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Going out with model/socialite tonight, taking Qs

Other than requests for pics of her, since I am def not link...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
you are living the dream bro
seedy corner
  11/21/17
What UG did she go to
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
(jjc)
apoplectic nowag national
  11/21/17
Just wanted to see if she was a striver or legit rich girl
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
None. Says she deferred admission to a preftigious school to...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
180 if true
seedy corner
  11/21/17
Lol so CR good luck brother
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
I think you had the right idea when you were going for a chi...
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
nvr mind. Republican. 180.
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
I'm still seeing the girl with the good career, I am just no...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
hold old is she? how "real" were her modeling days...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
She was/is signed to one of the major modeling agencies.
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
180 age? even those girls get used up and are ezpz once the...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
she's still young and is very skinny
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
also, kind of doubting her prestige if she was / is a "...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
this is the most JJC post of all time
motley flesh trailer park knife
  11/21/17
...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
so are all the posts from that pumomo ITT
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
bro how are you going to flaunt this shit on the board and n...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
verification has nothing to do with it, his point is that th...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
I said nothing about academic prestige. My prestige comment ...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
...
bearded twinkling rehab
  11/21/17
She probably is not too bright. If she was able to get i...
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
CR she must be awful or she would have skipped modeling to g...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
...
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
...
cordovan excitant idea he suggested multi-billionaire
  11/21/17
Was not saying that in a remotely critical way.
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
I had to get DAT HBS plug in somewhere though.
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
If she splits between NYC and Newport, signs are pointing to...
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
CR. Family money must go back to great-grandparents at l...
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
no imgur, no care
Passionate fat ankles sound barrier
  11/21/17
What type of High school did she go to?
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
not sure, I'd expect a boarding school. I think she was a de...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
Bring some coke if you want to seal the deal! 180.
yapping gunner feces
  11/21/17
I actually think I know who this might be. I know someone wh...
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/21/17
no
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
I also know someone who vaguely matches this description - w...
awkward cuck police squad
  11/22/17
is she overly tall with angular harsh drugged out features
Arousing offensive locus
  11/21/17
no
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
...
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
what's her race?
seedy corner
  11/21/17
white
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
can you be more specific?
seedy corner
  11/21/17
you looking for a jew/WASP/papist breakdown?
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
Also, LOL at thinking an ex-model / now socialite has sugar ...
seedy corner
  11/21/17
Current model and socialite. I don't think a sugar momma has...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
All wives dress their hubbies.
exciting emerald selfie
  11/22/17
Attention Whores and Autists: The RSF-JJC Chronicles
Contagious stage
  11/21/17
...
alcoholic nofapping tanning salon
  11/21/17
...
obsidian lodge
  11/21/17
Dont you find the tall model types are too bony and kind of ...
magical jew keepsake machete
  11/21/17
Wild variation, some are excellent in bed, some just lie the...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
I agree re variation, but would say overall, not that great....
magical jew keepsake machete
  11/21/17
Girls who are REALLY into fitness are usually too muscular f...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
what's his name?
thriller white stage
  11/21/17
pepito
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
...
thriller white stage
  11/21/17
...
apoplectic nowag national
  11/21/17
You met her online? Newport beach or newport RI?
mahogany heady psychic stag film
  11/21/17
RI
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
I met her through friends.
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
what kind of place you go to? Like that OAK spot (I've ne...
lascivious arrogant brunch
  11/21/17
Lol'd at "that OAK spot"
Supple deer antler locale
  11/21/17
I know it's called 1oak or whatever. who cares.
lascivious arrogant brunch
  11/21/17
I know Doc Holliday's I was there SHIT CANNED one Sunday whe...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
I've only been shit canned while there. fun spot. when...
lascivious arrogant brunch
  11/21/17
There's a dive bar down the block from me. I go there most o...
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
I hope you have cocaine
bearded twinkling rehab
  11/21/17
lolno, she can get that herself if she wants it.
vengeful temple mediation
  11/21/17
need nudes
cerise kitchen
  11/21/17
...
canary histrionic striped hyena menage
  11/22/17
cr. Some of her, too, if you can.
Frisky Useless Brakes
  11/22/17
any update, brother?
bateful heaven milk
  11/22/17
...
transparent greedy lettuce
  11/22/17
can we have pics now
Passionate fat ankles sound barrier
  11/22/17


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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:05 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

Other than requests for pics of her, since I am def not linking to social media or her modeling pictures. Registered R from a preftigious family, splits her time between NYC and Newport. SERIOUS sugar mama potential here UNGHHHHH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741030)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:06 PM
Author: seedy corner

you are living the dream bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741036)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:06 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale

What UG did she go to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741040)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:07 PM
Author: apoplectic nowag national

(jjc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741045)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:19 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale

Just wanted to see if she was a striver or legit rich girl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741150)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:14 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

None. Says she deferred admission to a preftigious school to go straight into fulltime modeling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741104)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:14 PM
Author: seedy corner

180 if true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741109)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:19 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale

Lol so CR good luck brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741152)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:15 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

I think you had the right idea when you were going for a chick with a good normal career.

That said, this is still 180.

Age?

By "Registered R" you mean she's in the social register?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741123)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:16 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

nvr mind. Republican. 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741135)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

I'm still seeing the girl with the good career, I am just not that into her. She is very whiney and needy. By Registered R, I mean Republican, possible TRUMPMO, will confirm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741162)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:15 PM
Author: seedy corner

hold old is she? how "real" were her modeling days? unless she was signed to a major shop (edit: agency, used terms in my field by accident) it doesn't count. unless you out her credentials you are just paying lip service. but you are still living the dream regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741125)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

She was/is signed to one of the major modeling agencies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741170)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: seedy corner

180

age? even those girls get used up and are ezpz once they get old and fat, and by fat I mean anything more than a twig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741195)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

she's still young and is very skinny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741215)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:18 PM
Author: seedy corner

also, kind of doubting her prestige if she was / is a "model". my experience has been NYC's real models are not generally prestigious outside of being a real model, ie. doubt she's an old money WASP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741147)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: motley flesh trailer park knife

this is the most JJC post of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741155)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: seedy corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741165)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

so are all the posts from that pumomo ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741175)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: seedy corner

bro how are you going to flaunt this shit on the board and not expect to verify the facts of your post?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741205)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

verification has nothing to do with it, his point is that the emphasis on academic prestige above all angle was jjc-esque

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741225)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: seedy corner

I said nothing about academic prestige. My prestige comment had to do with race / lineage if you look at the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741241)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: bearded twinkling rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741536)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

She probably is not too bright.

If she was able to get into HYSP she would have gone.

If her best option was SUNY, she would just model and skip college.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741159)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

CR she must be awful or she would have skipped modeling to go to HBS for the two best years of her life, I think we can all agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741179)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741182)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: cordovan excitant idea he suggested multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741197)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

Was not saying that in a remotely critical way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741230)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:41 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

I had to get DAT HBS plug in somewhere though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741356)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale

If she splits between NYC and Newport, signs are pointing towards old money legit family lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741164)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

CR.

Family money must go back to great-grandparents at lease if they still have a place in Newport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741308)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: Passionate fat ankles sound barrier

no imgur, no care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741166)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

What type of High school did she go to?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741186)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

not sure, I'd expect a boarding school. I think she was a debutante as well, not positive. Don't know her very well.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741201)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: yapping gunner feces

Bring some coke if you want to seal the deal! 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741207)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce

I actually think I know who this might be. I know someone who meets all the criteria.

Does her first name start with an [redacted. If i'm right you will not say so, so why give the NOWAGS help]?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741208)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741217)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 11:13 AM
Author: awkward cuck police squad

I also know someone who vaguely matches this description - was a day student at one of the three boarding schools located in RI. If this is her, you deserve each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34747785)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: Arousing offensive locus

is she overly tall with angular harsh drugged out features

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741213)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741218)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741223)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: seedy corner

what's her race?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741224)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741351)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: seedy corner

can you be more specific?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741471)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

you looking for a jew/WASP/papist breakdown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741515)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: seedy corner

Also, LOL at thinking an ex-model / now socialite has sugar momma potential. LJL. Sugar mommas in NYC are the used up bitches with any number of glaring deficiencies pushing 40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741254)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

Current model and socialite. I don't think a sugar momma has to be a 40 year old hag. My bro used to live with this girl who paid their rent and pretty much paid for his life and she was 26. It was a little LOL since she would pick out his clothes and buy them for him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741270)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: exciting emerald selfie

All wives dress their hubbies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34747687)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: Contagious stage

Attention Whores and Autists: The RSF-JJC Chronicles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741292)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: alcoholic nofapping tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741301)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: obsidian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741312)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: magical jew keepsake machete

Dont you find the tall model types are too bony and kind of lame in bed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741364)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

Wild variation, some are excellent in bed, some just lie there and are useless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741383)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: magical jew keepsake machete

I agree re variation, but would say overall, not that great. Fitness chicks are where it's at IMO. 90% of the time, great in bed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741403)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

Girls who are REALLY into fitness are usually too muscular for my tastes. I slept with a personal trainer my last night in Dubai, she was def high T as FUCK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741415)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: thriller white stage

what's his name?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741374)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

pepito

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741391)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: thriller white stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741457)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: apoplectic nowag national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741400)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: mahogany heady psychic stag film

You met her online?

Newport beach or newport RI?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741504)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale

RI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741517)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 4:01 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

I met her through friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741583)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:56 PM
Author: lascivious arrogant brunch

what kind of place you go to?

Like that OAK spot (I've never been to it or anything similar) in MeatPacking?

Or can you take a broad like that to a place like Doc Holliday's off Tompkins Square Park?

You live a cool life bro. Have a hell of a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741526)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: Supple deer antler locale

Lol'd at "that OAK spot"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741541)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: lascivious arrogant brunch

I know it's called 1oak or whatever. who cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741608)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

I know Doc Holliday's I was there SHIT CANNED one Sunday when I was still practicing and asked the bartender to write me a sick note to bring to the partner for Monday. I was so drunk at the time that it made sense to me that this would work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741591)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 4:05 PM
Author: lascivious arrogant brunch

I've only been shit canned while there. fun spot.

when you want to drink and make sure you have a seat at the bar what's your spot? I like PJ Clarke's in midtown but so fucking crowded. I like the old school barkeeps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741628)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

There's a dive bar down the block from me. I go there most of the time, or other dives with hockey buddies. If I have to go to a doorman place what's popular these days? Electric Room, ACME, The Blonde (lol), Casablanca. Rose Bar has made a resurgence also which I'm sure the board will find amusing. As an oldmo I prefer people having parties at their place or going to dive bars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741646)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: bearded twinkling rehab

I hope you have cocaine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741554)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: vengeful temple mediation

lolno, she can get that herself if she wants it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804857&forum_id=2#34741594)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: cerise kitchen

need nudes

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 11:17 AM
Author: canary histrionic striped hyena menage



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:33 PM
Author: Frisky Useless Brakes

cr. Some of her, too, if you can.

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: bateful heaven milk

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:34 PM
Author: transparent greedy lettuce



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:33 PM
Author: Passionate fat ankles sound barrier

can we have pics now

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