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California to ban leaf blowers
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Date: December 9th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown https://www.npr.org/2017/02/28/517576431/california-weighs-tougher-emissions-rules-for-gas-powered-garden-equipment
HAHAHAHA! Fuck these douches. |
Date: December 9th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: Territorial Piazza Leaf blowers must be the stupidest goddamn thing. Are they used at all outside of the USA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875907) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: Naked dashing dingle berry i thought that for years until i rented a house with four mature oak trees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875909) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 1:57 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown Nobody has yards as big as Yankee yards so not really. In NYC they barely exist and when they do exist it's usually the electric kind. ARE NYC yards are like 150sq feet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875914) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:09 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams I use mine all the time. It’s 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875989) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: exciting thirsty therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875950) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:05 PM Author: metal den they are going to kills lots of jobs for mexicans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875965) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams Opposite. Now they have to use rakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875992) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown Exactly. This is being done to make the slaves more $$$. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876008) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: metal den then that wouldn't really make them slaves. i mean, most don't pay taxes. most get free public services for their kids like schools, healthcare, foodstamps. It's the hardworking taxpayer who toils day in day out and gets 30-40 percent of his salary taken away from the government. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876046) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: alcoholic light school huge reptile here, but this is a CREDITED policy. leaf blowers contribute little and run up a huge carbon bill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875991) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown It's a 2 stroke engine with like half a horse power to it that you run for at best 20 minutes once a week. It's emitting jack all. You burn maybe 1-1.5 gallons every 3 months running the thing. This is just being done to drive up the cost of hiring Mexican slaves and to get them a higher wage when they tell you they have to rake all that shit by hand now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876005) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: Abusive mad-dog skullcap Landscaping companies run them for 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876056) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:22 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown Thankfully we dont all work for landscaping companies. The per capita impact of leaf blowers is jack all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876074) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: Abusive mad-dog skullcap They're looking at all small engines, which cumulatively put off a ton of polution, not just leaf blowers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876086) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:58 PM Author: irradiated chestnut candlestick maker And now they can transport more landscapers, which burns more fuel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876315) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:58 PM Author: Territorial Piazza https://www.citylab.com/life/2016/11/the-case-against-neighbors-with-leaf-blowers/506324/
“Simplest benchmark: running a leafblower for 30 minutes creates more emissions than driving a F-150 pickup truck 3800 miles,” |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:00 PM Author: irradiated chestnut candlestick maker If so, that's pretty fucking dirty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876324) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:33 PM Author: Beady-eyed Idiotic Headpube Rigor "emissions," without additional clarification, is a worthless descriptor of what is being measured. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876471) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:37 PM Author: Marvelous Duck-like Market (twitter feed of stank shrew who just gassed 16 people on an elevator) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876511) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: racy genital piercing 923849234924 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877668) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: Disturbing curious french chef There is no definition of "emissions" for which this is acceptable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877011) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 7:01 PM Author: Beady-eyed Idiotic Headpube Rigor Of course there is. Most leaf blowers are 2-cycle engines. I would be shocked if simple 2-cycle engines don't have a very different emissions profile than 4-cycle engines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877768) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams Come on man. I have a quarter acre with a bunch of trees and it’s absolutey vital to my yard maintenance. I don’t buy any “pollution” arguments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876023) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: at-the-ready titillating church philosopher-king Just get an electrical one with an extension cord. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876027) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:16 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams Pain in the ass. Parts of my yard are over 100 feet from any outlet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876038) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: tan buck-toothed temple yarmulke they make cords that long (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876043) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown Just do an extension cord that runs 500 feet. LJL. The electric ones are only okay in places like NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876040) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:20 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams Also electric ones are weak. Night and day between even a plug in one and gas. Don’t even get me started on the rechargeable ones.
I say this as someone forced to blow foot deep leaf coverage into piles every year, even my gas powered one had trouble |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:34 PM Author: Beady-eyed Idiotic Headpube Rigor For big leaf jobs, the lower powered backpack leaf blowers are minimally sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876162) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:53 PM Author: Appetizing center double fault why are you running around with some sorry pink leafblower instead of riding around on a massive mulching hog while drinking a beer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877716) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: Beady-eyed Idiotic Headpube Rigor The lower powered leaf blowers are a waste of time for anything beyond blowing around grass clippings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876146) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:21 PM Author: Abusive mad-dog skullcap LOL. With a tiny lot like that you don't need a leaf blower.
If you're that much of a pansy about it, put a mulching blade on your mower and let the remnants rot in place. Your lawn will thank you for it. |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:27 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams I have like more than 10 full grown trees in my yard. It’s brutal in the fall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876111) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: Beady-eyed Idiotic Headpube Rigor I would seriously consider getting a leaf pickup attachment for a riding lawnmower. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876153) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:42 PM Author: alcoholic light school just let the leaves rot away naturally, like in the forest. it's good for wildlife and for the soil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876217) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:02 PM Author: Magenta exhilarant nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876337) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:22 PM Author: Aggressive Boltzmann Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876424) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:52 PM Author: Flesh Spectacular Locale LOL "reptile" here concerned about "carbon" lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876281) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: Bipolar juggernaut “carbon bill” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877674) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: Abusive mad-dog skullcap 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876049) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:27 PM Author: Aggressive Boltzmann Stage Why not just set a max carbon footprint each californian can leave every year, and if they exceed that heavy fines are imposed. That would make it clear that people with 5000 square foot homes taking chartered jets release exponentially more green house gasses than your average californian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876110) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:28 PM Author: Talented sepia shrine for that very reason b/c rich faggots are niggers who like to CRUSH the poormos under any premise |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:29 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown Because the goal is not to penalize the rich -- just the upper middle class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876120) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: Cordovan sticky volcanic crater Bro, this isn't about global carbon pollution. It's about local air pollution from particulate matter, benzene, and formaldehyde. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876150) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:31 PM Author: Cordovan sticky volcanic crater While California often is a trend-setter in environmental regulation, other states won’t be following its lead this time. After California expanded its regulations in 2003, industry officials went to Congress to try to block the state’s authority to impose tougher-than-federal standards for small off-road engines. California managed to keep its authority to set such standards but, under a legislative compromise, other states were barred from doing the same. https://www.kcet.org/shows/socal-connected/california-throttles-down-pollution-from-small-engines Other states EMISSIONSCUCKED. |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: Aquamarine nibblets those things spew out a lot of exhaust fumes/vapors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876156) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:43 PM Author: Cordovan sticky volcanic crater Back in 2011, car reviewer Edmunds carried out an experiment comparing the emissions of a big Ford truck (an F-150 Raptor with a 411-horsepower V8 engine) to two different leaf blowers (one four-stroke and one two-stroke). They found that compared to the Ford truck, the four-stroke blower produced 6.8 times as much oxides of nitrogen (nitric oxide and nitrogen dioxide, highly reactive combustion byproducts that help form near-surface ozone, acid rain, and smog), 13.5 times as much carbon monoxide, and over 36 times as much non-methane hydrocarbons (mostly unburned gas, which is poisonous and carcinogenic). The two-stroke was substantially worse, producing only twice the oxides of nitrogen, but 23 times as much carbon monoxide and 299 times the non-methane hydrocarbons. They concluded:
To equal the hydrocarbon emissions of about a half-hour of yard work with this two-stroke leaf blower, you'd have to drive a Raptor for 3,887 miles, or the distance from Northern Texas to Anchorage, Alaska. [Edmunds] http://theweek.com/articles/739688/government-must-regulate-lawn-equipment-seriously |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:46 PM Author: Aggressive Boltzmann Stage That is pretty bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876244) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:07 PM Author: tan buck-toothed temple yarmulke 6.8 times what?? Per hour? per gallon? per year of estimated use? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876362) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:10 PM Author: Territorial Piazza Yeah fuck this shit. Get a rake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876376) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: spruce heady state If this is true, then "hydrocarbon emissions" are complete flame as a means of measuring pollution.
3,887 miles in an f150 is about 200 gallons of gas. I'm supposed to believe a quart of gas in a leaf blower emits several dozen times more pollution? |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:21 PM Author: irradiated chestnut candlestick maker That doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Auto engines are much more sophisticated and have catalytic converters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876422) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:22 PM Author: Puce heaven doctorate yeah it's almost like emission control systems do something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876425) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:40 PM Author: spruce heady state lmao if you think running a leaf blower for 60 seconds emits more pollution than driving a huge truck from coast to coast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876540) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: razzle hall pistol flame. if this were true then how did people live in the 1950s? no pollution controls and LEADED gasoline FFS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876823) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:23 PM Author: irradiated chestnut candlestick maker By the 60s and 70s, air pollution was a massive problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876876) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: razzle hall pistol yeah LA smog and all that but if primitive emission controls = 50000x more emissions then the shit they suppress isn't very dangerous at all lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876906) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:47 PM Author: Puce heaven doctorate good. and the faggots who run these loud ass things elsewhere because they are too fucking fat and worthless to pick up a fucking rake can get gassed along with the shitpits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876250) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:52 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams (Not a homeowner with a yard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876278) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:55 PM Author: Puce heaven doctorate (fat ass lazy prole who enjoys being a nuisance and destroying the planet) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876296) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:33 PM Author: copper university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876474) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:37 PM Author: Puce heaven doctorate ^ how to be a deranged super adamant pro-life shitcon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876514) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:55 PM Author: Cerebral Mentally Impaired Principal's Office Generalized Bond having dry leaf litter around will only help reduce California wildfires!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876294) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:57 PM Author: Beady-eyed Idiotic Headpube Rigor I wish SCOTUS would revisit its dormant commerce clause jurisprudence and pwn the fuck out of these California environmental regulations. Californians managed to fuck up gas cans, of all things, for the rest of us with their inane regulations. Enough is enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876305) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:00 PM Author: Cordovan sticky volcanic crater They have a GRANDFATHER clause. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876322) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:01 PM Author: concupiscible sadistic clown You can tell how this board has aged when a leaf blower thread is the highlight of the day. LJL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876332) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:03 PM Author: Magenta exhilarant nursing home 180 maybe ill move back. Used to be woken up by these fucking things every morning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876340) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:05 PM Author: irradiated chestnut candlestick maker How do they compare to lawnmowers and trimmers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876349) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: irradiated chestnut candlestick maker "We expect that ozone-contributing pollutants from small off-road engines will exceed those same emissions from cars around the 2020 time frame," Benjamin says.
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That sounds like an issue worth addressing to me. |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:14 PM Author: Cordovan sticky volcanic crater (anti rolling coal cuck) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876389) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:14 PM Author: spruce heady state It's fake. There is no fucking way that is possibly true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876391) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:24 PM Author: vigorous chrome chapel I have never been sorry that I left California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876427) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:31 PM Author: copper university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876462) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:38 PM Author: spruce heady state Libs are coming for those next. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876524) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:38 PM Author: Marvelous Duck-like Market Overlap between leaf blower$ and mantit juice factory meat football fags? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876522) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:15 PM Author: Vibrant menage main people guys who get anal about their yard are 100% producing more estrogen than their wife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876788) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:18 PM Author: Marvelous Duck-like Market cr real men have forests or prairies and shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876819) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: soul-stirring carnelian hospital laser beams sorry libs, but the convenience of starting up my leaf blower and blowing off my entire driveway before work (roughly 150 feet) in like 3 minutes >>>>>> your "carbon footprint" arguments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876937) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:44 PM Author: Magenta exhilarant nursing home You must have a shitty lawn, mulching is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877024) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:54 PM Author: cyan wild wrinkle I was recently thinking about buying a small, battery powered leaf blower for blowing off my deck, driveway and garage - it would not be very powerful, but I leave the yard removal to the Mexicans. But, in just a few years, California's idiocy is likely to spread east, so I might as well get a full powered gas one now before it is too late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877093) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:59 PM Author: ultramarine ticket booth California is the Mecca of posturing shitlibs. Measures like this are passed more to make a statement about just how shitlib people can become rather than actually helping anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877112) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 7:10 PM Author: cyan wild wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877836) |