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ITT: Most prestigious sport to be best at

What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at th...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
Sex
provocative stage
  11/22/17
Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athle...
Swollen faggotry
  11/22/17
yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it see...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impa...
Swollen faggotry
  11/22/17
Fair enough.
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
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Burgundy quadroon
  11/22/17
Hm, criteria?
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
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Burgundy quadroon
  11/22/17
IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now....
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
lax
embarrassed to the bone exhilarant doctorate field
  11/22/17
why?
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
b/c ur chad
Talking Infuriating Halford Immigrant
  11/22/17
For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Sha...
ivory double fault den
  11/22/17
far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus
Swollen faggotry
  11/22/17
shit basketball players get paid far more than any other spo...
shivering sanctuary
  11/22/17
egregious exclusion of hockey
Mildly Autistic Church Macaca
  11/22/17
I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rar...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretz...
Hairraiser Beta Party Of The First Part
  11/22/17
olympic swimming/diving
Histrionic insane headpube windowlicker
  11/22/17
Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MM...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
Surfing
Thriller market
  11/22/17
hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
Boxing.
Stirring Nibblets
  11/22/17
I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter ...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically ...
Stirring Nibblets
  11/22/17
crude but accurate analysis
Cracking peach mental disorder
  11/22/17
You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as ...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they...
lilac razzle lay
  11/22/17
you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in ...
Cerebral Pungent Whorehouse
  11/22/17
...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/23/17
swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman
Bat-shit-crazy khaki police squad death wish
  11/22/17
compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale.
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill
Seedy big-titted queen of the night brunch
  11/22/17
Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five.
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
Hunting
aphrodisiac turquoise personal credit line
  11/22/17
Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer....
lilac razzle lay
  11/22/17
Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in ...
Massive diverse center
  11/22/17
Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most.
lilac razzle lay
  11/22/17
...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/22/17
polo
Autistic lettuce parlor
  11/22/17
If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. I...
Poppy Theatre Fanboi
  11/22/17
Strongman
ruby people who are hurt
  11/22/17
Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though.
buff dragon turdskin
  11/23/17
I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with ...
Cerebral Pungent Whorehouse
  11/22/17
...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/23/17
Water polo, if you really think about it.
geriatric garrison
  11/22/17
Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more incl...
buff dragon turdskin
  11/23/17


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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:46 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at the top of their sport (i.e. being a middle-of-the-road boxer may not be very prestigious at all in comparison to your average tennis player, but Floyd Mayweather might be more prestigious than Rafa Nadal; it's the latter comparison I'm asking for)?

Please also include how you weight the following criteria:

- reliance on team (or lack thereof)

- skill difficulty

- athleticism demanded

- real world benefits (Anderson Silva will never lose a street fight, but Jordan Spieth could get the shit beaten out of him; LeBron will be good at virtually anything athletic IRL, whereas Tom Brady probably wouldn't be)

- money and lifestyle afforded

My criteria are something like this in importance:

- reliance on team: 8/10

- skill difficulty: 7/10

- athleticism demanded: 9/10

- real world benefits: 9/10

- money and lifestyle afforded: 2/10

I'm going with one of these:

- Swimming: no team reliance, very high level of athleticism demanded

- Tennis: extremely high skill difficulty, decently high athleticism demanded, decent lifestyle, no team reliance

- Boxing/MMA: extremely high skill difficulty, extremely high athleticism demanded, no team reliance, excellent real world benefit, particularly great lifestyle w/boxing

- Basketball: High skill difficulty, moderately high athleticism demanded, great real world benefits (good hand/eye coordination and athleticism), nice lifestyle

- Water polo: unbelievable athleticism demanded, high skill difficulty, decent real world benefits (primarily due to being incredibly well rounded athletically)

- Gymnastics: very high levels of skill difficulty and athleticism, decent real world benefits due to athleticism and cool factor, no reliance on team

Would probably choose Boxing/MMA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746344)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: provocative stage

Sex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746347)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: Swollen faggotry

Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athleticism" points you gain are negated by the fact that you have to be a manlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746348)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:57 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it seems to be to everyone else on the bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746363)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: Swollen faggotry

Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impact of being say 5'10" vs. 6'

but gymnasts are fucking tiny, like 5'5"

that would be killself territory out in the real world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746381)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:15 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

Fair enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746392)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: Burgundy quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746377)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

Hm, criteria?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746423)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:44 AM
Author: Burgundy quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746452)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:51 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746596)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone exhilarant doctorate field

lax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746378)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746424)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:49 AM
Author: Talking Infuriating Halford Immigrant

b/c ur chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746458)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:10 AM
Author: ivory double fault den

For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Shaw said most football players would rather be basketball players but couldn't hack it, so I'll go with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746384)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:14 AM
Author: Swollen faggotry

far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746389)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: shivering sanctuary

shit basketball players get paid far more than any other sport + guaranteed contracts + lack of incoming talent each year are the biggest draws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746440)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic Church Macaca

egregious exclusion of hockey



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746426)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:50 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rare for one person to take over a game, so it's less prestigious because even the best are less dominant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746594)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:59 AM
Author: Hairraiser Beta Party Of The First Part

It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretzky and it's very wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747252)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:00 AM
Author: Histrionic insane headpube windowlicker

olympic swimming/diving

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746474)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:01 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MMA/basketball?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746606)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:32 AM
Author: Thriller market

Surfing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746493)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:02 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required by surfing are comparable to football/basketball/boxing/MMA, or why you think that's a poor metric for athletic difficulty.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746607)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: Stirring Nibblets

Boxing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746599)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:00 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter fights. Please compare the overall athleticism required by MMA and boxing, as well as explain why you think money is better criteria than real world benefit (where MMA fighters kick boxers' around pretty handily).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746605)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:08 AM
Author: Stirring Nibblets

lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically homos wrestling in underwear.

It's two completely distinct sports. Boxing has a rich history and is a sport for gentleman. MMA is for retards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746615)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:16 AM
Author: Cracking peach mental disorder

crude but accurate analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746828)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as well as boxing's rich history. On everything else, you're wrong.

If you're actually arguing that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai (currently the most influential martial arts in MMA) require no skill, then this is a pointless argument. If you're arguing that the combined practice of those and other martial arts is useless, that's inane. If you're arguing that an MMA fighter wouldn't destroy a boxer in a fight outside a ring, you're deluding yourself.

If prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through ability to incapacitate your opponent (which is the principle boxing is based on), how is MMA not a more complete measure of skill?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747206)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: lilac razzle lay

BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they incorporate more than punching. MMA is appealing because there are fewer rules, so it more closely resembles a street fight.

I'm not 100% convinced that MMA fighters univeresally would annihilate boxers in a no rules street fight. For defensive boxers, this is probably true, but what about a fucker like Roberto Duran? Roy Jones? MMA fighters study boxing and striking too. Many of them, were they elite level punchers or boxers would have gone that route, as there is more money to be made.

Prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through the ability to hit and not get hit within the Marquess of Queensberry rules. That is what makes is an art, a chess match if you will. Each fighter's will and strategy tested as the fight unfolds over 12 rounds is what makes the sport appealing.

Not to take anything away from MMA, but it is crude and often unpleasant to watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747283)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: Cerebral Pungent Whorehouse

you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in wrestling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747272)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy khaki police squad death wish

swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746601)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:57 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746603)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:13 AM
Author: Seedy big-titted queen of the night brunch

Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746626)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746660)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:24 AM
Author: aphrodisiac turquoise personal credit line

Hunting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746651)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: lilac razzle lay

Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer.

Messi and Ronaldo are international icons and superstars in a way that no other athlete in any other sport is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746659)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:32 AM
Author: Massive diverse center

Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in the world at a sport.

Golf, you can play at at elite level and earn for going on 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746677)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: lilac razzle lay

Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747226)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:58 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:15 AM
Author: Autistic lettuce parlor

polo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746821)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:40 AM
Author: Poppy Theatre Fanboi

If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. If you’re the best in the world at either sport, you are guaranteed to be a worldwide household name and global phenomenon in terms of branding. No other sport guarantees that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747156)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: ruby people who are hurt

Strongman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747229)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:17 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754878)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Cerebral Pungent Whorehouse

I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with boxing as the top choice here. Exceedingly prestigious to be the best in the world, even if boxing is quite unprestigious at the lower levels. It's almost like acting in that way.

I also think being the best skier in the world is underrated. Those guys are unbelievable athletes, no team reliance, pretty good real world attributes, etc. The money is not quite as good as other sports though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747261)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: geriatric garrison

Water polo, if you really think about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747271)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 AM
Author: buff dragon turdskin

Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more inclined I am to agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754877)