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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:20 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house I just finished doing my law firm books for 2017 and I netted $1,326,000. Any settlements the last couple weeks of the year will be pushed to 2018, so this is pretty much it for this year. Here is summary of my taxes:
According to my CPA here is my breakdown: 765K after taxes 136K to state income tax 425K to federal income tax
Firm Statistics Total files: 283 Files in litigation: 41 Settlement: 85.5% of cases settle prelit New files per month: 25-30
I paid off my house earlier this year. Our plan right now is to max out my SEP (54K) and my wife's 401K (18K) (which we have already been doing for years), and everything left above 100K (for a buffer) will be used to buy real estate. Wife works in-house as a lawyer and makes 120K + plus a 5-10K bonus.
It's kind of crazy how much I pay in taxes, but I feel like I do all the deductions I can without exposing myself to significant liability if audited. Although open to ideas (I already write off property tax, retirement, child care, health savings account, one business vehicle, cable, auto insurance, cell phone, new computers, office improvements, a reasonable amount of travel/meals/entertainment for business, etc).
Taking questions. |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:40 AM Author: wonderful pit legend You're still young! You can make it at any age! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934570) |
Date: December 15th, 2017 11:23 AM Author: garnet indian lodge Coppin' the right kind of investment RE will possibly let you use depreciation and other stuff to your advantage and shield more $ from taxes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926704) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:24 AM Author: Flesh sneaky criminal rehab Introducing the XO winery: Chateau 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926715) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:33 AM Author: milky old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926807) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Burgundy Judgmental Useless Brakes Field There was a thread a few months ago where we were talking about doing an artisinal cider business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926851) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Flesh sneaky criminal rehab Hard Fork Cider (a subsidiary of Crypto Gainz LP) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926867) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:44 AM Author: Burgundy Judgmental Useless Brakes Field That just sounds like 4 loko in cider form. This was more like taking the brix of the apples so that they are harvested at the right time, having different varietals, aging in French Oak.
I wonder if it is possible to make an ice wine like thing with apples. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:45 AM Author: Flesh sneaky criminal rehab Interesting idea re ice wine. I'd think it would be, mechanism should be the same. Wonder how it would compare to Lambic beer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926899) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:47 AM Author: Burgundy Judgmental Useless Brakes Field I am guessing there is an issue b/c apples are denser and have lower surface area/volume than grapes. But you could just take the mash and freeze it in a factory.
Lambic beer is just stuff brewed with wild lactobacteria, right? |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:49 AM Author: Flesh sneaky criminal rehab Yeah. Apparently I've been having the TTT overly sweet kind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926923) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:05 PM Author: Burgundy Judgmental Useless Brakes Field Cali Dunkin Donuts Guru (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927036) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:23 AM Author: Flesh sneaky criminal rehab Biz. development deduction? Asset that generates impairment losses? Take whatever you think reasonable meals etc. are and triple those deductions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926707) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:27 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house The biggest issue is that I keep my overhead extremely low. I usually do like one nice meal a month with friends and my wife which is business development ($500+). I don't really spend money on biz dev lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926751) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:29 AM Author: Flesh sneaky criminal rehab That party you threw alone you had to hire the MC who charges a high hourly rate I hear, get the venue catering etc.
BTW congrats on the fantastic year, here's to another '18. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:32 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Lol. My party was about $3,000 with everything. My friend owns the laser tag facility (I've been playing there since 95) and basically let me rent out the place at cost ($850). The majority of the money was spent tipping the girls who work there ($140/each), buying food ($1,300), and doing my raffle ($600). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926797) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:24 AM Author: Chocolate quadroon I'm hoping for between 750 and 1 mil next year. Congrats. Running between 150-175 cases. Significantly lower pre-lit settlement %. Mediating my biggest case ever this pm, which will count towards next year.
Qs: What helped make the jump from ~100-150 cases to where you are now? I've kind of plateau'd where I am.
Do you have an associate? How much support staff? What do you pay them? |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:28 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Good luck. What city are you in? If LA who is the mediator? I have several 7 figure cases in my pipeline that should settle next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926770) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:03 PM Author: Chocolate quadroon not Cali but Federal Court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927017) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:25 AM Author: Orange Swashbuckling Turdskin 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926735) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:25 AM Author: Chest-beating marvelous hospital set up a home office (so dont pay off your house) and deduct that plus util, internet, commuting, etc.
will not be a huge number but every little bit helps |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:28 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Too late, I paid off my mortgage in March. I already deduct my internet, cell phone, car, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926758) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:05 PM Author: Chest-beating marvelous hospital Make your next property your home office
Can also deduct electricity, garbage etc |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:31 AM Author: Aphrodisiac step-uncle's house What does pre-litigation mean here, without having to file suit at all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926786) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:32 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Yes, without a lawsuit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926800) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:32 AM Author: milky old irish cottage Moving to TX fixes state income tax, and has lower COL as well... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926802) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:34 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house But I would have no income. I guess I could just retire with 3 million to Austin, but I would rather live in LA. All my family and friends live here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926812) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:39 AM Author: big costumed water buffalo degenerate Pro tip: do not under any circumstances move to Austin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926839) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Why not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926850) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:41 AM Author: milky old irish cottage Buncha shitlibs and weird ass people. Also higher COL than elsewhere, and has shitty city gov. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926863) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:41 AM Author: milky old irish cottage nah wait awhile before moving. but do it eventually. Guns, land, low COL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926854) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house I would never move from LA. My house is paid off and I'll have 10 million in investable assets by the time I'm 40. I can just stay here and stop working in 6 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926871) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:44 AM Author: milky old irish cottage eh, fair enough. Like LA in general? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926878) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:51 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house I live in the San Fernando Valley. I hate the actual city. Too crowded and parking sucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926930) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:34 AM Author: Aphrodisiac step-uncle's house And probably crushes the income.
Isn't California plaintiff friendly? |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Narrow-minded Spot Hominid how many solos do you know who have just flamed out of the profession or aren't doing well? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926849) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house I know several who flamed out and ended up as an associate somewhere. Most don't do well because they do shitty work and rely on paid marketing for clients. So they have low settlements and high acquisition costs. I'm the opposite. I do great work and no paid marketing. So my margins are crazy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926864) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:55 AM Author: Contagious well-lubricated library Can you ask your CPA about paying your 2018 estimated CA state taxes in 2017 since SALT is going away?
See this thread:
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:04 PM Author: Out-of-control mexican house I actually JUST did that right now. I paid 130K for 2018 literally 30 seconds ago.
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:59 AM Author: Jet hairraiser candlestick maker Love hearing about the practice bro. I am sure you have addressed this previously but do you have a biglaw background? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34926977) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:05 PM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Summered at a big firm 2L year. Hated it and got no offered because I left every day early and didn't go to most of the summer associate events. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927031) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:09 PM Author: Jet hairraiser candlestick maker What moment in your legal career are you most proud of? Some brilliant procedural move? Closing argument? Seeing your clients' lives change after a big win/settlement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927062) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:11 PM Author: Out-of-control mexican house I settled a case for a bit over 2 million for a widow whose husband was killed in a head on collision. The other party only had 100K policy but we found a road defect from construction and got almost 2 mil from the construction company/city. I changed that woman's life. She was an old Hispanic lady who never worked and spoke no English. Without me she would have been destitute. It felt really good to help someone that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927084) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:15 PM Author: Jet hairraiser candlestick maker Incredible. Must have felt almost as good as when I caught that missing comma in the credit agreement for the joint bookrunners on this subordinated debt deal. Wouldn't trade that experience for the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927112) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 12:20 PM Author: Contagious well-lubricated library What sort of RE are you looking to buy? Are you looking to rent it out or flip it? Id like to get into RE since we don’t want to only put money into the stock market, but it’s a tough market right now given how high it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927147) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 1:37 PM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Multifamily and NNN commercial. Cap rates suck right now but rents keep going up. As long as you buy young and hold for decades you can't really overpay. LA real estate will double again in 10 years anyways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34927745) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:42 PM Author: Spruce pontificating locus I will. Do you already know who I am, or would this out me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34928728) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:48 PM Author: Out-of-control mexican house 3 BTC and 25 ETH.
Not a lot but my basis is like 15K. I didn't get in until a couple months ago. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:33 PM Author: razzle fighting juggernaut senate 180 friend.
have you thought about buying up some residential property and renting it out to take advantage of the mortgage tax deduction? 180 way to take advantage of savings because the rent and property tax + interest more or less balance out.
if you leave a room vacant, you can claim it as a second house or something |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:34 PM Author: fiercely-loyal bawdyhouse main people so you "netted" 765K (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34929737) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:43 PM Author: dull antidepressant drug queen of the night Next year you have to make a lot more to net the same amount with the new tax bill. Yay! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34929810) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:55 PM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Pass through income may be taxed at 20% next year. I would pay way less in taxes. I work my ass off, it's really shitty that I pay so much as it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34930275) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: Talented at-the-ready friendly grandma last i heard the 20% break is not available for service professionals who earn over 500K (hard cliff) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34931985) |
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Edit: 315k now |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Talented at-the-ready friendly grandma you need a better CPA if he's not suggesting tax strategies. there is a lot of shit you can do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34932021) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 12:48 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Give me some ideas. I read a lot about taxes and it seems like my CPA is doing all the right things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34932589) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house How much can I dump into that in a year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934431) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:16 AM Author: gay razzmatazz brunch gay wizard 1.2 million or something like that. Need to hire a reputable accounting firm (there are a few), cost is about 5% of amount you put in due to setup/fees/audit protection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934450) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:18 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Interesting, I'll look into that. Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934459) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:33 AM Author: gay razzmatazz brunch gay wizard There's a financial guy I know in LA that probably does it or has a contact that sets them up all the time. What is your email, I can send you his info. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934533) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934569) |
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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3933697&forum_id=2#35739012 |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 9:15 AM Author: Crystalline Nudist Athletic Conference Philosopher-king Pouring money into real estate sounds exhausting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34933942) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 10:51 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house There aren't that many places to pour money into for passive income. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934337) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:02 AM Author: Crystalline Nudist Athletic Conference Philosopher-king No doubt. Just seems like a fuckton of work for the near future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934390) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 9:23 AM Author: Heady harsh orchestra pit How did you build your PI practice without marketing brother? That seems to be the one area where advertising is everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34933974) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 10:55 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house 1. Be friendly to everyone you meet, let them know what you do, let them know how to reach you (business cards), and tell them a quick interesting story about a cool case. This is hard if you don't have social skills but it can be learned with practice. Almost identical to PUA skills. It's all a numbers game. If you talk to 10,000 people and 1% hires you, that's 100 clients. I even handed out some business cards at the XO meeting in LA a week ago (not to everyone though since a lot of them already had my contact info).
2. Do great work for your clients. Be responsive, professional, and make sure they love you when the case is done.
3. Give your clients your cell phone number and make them feel like family. I become very close with all my clients and talk to them like a friend, not their lawyer. When they refer me people they talk about me as not only a lawyer but a good person. Makes people excited to hire me.
This is pretty much all you need to do. Most attorneys treat their clients like shit, are impossible to reach, and do shitty work. It's really not that hard to stand out. |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 11:22 AM Author: Crystalline Nudist Athletic Conference Philosopher-king This is all credited advice whether you are shitlaw or biglaw. I am nice to everyone and tell everyone what I do. I’m biglaw so 99% of what comes my way I can’t take but I refer it out to my solo buddies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34934474) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:39 AM Author: Out-of-control mexican house Do your solo friends give you referral fees? I know some big firms discourage that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34940779) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:31 AM Author: Crystalline Nudist Athletic Conference Philosopher-king They would but Firm does not allow referral fees unless we actually work the case. Its cool though, I’ve had it come back to me. I currently have a complex commercial case that one of my bros referred me that’s in pre-lit stage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830045&forum_id=2#34941029) |