services and still have lower spending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715116) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting How many illegals not contributing anything do they have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715147) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:43 AM Author: marvelous set haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715177) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:28 AM Author: Claret doctorate therapy "Trump's America" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715136) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:38 AM Author: chrome hairy legs Stuff like this outs xo’s anti-illegals-contingent as actually dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715166) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:42 AM Author: fluffy base (Pro Illegal) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715175) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:45 AM Author: hilarious wine casino Explain, I'm curious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715181) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:52 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715198) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:10 AM Author: chrome hairy legs Roy Moore fought hypos and when pushed on his attacking illegals basically fell back on “I guess our government just sucks at running stuff [compared to European countries noted for their public efficiency?]” Lmao |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:12 AM Author: fluffy base yeah man US government is great at controlling costs and handling finances. Lots of evidence of that look at schools, the military etc. Makes sense for me to give them a bigger cut of my check. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715296) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:17 AM Author: chrome hairy legs Another low iq tell. You’re missing the point.
The question ITT isn’t whether the US is great at controlling costs and handling finances. It’s whether the US is better or worse than other western countries at controlling costs and handling finances. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:19 AM Author: fluffy base You’re assuming that the healthcare systems in Europe are all sustainable. I don’t agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715336) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:20 AM Author: chrome hairy legs Link to where I assume that? I think you might struggle with reading comp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715347) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:21 AM Author: fluffy base It doesn’t even matter what these countries are doing if their system isn’t sustainable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715353) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:23 AM Author: chrome hairy legs So you accusing me of assuming European healthcare is sustainable was a problem with your reading comp? Thank you for proving my point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715358) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:26 AM Author: fluffy base W/e man if you want to be a snarky bitch that’s your right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715366) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:29 AM Author: chrome hairy legs I just hope the pumo above asking me to explain is satisfied (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715381) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:24 AM Author: fluffy base Not that I’m advocating the current system either. Nationalization is a step in the wrong direction tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715359) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:46 AM Author: grizzly persian famous landscape painting How so? Or do you just have the typical xo lib snark with no substance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715185) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:07 AM Author: chrome hairy legs Your response to Kirby saying that he doesn’t know if blacks have high utilization was that they’re fat so they must be expensive. Completely missed Kirby's point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34715279) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 9:28 AM Author: Puce exciting stead chad USA spends around 3 trillion on healthcare per year. If you reduce per capital spending to Switzerland level you reduce that amount by 1.5 trillion. That is money being taken from the economy and a lowering of GDP of almost 10 percent.
Healthcare, like education, is a make work industry. That it costs so much is not a reflection on how expensive it is, rather that we are much poorer than we realize. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 9:30 AM Author: Passionate Area Liquid Oxygen Speak for yourself Yankee dog. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34716276) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:06 AM Author: Puce exciting stead chad (guy who drives the cheapest sub compact car he could buy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34716462) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:16 AM Author: Passionate Area Liquid Oxygen Compact. Not sub compact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34716508) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 11:08 AM Author: confused corner "That is money being taken from the economy"
lmao |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 11:12 AM Author: Puce exciting stead chad Cutting back healthcare spending by 50% would endanger millions of administrative, nursing and other middle class jobs, removing one of the last areas of growth in the USA.
It would also very likely bankrupt a large percentage of companies currently in operation. That might be the cr thing to do but it would create a financial panic and stock market crash on the same level of 2008. The powers that be chose not to let the system be destroyed 10 years ago and everything they've done since is to keep that system afloat by issuing as much debt as it takes. Healthcare spending will never go down in our lifetimes without a crash that would be absolutely devastating. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:32 AM Author: Light field circlehead Free healthcare or open borders - libs u pick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34716556) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:51 PM Author: Frisky zippy quadroon spend some time in CA hospitals and "public health" and report back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34717629) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: Razzle karate cop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34717678) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:29 PM Author: Big Point we have a lot of unhealthy people and a lot of regulatory capture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801310&forum_id=2#34720647) |