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PN got hit with a DUI :(((

googled him to look for the mugshot.. his list of charges no...
insecure field
  12/15/17
180
Motley black woman principal's office
  12/15/17
i've probably driven drunk a couple hundred times. how do yo...
insecure field
  12/15/17
By being drunk drunk and not buzzed
cerebral circlehead
  12/15/17
lol i've been legit drunk plenty, but never blackout or anyt...
insecure field
  12/15/17
I hope you have a brain aneurysm tonight.
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my theory is there's two types of people: first one knows...
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insecure field
  12/15/17
cr. always the texting/lighting a cigarette/fucking around w...
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and it's the first type who get pulled over (over correcting...
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  12/15/17
Flame
disgusting sandwich
  12/15/17
alcohol = poison
charismatic plaza pistol
  12/15/17
does TTTexas have checkpoints? where do they put them?
insecure field
  12/15/17
0% chance it was a roadblock
disturbing flickering national
  12/15/17
if youre drunk at one of those checkpoints isn't it best to ...
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  12/16/17
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  12/15/17
"the driver incomprehensibly muttered something about '...
outnumbered tattoo
  12/15/17
Good. He's a psychopath gook deserving of no sympathy.
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  12/15/17
he's paki. Asian but not oriental
charismatic plaza pistol
  12/15/17
"Oriental" includes all of Asia and the Middle Eas...
brilliant razzle-dazzle fanboi clown
  12/15/17
Fuhlame
scarlet hideous resort
  12/15/17
Wrong, oriental refers humans with an ethnic background asso...
charismatic plaza pistol
  12/15/17
No orient definitely picks up Pakistan An oriental rug fo...
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  12/15/17
the racial desriptor "oriental" does not insist on...
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That sucks. Everyone has driven drunk before. I've always ca...
Apoplectic sanctuary
  12/15/17
you monster.
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we do not drive drunk
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Comical Bearded Death Wish Hospital
  12/15/17
Correct. We drive buzzed.
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this whole "clean cut/responsible/straight edged = alph...
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  06/22/20
does PN appear to you to be the kind of stable person who sh...
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  12/15/17
So are we just following this guy's every movement now? You ...
turquoise stage
  12/15/17
this could have happened "years" ago. i was just l...
insecure field
  12/15/17
it's what he does to many poasters
Titillating cerise piazza
  12/15/17
remember when he made threats against the POTUS?
Comical Bearded Death Wish Hospital
  12/15/17
We've discussed this many times. That was earl
cerebral circlehead
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Motley black woman principal's office
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  10/15/18
Hearty lol @ this deranged turdskin
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If I already had assault on my record, I probably wouldn't b...
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Fragrant sable feces kitchen
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Typical Cornell grad
scarlet hideous resort
  12/15/17
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!
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  12/15/17
lmao
Pearl theatre
  12/15/17
PN is 180
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Cr
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misunderstood parlor
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lol @ the civic nationalism cucks on this board. PN is a dis...
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Shut your mouth. PN is one of the greatest content creators ...
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Odious potus
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(cocksucking faggot)
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whatever you do the rest of the night. just shut your fucki...
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disturbing flickering national
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Motley black woman principal's office
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Which hot xmas gift did they dress him in this time?
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  12/15/17
How has he not been deported yet
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insecure field
  05/22/20
Meh. I voluntarily put an interlock on my car because I mak...
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What color blanket do they give for second offenders
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:00 AM
Author: insecure field

googled him to look for the mugshot.. his list of charges now include DUI on top of assault causing bodily injury to family member

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926545)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Motley black woman principal's office

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926554)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: insecure field

i've probably driven drunk a couple hundred times. how do you let yourself get caught?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926566)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:04 AM
Author: cerebral circlehead

By being drunk drunk and not buzzed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926574)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: insecure field

lol i've been legit drunk plenty, but never blackout or anything. you just gotta fight the temptation to speed and drive aggressively. i will admit it's not easy, but usually i have people in the car to keep me honest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926607)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:21 PM
Author: mischievous mental disorder

I hope you have a brain aneurysm tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930726)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:33 PM
Author: charismatic plaza pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930804)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Marvelous trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932249)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: bateful burgundy goyim sneaky criminal

my theory is there's two types of people:

first one knows they're drunk and does everything possible to not swerve or speed.

second one is so relaxed because they're drunk they don't have a care in the world and they're worried about the radio or texting someone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926606)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:11 AM
Author: insecure field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926637)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: Overrated lodge gaping

cr. always the texting/lighting a cigarette/fucking around with the radio/talking on the phone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926648)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: Dun pungent theater stage

and it's the first type who get pulled over (over correcting their steering, panicking at cops etc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927275)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:54 PM
Author: disgusting sandwich

Flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927414)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: charismatic plaza pistol

alcohol = poison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926652)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:16 AM
Author: insecure field

does TTTexas have checkpoints? where do they put them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926655)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:55 PM
Author: disturbing flickering national

0% chance it was a roadblock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932231)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:18 AM
Author: Opaque splenetic organic girlfriend

if youre drunk at one of those checkpoints isn't it best to ditch the car and flee on foot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932397)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Impressive mexican



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: outnumbered tattoo

"the driver incomprehensibly muttered something about 'spaceporn' which he blamed for his drunkenness."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926683)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: Alcoholic twinkling center affirmative action

Good. He's a psychopath gook deserving of no sympathy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926700)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: charismatic plaza pistol

he's paki. Asian but not oriental

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926703)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: brilliant razzle-dazzle fanboi clown

"Oriental" includes all of Asia and the Middle East

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927402)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:32 PM
Author: scarlet hideous resort

Fuhlame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930480)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:54 PM
Author: charismatic plaza pistol

Wrong, oriental refers humans with an ethnic background associated with the "far east" only

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930576)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:31 PM
Author: Silver alpha double fault

No orient definitely picks up Pakistan

An oriental rug for example includes a rug made in Pakistan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930791)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:36 PM
Author: charismatic plaza pistol

the racial desriptor "oriental" does not insist on a reference to the geographic area "orient" anymore than the racial descriptor "indian" for elizabeth warren refers to India. It is a term that means people with gray skin, black bowlcuts, and narrow eye openings, same as "white" means a caucasian person and "black" means a black guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930820)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:27 AM
Author: gold hairraiser bbw house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926755)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: Apoplectic sanctuary

That sucks. Everyone has driven drunk before. I've always called DUI a crime of bad luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926709)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:24 AM
Author: Comical Bearded Death Wish Hospital

you monster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926720)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: charismatic plaza pistol

we do not drive drunk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926738)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: gold hairraiser bbw house



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: Comical Bearded Death Wish Hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926764)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:32 PM
Author: scarlet hideous resort

Correct. We drive buzzed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930485)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:42 PM
Author: zippy dashing digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930531)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: Lemon talented theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932430)



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Date: June 22nd, 2020 1:53 PM
Author: Cordovan flirting institution

this whole "clean cut/responsible/straight edged = alpha" shtick you run is really grating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#40473370)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: gold hairraiser bbw house

does PN appear to you to be the kind of stable person who should be driving under the influence? a kid who couldn't handle his drugs and beat his own father as a result?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926773)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: turquoise stage

So are we just following this guy's every movement now? You guys are creepy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926729)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: insecure field

this could have happened "years" ago. i was just looking for a 180 xo meme

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34926803)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Titillating cerise piazza

it's what he does to many poasters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927079)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Comical Bearded Death Wish Hospital

remember when he made threats against the POTUS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927256)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: cerebral circlehead

We've discussed this many times.

That was earl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927356)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: Motley black woman principal's office



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Date: October 15th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Primrose rehab dopamine



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:54 PM
Author: Odious potus

Hearty lol @ this deranged turdskin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927409)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: razzmatazz french chef base

If I already had assault on my record, I probably wouldn't be too concerned about having a DUI as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34927425)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: Fragrant sable feces kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930477)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:33 PM
Author: scarlet hideous resort

Typical Cornell grad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930488)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:33 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Vermilion Lay Ape

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930491)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:41 PM
Author: Pearl theatre

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930521)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:07 PM
Author: Frisky cruise ship electric furnace

PN is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930635)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:13 PM
Author: thriller ultramarine home background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930679)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: multi-colored fluffy cuckoldry

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930734)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: misunderstood parlor



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:41 PM
Author: effete jew athletic conference

lol @ the civic nationalism cucks on this board. PN is a disgusting turdskin bringing crime to ARE nation. he needs to be forcibly deported back to his shitskin country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930864)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:02 PM
Author: multi-colored fluffy cuckoldry

Shut your mouth. PN is one of the greatest content creators in xo history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34931007)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: Racy box office persian



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Odious potus



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: ruby forum voyeur

(cocksucking faggot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932237)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:57 PM
Author: Orchid Lascivious Filthpig Brunch

he is 180. sorry about your tiny pink content creation skills, faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932243)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: Wonderful liquid oxygen

whatever you do the rest of the night. just shut your fucking mouth.

Don't think. Just shut your fucking mouth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932439)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: disturbing flickering national



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Motley black woman principal's office



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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:15 PM
Author: Supple trump supporter party of the first part

Which hot xmas gift did they dress him in this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34930697)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Marvelous trailer park

How has he not been deported yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932254)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Heady flatulent genital piercing ladyboy



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:22 PM
Author: insecure field



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:18 AM
Author: Wonderful liquid oxygen

Meh. I voluntarily put an interlock on my car because I make bad decisions when drunk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932395)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Nofapping At-the-ready Headpube Fat Ankles

What color blanket do they give for second offenders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932413)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Motley black woman principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932419)



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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Wonderful liquid oxygen

Hot pink, with periwinkle undertones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#34932421)



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Date: December 24th, 2017 9:04 AM
Author: insecure field



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Date: January 20th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Saffron gas station internal respiration



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Date: October 15th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Fragrant sable feces kitchen



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Date: October 15th, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Duck-like Hominid

Lol at how his mugshot is the FIRST pic when you google his name loooool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#37027651)



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Date: October 15th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Comical Bearded Death Wish Hospital

bump 4 diesel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830033&forum_id=2#37027729)



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Date: July 18th, 2019 2:19 AM
Author: aggressive peach market antidepressant drug



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:18 PM
Author: insecure field



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Date: June 22nd, 2020 1:48 PM
Author: insecure field



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Date: June 22nd, 2020 1:53 PM
Author: Cordovan flirting institution

mr. fernandes....back again i see

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Date: June 22nd, 2020 2:03 PM
Author: exhilarant ticket booth goal in life

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