ITS JUST A WASTE OF MONEY: CHINESE STUDENTS REGRET ENROLLING IN US UNIVERSITI
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Date: December 12th, 2017 5:19 PM Author: Maize point
http://www.weareresonate.com/2017/12/just-waste-money-chinese-students-regret-enrolling-in-us-universities-ivy-league/
"Unless you can go to Ivy League schools, don't bother to come to the US."
International Chinese students have expressed regret in choosing to study at American universities.
The Ministry of Education reported that 544,500 Chinese students went abroad to study in 2016, with the US being the top choice. According to Global Times, a number of these students are regretting their choice.
Roy Zhang is one such student, who had dreamt to study in America. Fulfilling his dream by attending one of the country’s top 30 universities, he is now regretting it.
“Studying abroad is like a siege; the people outside of the city want to get in, and at the same time, the men inside the city want to get out,” Zhang said.
“I lost so much studying in the US, and some of what I lost is irretrievable. Also, I don’t think the results can pay back what my family invested in my study abroad.”
Academically, Zhang is excelling and could have enrolled in a top Chinese university such as Zhejiang University or other universities in Shanghai, but he instead opted for America. For Zhang, the trade-off is simply not worth it.
“If you can go to a top 10 university or a universities participating in project 211 or project 985, don’t come to the US and settle for a top 30 university,” Zhang said. “You will find that the quality of your classmates are generally lower, and your chances of making useful business connections are fewer.”
“You will never get to see what real elites are like and are not able to blend into the mainstream community in the US.”
He would encourage other students to forget about coming to the US to study unless they were incredibly rich.
“My advice is that unless you can go to Ivy League schools or good universities in big cities like New York and Los Angeles, don’t bother to come to the US because it’s just a waste of money,” he said.
“The reality is that I am going to a university that is not as good as the one I could have gone to in China, and our family is out 2 million yuan ($302,000).”
Hang Wei graduated with a bachelor’s degree in media from Purdue University two years ago but regrets it.
“I didn’t have a clear goal. I did not know what I wanted to achieve when I decided to study overseas, so I just came back with an average degree and slightly better English language skills,” Hang said.
She found that her experience in the US did not provide her with an advantage over other domestic students and shares Zhang’s concern about the burden of debt.
“When I came back, I didn’t have any advantages over domestic students in the job market,” she said. “I earn 7,000 yuan a month, just like most recent graduates from local universities.”
“I don’t know whether I can ever repay what my parents invested in my study. I feel so guilty that I spent so much of my parents’ money, and my parents have to live paycheck to paycheck to support me.”
Instead, Hang feels the money would have been better spent elsewhere.
“We should have used that money to buy an apartment in Beijing, which would’ve yielded better financial returns. But we can’t because the money is gone,” she said.
Xi Yingzhi, a freshman at a small town university in the US, expressed security concerns. Because she opted for cheaper rent and a quieter study environment, she has to commute to class by bus.
“In winter, after 7 pm, the whole town just shuts down leaving just dim street lamps and barely any people. I always get scared and lonely, and when other people look at me, I hold my bag tightly to my chest and walk as fast as I can,” Xia said.
“After the abduction and shooting incidents, I got even more scared and even slipped into depression. I go to campus counseling from time to time.”
In July 2017, 26-year-old Yingying Zhang, who attended University of Illinois, went missing. It has been assumed that she was kidnapped and law enforcement believe she is “no longer alive”.
According to Zhang Fan, a manager at kmf.com – an institution that coaches students who plan to study overseas – Chinese students and parents abandon who fear security issues tend to forget their study-abroad plan entirely.
“Many potential students just abandon their plan to study overseas, not just plans to go to the US, other countries as well,” Zhang said.
However, he also added that most of the students who study abroad go through a rough patch but never regret their overall experience.
“My students have moments of regret, like when they can’t sleep for days because they have a deadline to meet or their American flatmate smokes marijuana all day and makes their dorm all stinky,”he said. “But in the end, they never regret the experience of being able to study and live in another country.”
Nonetheless, concerns by Chinese students are having an effect on statistics. According to NBC, the US is facing a drop in international students. Nearly 40% of the schools reported a significant drop in applicants from China, India and the Middle East according to a report by the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers.
Last month, a parliamentary report found that 90% of Chinese students would reconsider studying in the UK due to government neglect.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34900816)
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Date: December 12th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: dun stimulating mediation
"“You will never get to see what real elites are like and are not able to blend into the mainstream community in the US.”"
sup brady"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34900829) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: Nubile bat-shit-crazy prole address
"When I came back, I didn’t have any advantages over domestic students in the job market,” she said. “I earn 7,000 yuan a month, just like most recent graduates from local universities.”
Brutal.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34900831) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 5:27 PM Author: Floppy opaque turdskin
“My students have moments of regret, like when they can’t sleep for days because... their American flatmate smokes marijuana all day..."
*goes to bumblefuck U expecting Plato's Academy*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34900867) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 5:51 PM Author: multi-colored sapphire business firm
hey academia,
maybe you can stop admitting chinks, cut tuition, fire administrators, and stop building fancy buildings?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901065) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 6:03 PM Author: Beady-eyed ruddy rehab
I don’t feel bad for these students and their parents one bit. Chinese are prestige and status obsessed and think studying in the US is bragworthy. There’s also a fallout from the one child policy where the only child feels incredibly entitled and parents cater to their every whim and financially break themselves to support their only kid.
Thing is, if you’re smart, you will succeed going to a Chinese university the same as going to a US university. My cousin went to a top Shanghai university and later got his masters in engineering at Cornell and soon realized he didn’t need that masters to get a job in the US. But at least my uncle’s rich so it didn’t matter.
The problem is when the parents paying aren’t rich. My step brother got an accounting masters at WUSTL and before applying, I told him not to do it because his English was terrible and he wouldn’t be able to compete for jobs in the US and he could already apply for jobs in HK and China if he wanted to. Ignored all my advice and went ahead anyway because my dad was paying and now he’s jobless and back in HK. I had to rewrite all his admissions essays because they were completely grammatically wrong like “I want study in US so I be financier in bank.” Fucking joke.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901121) |
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Date: December 12th, 2017 6:12 PM Author: galvanic kitty
Even on websites that support Chinese, if you type english while in pinyin mode, your punctuation marks will look different.
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901185) |
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Date: December 13th, 2017 1:12 AM Author: Beady-eyed ruddy rehab
Excerpt from an essay:
Life consists of a number of transitions that are shaping experiences for us. As for me, there have been several crucial transitions generating pivotal impact on me till now.
The first transition happened in 2008 when I made up my mind to leave for Hong Kong to attend Hong Kong Community College (HKCC), a subsidiary of the Hong Kong Polytechnic University (PolyU). At that time, I had lived in Shanghai for almost 20 years and got accustomed to everything in this charming city, therefore, leaving for Hong Kong meant a lot of uncertainties and unknown things. Moreover, because I failed to get admitted into the PolyU directly, I must attend the HKCC to pursue an Associate degree at first. And if everything goes well, I may continue my study at PolyU for a bachelor degree after graduating from HKCC. However, in the past, HKCC students from mainland seldom succeeded in winning a space at PolyU due to the harsh cumulative GPA requirement and limit of quota. Nevertheless, after a careful consideration, I still decided to start my undergraduate study at Hong Kong because on one hand I really want to appreciate the glamour of this developed financial center in Far East Region, on the other hand, I want to live a challenging life in my youth.
After arriving in Hong Kong, I found that this city had already been preoccupied with skyscrapers and tens of metro lines.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34906043) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 6:11 PM Author: galvanic kitty
back in my parents days, all exchange students are really of top caliber, who received scholarships and grants to do graduate level studies abroad.
Now days it's just rich kids, and middle class pretending to be rich kids.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901177) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 6:23 PM Author: Garnet love of her life
You mean that out of a half million Chinese exchange students, some of them had a bad experience?
And in the case of this one, it looks like thought she was going to find her HANDSOME in West Lafayette, Indiana...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901251) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 6:28 PM Author: Awkward School Cafeteria Private Investor
SERIOUSLY LOLing@ this article. but there is nothing new in that article.
but this is why NYUUG is so FUCKING AWESOME. everyone knows that int students who go back to their home countries get shit on for their shit pure shit US degrees.
but i am fucking AWESOME because i got a degree in Korea and that has opened more doors for me and more pussy than my US degree.
i basically hacked the entire goddamn system and pwn at life.
Gangnam WGWAG Fuckboy NEVER NOT pwning souls
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901296) |
Date: December 12th, 2017 6:41 PM Author: canary shivering space
Hang Wei graduated with a bachelor’s degree in media from Purdue University two years ago but regrets it.
Hang Wei graduated with a bachelor’s degree in media from Purdue University two years ago but regrets it.
Hang Wei graduated with a bachelor’s degree in media from Purdue University two years ago but regrets it.
Hang Wei graduated with a bachelor’s degree in media from Purdue University two years ago but regrets it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34901391)
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Date: December 13th, 2017 1:05 AM Author: Wonderful flesh indian lodge
“You will never get to see what real elites are like and are not able to blend into the mainstream community in the US.”
Yea the blame for international Chinese students not assimilating to American life lies solely with the colleges
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34906007) |
Date: December 13th, 2017 4:26 PM Author: Submissive parlor pozpig
this is like straight out of an xoxo NOWAG-prestige obsessed parody thread.
“If you can go to a top 10 university or a universities participating in project 211 or project 985, don’t come to the US and settle for a top 30 university,” Zhang said. “You will find that the quality of your classmates are generally lower, and your chances of making useful business connections are fewer.”
“You will never get to see what real elites are like and are not able to blend into the mainstream community in the US.”
He would encourage other students to forget about coming to the US to study unless they were incredibly rich.
“My advice is that unless you can go to Ivy League schools or good universities in big cities like New York and Los Angeles, don’t bother to come to the US because it’s just a waste of money,” he said.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3826309&forum_id=2#34910986) |
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