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Senate bill raises taxes on 73% of households making $30k - $100k. Mark Wohlers?

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Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
Did he co-sponsor it?
henna office juggernaut
  11/21/17
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804515&mc=28&am...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
I see a source link in his, but not here
henna office juggernaut
  11/21/17
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/publicati...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
That supports his position that they will drop in the short ...
henna office juggernaut
  11/21/17
so we shouldn't assess what a bill would actually do, but ra...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
Quit being such an incredibly dimwitted fuckstick.
boyish gold principal's office half-breed
  11/21/17
Bout time they started paying their FAIR SHARE
titillating philosopher-king theater stage
  11/21/17
MAGA
Olive gunner locale
  11/21/17
Fuck them they’re probably hillary voters
Khaki really tough guy
  11/21/17
Not the Tax Policy Center! https://www.wsj.com/articles/t...
cracking national security agency stead
  11/21/17
pls specify which assumptions of their analysis are erroneou...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
The point is that it's disingenuous to ignore what it's doin...
carmine hall
  11/21/17
1) Ignore that the Senate made the middle-class tax cuts exp...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
I'm pretty sure they have to do it to get it passed
carmine hall
  11/21/17
i thought you were an expert? you don't understand the byrd ...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
I'm pretty knowledgeable on taxes and and their actual effec...
carmine hall
  11/21/17
You literally just made the same dumb observation that I was...
carmine hall
  11/21/17
o so u have no response, i see.
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
I mean if you want to call taxes going back to what they are...
carmine hall
  11/21/17
so we just can't talk about the fact the corporate cut doesn...
Obsidian cerebral shrine
  11/21/17
okay im dealing with bad flame.
carmine hall
  11/21/17
It's worse than just going back to what they were. The cut i...
house-broken sadistic plaza twinkling uncleanness
  11/21/17
It’s not just going back to the status quo - they are keepin...
Alcoholic Casino Community Account
  11/21/17
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Khaki really tough guy
  12/01/17
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Khaki really tough guy
  12/01/17
this holds guy is a yuge faggot, but the bill also sucks shi...
Racy heaven famous landscape painting
  11/21/17


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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:29 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: henna office juggernaut

Did he co-sponsor it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738838)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:30 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804515&mc=28&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738844)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: henna office juggernaut

I see a source link in his, but not here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738853)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:32 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/sites/default/files/publication/148831/2001605-distributional-analysis-of-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-as-passed-by-the-senate-finance-committee_1.pdf

go polish your plugs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738858)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:36 AM
Author: henna office juggernaut

That supports his position that they will drop in the short term and then go up if the cuts arent renewed in 10 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738902)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:50 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

so we shouldn't assess what a bill would actually do, but rather make assumptions about what a hypothetical future congress might do. got it.

q for u: does it get uncomfortable wearing a plug all day every day, or is your sphincter just so ruined at this point that you don't really notice it anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738991)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: boyish gold principal's office half-breed

Quit being such an incredibly dimwitted fuckstick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739055)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:46 AM
Author: titillating philosopher-king theater stage

Bout time they started paying their FAIR SHARE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34738971)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:47 AM
Author: Olive gunner locale

MAGA

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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:53 AM
Author: Khaki really tough guy

Fuck them they’re probably hillary voters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739017)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:55 AM
Author: cracking national security agency stead

Not the Tax Policy Center!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-partisan-tax-policy-center-1457132750

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739042)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

pls specify which assumptions of their analysis are erroneous and the result of a partisan bias, thx.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739048)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:57 AM
Author: carmine hall

The point is that it's disingenuous to ignore what it's doing before 2026 and imply what's happening in 2026 (WHICH IS JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT WE ARE TODAY) is what's happening in the bill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739060)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

1) Ignore that the Senate made the middle-class tax cuts expire.

2) Insist on judging the bill on partial implementation, before it expires.

3) Say, "Well, you know, things may change later."

3) Presto: Tax cut!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739066)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: carmine hall

I'm pretty sure they have to do it to get it passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739071)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

i thought you were an expert? you don't understand the byrd rule?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739076)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: carmine hall

I'm pretty knowledgeable on taxes and and their actual effects. Not on Senate rules, no. I udnerstand what Byrd Rule is but I'm not sure the details of what is acceptable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739096)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: carmine hall

You literally just made the same dumb observation that I was criticizing in my post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739049)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:57 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

o so u have no response, i see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739058)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: carmine hall

I mean if you want to call taxes going back to what they are now in 10 years a tax increase, go ahead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739069)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: Obsidian cerebral shrine

so we just can't talk about the fact the corporate cut doesn't expire but the individual cut does. you really seem like a well-informed expert! thanks for elucidating!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739074)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:59 AM
Author: carmine hall

okay im dealing with bad flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739078)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: house-broken sadistic plaza twinkling uncleanness

It's worse than just going back to what they were. The cut in rates expire but the other "revenue-raising" portions of the bill remain. The corporate rate remains at the lower percentage beyond 2027.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739802)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: Alcoholic Casino Community Account

It’s not just going back to the status quo - they are keeping chained cpi, which puts people into higher tax brackets then they would be under the current CPI measure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739875)



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Date: December 1st, 2017 12:33 PM
Author: Khaki really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34814572)



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Date: December 1st, 2017 12:28 PM
Author: Khaki really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34814535)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:58 PM
Author: Racy heaven famous landscape painting

this holds guy is a yuge faggot, but the bill also sucks shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804590&forum_id=2#34739934)