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taking a risk within the JIRA system

when you're working in a JIRA system, and within a scrum str...
mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
JIRA/scrum/storypoints system encourages developer suicide
frozen market
  11/20/17
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floppy sticky gay wizard
  11/20/17
not developer suicide, just turning into DMV style clerks.
mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
I’m getting an MBA. fuck this shit
frozen market
  11/20/17
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amber office toilet seat
  11/22/17
I always take the second approach because I hate the tedium ...
alcoholic trip shrine
  11/20/17
We have three columns on our kanban board (design, qa, pm) w...
floppy sticky gay wizard
  11/20/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/20/17
Programming has been so commoditized by H1b that it can be l...
frozen market
  11/20/17
It doesn’t have to be like that. You think mark zuckberg use...
mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/20/17
I believe that was before he ruined the industry
frozen market
  11/20/17
not every company does jira.
mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
He lobbied congress to let in more Indians who do tend to us...
frozen market
  11/20/17
You have an axe to grind. The creator of Agile is a white gu...
walnut jew
  11/20/17
actually, it's the contractors and outsourced labor that abu...
mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
bullshit. every project I have been it's white managers that...
walnut jew
  11/20/17
doesn't matter who abuses it.. it is getting abused..
mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
agreed. but the fag brought up h1bs/indians. which are the w...
walnut jew
  11/20/17
They are the reason it is necessary. Obviously.
frozen market
  11/20/17
This kind of micromanagement is much more common in India. T...
frozen market
  11/20/17
Name the turdskin that invented AGILE
walnut jew
  11/20/17
What difference does that make?? White people invent everyth...
frozen market
  11/20/17
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mint temple sex offender
  11/20/17
LOL faggot. Pwned. And whites are using it too. with gusto I...
walnut jew
  11/20/17
What did I say that’s racist?
frozen market
  11/20/17
ljl fuck off fagit. name the turd that invented AGILE. come ...
walnut jew
  11/20/17
If you want to disagree that’s fine. But calling anyone who ...
frozen market
  11/20/17
I called you a racist because you are one. Own it. Pathetic....
walnut jew
  11/20/17
I’m getting an MBA because the earning power is so much high...
frozen market
  11/20/17
sure bud. your "earning power" is on display ITT.
walnut jew
  11/20/17
You asked why. It’s true. FYI, I work in a pretty chill ...
frozen market
  11/20/17
I work in a 70% white environment. The rest are Latinos. The...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
You work in a programming company with 30% Latinos? Lol ok m...
frozen market
  11/22/17
I don't work for a "programming company" you fucki...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/22/17
lol you are hilarious. ive lived and worked in Texas for 5 y...
frozen market
  11/22/17
ok racist
walnut jew
  11/22/17
bro if you despise "racists" so much wtf are you d...
frozen market
  11/22/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/22/17
You are getting pwned at work by women. Both of you are gian...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
lmao pwned by women? In software development? What the fuck ...
frozen market
  11/22/17
look who i replied to, loser
walnut jew
  11/22/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/22/17
female Mexican coders working at Houston insurance companies
frozen market
  11/22/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/22/17
that i am, that i am
walnut jew
  11/22/17
btw, insurance IT sounds TERRIBLE. You're definitely lower o...
frozen market
  11/22/17
Aren't you fleeing IT to do some shit mba? Whatever makes yo...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
I develop software for an actual consumer product, that peo...
frozen market
  11/22/17
With your escapist attitude you will fail at whatever you do...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
most white people think turds are "creepy". I'm an...
frozen market
  11/22/17
rook, i am chirr bro! hahahahahaha
walnut jew
  11/22/17
10 minutes ago you called me a KKK white racist. Now you thi...
frozen market
  11/22/17
I said you are racist. i didn't say you are white racist. th...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
so to show your opposition to racism you choose to use racis...
frozen market
  11/22/17
btw still loling at "programming company." be hone...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
I'm glad thinking this makes you feel a little better. But n...
frozen market
  11/22/17
it IS unfortunate because your mental level is of that of a ...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
"mental level"? Lol come on dude you are fresh off...
frozen market
  11/22/17
Which part of India is Pattaya in? Who invented Agile? So ma...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
I'd be upset if I was working at a Houston insurance company...
frozen market
  11/22/17
You are upset regardless. See above. Wahhh indians took my j...
walnut jew
  11/22/17
we already established I have a job and don't work with any ...
frozen market
  11/22/17
oh right. the job at the "programming company"
walnut jew
  11/22/17
actually re-read that post. that was in reference to your jo...
frozen market
  11/22/17
sure zoolander!
walnut jew
  11/22/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/22/17
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Territorial blood rage
  11/22/17
REMINDER: Agile was invented by alpha Japs
Cerise water buffalo toaster
  11/22/17


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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender

when you're working in a JIRA system, and within a scrum structure.. the safest thing you can do is just working on tickets assigned to you, repeatedly asking for clarifications until every single detail is thought out for you, then go through the process which is 5 stages and make pull requests and earn story points.

a more risky thing to do is to take a liberal interpretation of a ticket, assign it to yourself, and put in the efforts to push through changes that are not described in the ticket, that will benefit the project on the long run (beyond the two weeks sprint cycle)..

the JIRA/agile system really discourages this type of risk taking.. but i have rich parents so i don't really have that much attachment toward this job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732399)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:20 PM
Author: frozen market

JIRA/scrum/storypoints system encourages developer suicide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732419)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:21 PM
Author: floppy sticky gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732431)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender

not developer suicide, just turning into DMV style clerks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732439)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: frozen market

I’m getting an MBA. fuck this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732461)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: amber office toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34747722)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:23 PM
Author: alcoholic trip shrine

I always take the second approach because I hate the tedium of "can u plz clarify, thank"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732454)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:25 PM
Author: floppy sticky gay wizard

We have three columns on our kanban board (design, qa, pm) where a story could get kicked back to the developer. AC just keep getting added and it is hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732482)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:23 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732457)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:25 PM
Author: frozen market

Programming has been so commoditized by H1b that it can be like call center work at the worst (most Indian) places. Their influence has been truly horrific.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732477)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:27 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender

It doesn’t have to be like that. You think mark zuckberg used Jira when coding first version of Facebook?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732494)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:28 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732507)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:28 PM
Author: frozen market

I believe that was before he ruined the industry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732509)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:32 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender

not every company does jira.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732535)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:39 PM
Author: frozen market

He lobbied congress to let in more Indians who do tend to use the system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732607)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:36 PM
Author: walnut jew

You have an axe to grind. The creator of Agile is a white guy. The managers that use this shit methodology and made it so popular - whites. But somehow Indians are to blame? Blame the white slave drivers for this shit, not Indians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732572)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:37 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender

actually, it's the contractors and outsourced labor that abuse the JIRA system.. which does consists a lot of Indians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732587)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: walnut jew

bullshit. every project I have been it's white managers that use this. i have been in this industry for 17 years. no seriously, just go look up - who created AGILE. go ahead. so yeah, now everyone uses this. but who made it? who popularized it? it was whites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732609)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender

doesn't matter who abuses it.. it is getting abused..



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732622)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: walnut jew

agreed. but the fag brought up h1bs/indians. which are the wrong people to blame for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732646)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: frozen market

They are the reason it is necessary. Obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732668)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: frozen market

This kind of micromanagement is much more common in India. They flooded the market and brought these customs with them. You can tell if you look at what companies use. Fratty white offices are still way more laid back and have results oriented environments. More heavily foreign offices are more focused on process. I know because I’ve worked in both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732596)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: walnut jew

Name the turdskin that invented AGILE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732613)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: frozen market

What difference does that make?? White people invent everything. What matters is who is using it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732624)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:41 PM
Author: mint temple sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732630)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:42 PM
Author: walnut jew

LOL faggot. Pwned. And whites are using it too. with gusto I should add. This is why I stopped taking white racists seriously. You look under the hood and it's just prejudice without any backing in fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732637)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: frozen market

What did I say that’s racist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732649)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:44 PM
Author: walnut jew

ljl fuck off fagit. name the turd that invented AGILE. come on lil breh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732653)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: frozen market

If you want to disagree that’s fine. But calling anyone who disagrees with you racist is pretty low IQ behavior. Already explained to you, Indians brought this culture with them. They’ve lowered the value and prestige of software work in general. Worse work environments come with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732675)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: walnut jew

I called you a racist because you are one. Own it. Pathetic. Can't handle the heat so you are going to go get an MBA. Protip genius - top MBA programs are filled with turds. What are you going to do then? Learn to compete instead of blaming Indians for your failures. Also, who was the inventor of AGILE again. Pls respond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732699)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: frozen market

I’m getting an MBA because the earning power is so much higher. Enjoy being a 50 yo engineer. Calling me a “racist” doesn’t really do anything, other than make you look unhinged. We can talk about race without hurling insults.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732708)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: walnut jew

sure bud. your "earning power" is on display ITT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732725)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: frozen market

You asked why. It’s true.

FYI, I work in a pretty chill environment, 100% white. Thankfully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34732740)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: walnut jew

I work in a 70% white environment. The rest are Latinos. The deve manager is Jewish. We use Agile (TeamForge). My previous boss was white white. Also used Agile (TFS). The boss before that was also white. Also used Agile (Rally).

You are just a racist tard and/or have very little exposure to the industry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34747716)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: frozen market

You work in a programming company with 30% Latinos? Lol ok man

Everyone can tell you are a deranged turdskin. If you’re the example it pretty much proves they are shitty to work with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34747760)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:33 PM
Author: walnut jew

I don't work for a "programming company" you fucking zoolander. I work for an insurance company that has an IT division. But yes, our group is about 30% beaners. Come visit Texas sometime. It's not out of the ordinary to be working with latinos. You really don't know shit about shit. How old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748436)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748453)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:37 PM
Author: frozen market

lol you are hilarious. ive lived and worked in Texas for 5 years. only latinos (large amount of actual Spanish-speaking spics) I've seen in tech where doing low-skill assembly line work. I certainly wouldn't say I worked "with them"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748467)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: walnut jew

ok racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748492)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: frozen market

bro if you despise "racists" so much wtf are you doing here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748501)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748511)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:44 PM
Author: walnut jew

You are getting pwned at work by women. Both of you are giant losers. Work harder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748518)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: frozen market

lmao pwned by women? In software development? What the fuck are you talking about? Maybe you need to take a little break to cool off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748533)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: walnut jew

look who i replied to, loser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748544)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748555)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: frozen market

female Mexican coders working at Houston insurance companies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748655)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748542)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:48 PM
Author: walnut jew

that i am, that i am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748546)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: frozen market

btw, insurance IT sounds TERRIBLE. You're definitely lower on the totem pole than I am, Hardeep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748495)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: walnut jew

Aren't you fleeing IT to do some shit mba? Whatever makes you feel better brah. Your abilities and experience are here for everyone to see ITT. Like I said, you don't know shit about shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748508)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: frozen market

I develop software for an actual consumer product, that people pay for. That's different than what you do. I don't really care what anonymous people think about my "abilities" and "experience", just wanted to point out that you're working a hilariously shitty role in IT.

And yes, I'm leaving to get an MBA and switch to finance to make more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748526)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: walnut jew

With your escapist attitude you will fail at whatever you do. There will be turds everywhere. They are going to keep you down because you are a no-talent loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748537)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: frozen market

most white people think turds are "creepy". I'm an affable tall normal American bro. I will always have the advantage over turds in front office work. Either way I don't really care how others are doing, so long as I'm making good money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748551)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: walnut jew

rook, i am chirr bro! hahahahahaha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748556)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: frozen market

10 minutes ago you called me a KKK white racist. Now you think I'm asian, and you're using a racist anti-asian meme. never go full retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748569)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: walnut jew

I said you are racist. i didn't say you are white racist. this lack of reading comp is going to hurt you in your mba program. watch out. those creepy turds are going to kirr you, tarr chirr bro!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748579)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: frozen market

so to show your opposition to racism you choose to use racist memes. I can't imagine why someone with your critical thinking ability is stuck in shit IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748635)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: walnut jew

btw still loling at "programming company." be honest, you are a 17 y/o dweeb in your mom's basement, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748591)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: frozen market

I'm glad thinking this makes you feel a little better. But no, I'm unfortunately not 17.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748642)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: walnut jew

it IS unfortunate because your mental level is of that of a 17 y/o. you really don't know much. sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748648)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: frozen market

"mental level"? Lol come on dude you are fresh off the boat from Pattaya clearly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748662)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: walnut jew

Which part of India is Pattaya in? Who invented Agile? So many questions. That's a lot for your mba brain! I lol at what a terrible life you must have with such a low iq. Sad sad sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748690)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:07 PM
Author: frozen market

I'd be upset if I was working at a Houston insurance company too brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748701)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: walnut jew

You are upset regardless. See above. Wahhh indians took my jerb!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748711)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:09 PM
Author: frozen market

we already established I have a job and don't work with any Indians... you have lost it completely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748731)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:12 PM
Author: walnut jew

oh right. the job at the "programming company"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748761)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:15 PM
Author: frozen market

actually re-read that post. that was in reference to your job (low reading comp?).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748792)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:16 PM
Author: walnut jew

sure zoolander!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748800)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34748696)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 11:10 AM
Author: Territorial blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34747764)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:44 AM
Author: Cerise water buffalo toaster

REMINDER: Agile was invented by alpha Japs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803701&forum_id=2#34746500)