now that i think about it, it's like they are weaponizing these africans against everyone else who ISN'T a billionaire who can afford moats and fences and things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34866520)

"But what of Soros?" one might ask. "What of his color revolution, and the money he made?"

Difficult as it is to penetrate his true motives, it stands to reason he's a true believer in the open society, or some form of it. He often manages to profit off his political actions, to be sure, but by the same token he's burned a bunch of money to no real purpose other than to send a political message.

The real secret of decline is that decadent societies put forward softer people; rule passes from psychotics to neurotics. Neurotics are incapable of rational stewardship of a nation, taking into account both current affairs and the residual claims of the future, because they are too emotionally reactive. Jews tend to be neurotic, and they've been ascendant, but the turn to schmaltz can be seen just as well in the WASPs of today; and the grand Jews of yesteryear would be disgusted by the weakness of our current crop.

All of these themes are explored at length in season two of PSYCHO-PASS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34915878)

So, it's got a heavy whiff of some neonazi crap, cleaned up and presentable to the more gullible on xo.

Does that answer your question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34916681)

To your first point about draw: I left the thread up in its original form until it had run through its useful life, including the blank-bumped response above. It's not a bait-and-switch to resurrect it to make the point I was originally going to make, after letting others have their day in the sun.

Second, I'm not a neo-Nazi or anything of the sort. I'm a great friend of the Jews, as I've said many times. In fact, this poast _argues against_ the idea of Jewish influence being this all-powerful explanatory force, by noting WASPs are just as pozzed.

Third, I don't know how you get the idea that I've a grand universal theory that implies antisemitism. As noted above, nothing in this poast is antisemitic, if anything it is philosemitic. If it's antisemitic to point out Jews tend to be more neurotic than average, I guess Jerry Seinfeld, Philip Roth, Woody Allen, and oh I don't know every fucking Jew in America is anti-semitic. Further, the poast runs from observation to theory, not the other way 'round.

Finally, I'll note you haven't actually engaged with any of the substance of what I said. You betray no hint of even actually understanding it; it is as if I were talking to a tree or a rock. As such, I stand behind my initial *fierce bongrip* rejoinder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34916719)

1. Whats a decadent society? Who says when its decadent? what are the metric.

2. What do you mean "soft" soft people?

3. are you saying that societies thrive or are better when they have *psychotics* in charge? Do you know what *psychotic* means?

4. whats the mechanism by which rule passes from psychotics to neurotics?

5 What do you mean by neurotic? You mean self-aware? What do you mean jews (and you name some people in the entertainment business) are more neurotic? Are Jewish scientists more neurotic on balance?

6. how have jews been "Ascendant"? What does being "Ascendant" even mean?

7. What is schmaltz? Jews turn to schmaltz? How does this happen?

8. What is a "Grand Jew of Yesteryear" and how do you know what this hypothetical person would or wouldn't think anyway.

I know what you are pushing bro. All of this is political tract level nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34916872)

a. America ~1999-present; late-stage Rome, etc. etc. Roughly the same answer you'd get in "from Dawn to Decadence."

b. I do.

c. Re: metric - here are a few:

(I) production of great artistic works as scored by methodology in Murray, Human Achievement;

(II) trust and cohesiveness as scored by common sociology probes (incl. e.g. Putnam, Bowling Alone);

(III) generational and population placement on neuroticism spectrum using well-validated big-five OCEAN scale.

Could think of many others.

2. What do you mean "soft" soft people?

Pajama Boy-types.

3. are you saying that societies thrive or are better when they have *psychotics* in charge? Do you know what *psychotic* means?

(i) Yes.

(ii) I'm using it in the sense of Hans Eysenck (e.g., http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/porzio.html)

4. whats the mechanism by which rule passes from psychotics to neurotics?

Societies are in competition.

The winning strategy is meritocracy.

Psychotics use their creativity to rise to the top of the meritocracy.

The society run by the psychotics rises the top of the competition of nations.

The surplus created by this victory leads everyone to slack off, thinking it will be fine if we are indulgent and put soft-touches (whom the women love to coddle) in charge.

5 What do you mean by neurotic? You mean self-aware? What do you mean jews (and you name some people in the entertainment business) are more neurotic? Are Jewish scientists more neurotic on balance?

a) No, I mean neurotic as measured as defined by the big five or even better, a composite trait made up of a bunch of operationally specified sub-traits for which we know the gene loadings.

b) You ask if Jews are more neurotic - answer is yes. For example see http://midus.wisc.edu/findings/pdfs/1488.pdf

6. how have jews been "Ascendant"? What does being "Ascendant" even mean?

Dominant across all important walks of American life, from physics, to math, to CS, to business, to the entertainment industry.

7. What is schmaltz? Jews turn to schmaltz? How does this happen?

(i) Cheap sentimentality.

(ii) Yes, Jews turn to schmaltz. Ever seen Fiddler on the Roof?

(iii) They become overly emotional about their own imagined past & culture due to a combination of overly-active mothering and a genetic propensity to high neuroticism.

8. What is a "Grand Jew of Yesteryear" and how do you know what this hypothetical person would or wouldn't think anyway.

(i) John von Neumann. We know what he'd say and do because we have his writings and sayings, for example about bombing the USSR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34916982)

Nonsense about decadence. I can use other metrics to show we are in boom times, which a cultural flowering and expansion.

"Soft" people undefined. Sounds like an excuse to be mean.

Having psychotics in charge is not something I can get behind. that's literally what you are saying here. almost the entire field of social science says stay away from psychotics in charge. They wreak havoc and harm and are destructive and lead us into hopeless situations.

The jew stuff is just nonsense. Yes, jews are well represented in all fields. So? They are a smart able people. ASCENDANCY--what would you have them do? DESCEND?

You like people like John Von Neumann, and you think you know him because of his writings--and you emphasize but do not disavow "bombing the USSR."

No offense but I can see why you never got your PhD.

Your link is dead btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917048)

Again, I'm not describing psychopathic personality disorder, I'm describing people high on the personality trait psychoticism.

Re: soft people, don't pretend you don't know who they are.

Re: Jews, I really don't see your point. You asked me about ascendancy, I answered.

You seem to be pursuing some personal vendetta against someone I don't know here. Maybe cool off a bit and re-read the exchange with a fresh eyes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917076)

I know you are not talking about psychopaths which is why I didn't push it. But psychotic behavior under any rubric is not something a healthy society should seek to have in its leadership.

I don't know what you mean about "soft people" to be honest? Do you mean hypercivilized people? Artistic? Sensitive? the guy in the movies who lets the bad guy go free? those are movies.

You are saying that jews are in a position of Acendancy, whatever that means, and that this is somehow a *bad* thing for society. What flows from that belief other than jews shouldn't be in a position of "Ascendancy" and what would that mean. Stripping such people from their jobs, work, positions?

Terence this is stupid stuff is from a poem.

We don't say a society is in decline or is in a decadent stage anymore. There's some good to come out of post modernism, believe it or not, and one good point has been to be Very careful about assigning Broad Sweeping characterizations to the state of any society, particularly when you Are Still Living in it and cant see the forest for the trees anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917172)

* No, "psychoticism" != psychopathic personality disorder. You DID try to push it, now you're trying to backpedal. Stop trying to save face on the way out, it's unseemly. You misunderstood a term and decided to go on the attack rather than suspect someone might know something you didn't. This is typical midwit arrogance.

* I said the CURRENT CROP of Jews, AND WASPs AND OTHERS, being in charge is bad because they're overly emotionally reactive. I even posted a study showing a genetic loading for social sensitivity in Jews. I also provided an example of a Jew who, due to having a higher psychoticism loading, wouldn't be as soft.

Put simply, you didn't understand my thesis to begin with, you betray no evidence of understanding it now, and your attempts at "gotcha" questions are not assisting you.

PS: you edited to add the below quote, which you're entitled to believe, though you present no evidence for it beyond your ipse dixit & blind faith:

"We don't say a society is in decline or is in a decadent stage anymore. There's some good to come out of post modernism, believe it or not, and one good point has been to be Very careful about assigning Broad Sweeping characterizations to the state of any society, particularly when you Are Still Living in it and cant see the forest for the trees anyway."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917220)

Bottom line is: your crap viewpoint is typically unconsidered and you should think about some of the links that make sense in your head but that don't necessarily flow into each other when viewed critically. You get mad and holler that I've misunderstood your private terminology and asked Gotcha questions ala that towering intellectual Sarah Palin which is middling wit at best.

I don't mean to be harsh but i'm pretty accurate here. I still like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917237)

I like you too, and you are free to believe what you want about my beliefs, I don't take them personally, for they're not part of me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917250)

strangely b/c (1) it's spaceporn, our lovable clitdick mascot, and as far as i'm aware black science man has yet to do a memecast about housman and (2) the point of the line is that the guy who says it is an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917259)

Chinky allusive poets knew this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917275)

*rips oil rig*

*checks clock - 7:38am*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34917061)

being kind = don't take him seriously at all. the guy thinks jews are not in ascendancy these days fer chrissake (SP, compare % of jews at harvard, % of jews existing as bars of soap, % of jews living in a jewish state, between the early 20th century and now).

anyone with discernment agrees that comrade twins is always incisive and nearly always literally correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928589)

(ii) you continue to conflate ASPD and trait psychoticism. you call the latter term outmoded; you can see for yourself it is not:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2013&q=psychoticism+creativity&hl=en&as_sdt=0,31

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928905)

I know what you mean when you say trait psychoticism but you are using an obscure one-off meaning of the word first and second even under your almost-private-language meaning psychoticism is not a trait positive for national leadership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928921)

And the idea that nations proceed from dawn to decadence as they lose the creativity of the founding generations, or the generations that fought for the upswing, hardly singles me out as a crank.

As for "the way [I] mention" Jews, you'll have to be specific. I noted they were ascendant, answered your questions as to how, etc. I also noted they tend to be high in trait neuroticism, which is not controversial. So what exactly is your beef?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928957)

"Bottom line is: your crap viewpoint is typically unconsidered and you should think about some of the links that make sense in your head but that don't necessarily flow into each other when viewed critically."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928692)

It seems you don't have any specific critiques--just a vague gestalt that doesn't sit right with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928935)

Historically, do you see any problems with this viewpoint?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928953)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34928993)

(but references to Uncle Remus stories are deeply not okay and suggest you are endorsing klansmen like David Duke.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3821655&forum_id=2#34929794)