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Trump to end work eligibility for H1B spouses

They'd have to get their own visa to work Media flipping o...
house-broken set pervert
  12/15/17
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flesh galvanic institution
  12/15/17
The Department of Homeland Security announced its rollback o...
house-broken set pervert
  12/15/17
Seems counterproductive. We don't want to inflcentivize prod...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
Would seem to force the companies to pay more to make up for...
amber gaming laptop place of business
  12/15/17
I'm fine with that if there are Americans to fill all these ...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
it's bullshit. they just want foreigners because they can pa...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
I thought they couldn't pay them less?
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
less than what? the "market" wages which have con...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
No. Similarly situated employees in the company
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
so other wagecucks whose salaries haven't kept pace with inf...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
Agreed you need to balance providing companies the human res...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
most are IT drones and get paid dick, hardly high skilled. ...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
I work with a lot of H1Bs who make 100k+ in software enginee...
Flatulent indian lodge
  12/15/17
they should hire americans
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
They hire both, but there might be something to the claim th...
Flatulent indian lodge
  12/15/17
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Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
there also might be something to the claim that your claim i...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
There isn’t. There are a ton of American programmers. The on...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
That is a fair point too. It's a fucked up situation. No com...
Flatulent indian lodge
  12/15/17
“I don’t see many white American coders” What the fuck? I...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
At my company it's maybe 30% white and the rest Indian/Asian...
Flatulent indian lodge
  12/15/17
My current team is 100% white men. Last team was 12 white gu...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
Ok sounds like you're at an SV startup then. I'm east coast ...
Flatulent indian lodge
  12/15/17
Yeah but we aren't producing enough skilled people so here w...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
bullshit. we have what like 3000 universities in this count...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
That’s a lie.
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
All of the lower-rung H1B people in my company (<100 empl...
lake abusive office
  12/15/17
but these wives are not necessarily skilled. lot of them wor...
topaz old irish cottage
  12/15/17
Fair point if true. What explains your hostility would y...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
i am not hostile. maybe frustrated. the fact that your defau...
topaz old irish cottage
  12/15/17
I made an innocuous post curious about the issue. Relax swee...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
(innocuously defends every immigration loophole every single...
topaz old irish cottage
  12/15/17
...
Lavender Psychic
  12/15/17
...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
wow "sweetie" and "y u so ir8" in the sa...
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
Good article on it. Program needs to he more narrowly tailor...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
*ended completely
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
...
peach hyperactive quadroon selfie
  12/15/17
the rule was enacted in 2015. you dont think we attracted to...
topaz old irish cottage
  12/15/17
I don't believe the sky is falling. Just seems unnecessary.
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
thats because you dont really look at it from american worke...
topaz old irish cottage
  12/15/17
Depends. Some companies incur the cost of sponsoring a visa ...
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
Uhh the UK does bro
Bossy property hairy legs
  12/15/17
(fob)
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
think you need to check up on the definition of incentivize ...
Charismatic Boltzmann
  12/15/17
Or the spelling lmao
Purple step-uncle's house azn
  12/15/17
it's becoming blatantly clear that anything dubbed "Oba...
umber circlehead yarmulke
  12/15/17
CNN shitting themselves over it is also a good sign
Thriller queen of the night
  12/15/17
THEY HAVE TO GO BACK
kink-friendly temple
  12/15/17
...
Lavender Psychic
  12/15/17
...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
Why are we allowing their wives into the country in the firs...
arousing opaque kitty
  12/15/17
To keep pipe rapes to a minimum
amber gaming laptop place of business
  12/15/17
The entire h1b program should be scrapped. The only way you ...
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
because diversity, man
Scarlet resort dingle berry
  12/15/17
Anyone against ending this is a traitor to America hth
Hairraiser fantasy-prone range
  12/15/17
rofl
aromatic mustard half-breed
  12/15/17
Doesn't this just make NOT AMERICA more attractive for start...
aromatic mustard half-breed
  12/15/17


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Date: December 15th, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: house-broken set pervert

They'd have to get their own visa to work

Media flipping out saying they'll be "put back in golden cages" and their lives made "hell" ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928417)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: flesh galvanic institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928546)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:16 PM
Author: house-broken set pervert

The Department of Homeland Security announced its rollback of an Obama-era policy on Thursday

Dec 15, 2017 8:41 AM EST

A new Trump administration effort could prevent the spouses of highly skilled foreign workers from working legally in the U.S., according to a new statement from the Department of Homeland Security cited by CNN.

The plan concerns the spouses of those foreign nationals who hold H-1B visas, which go to individuals with jobs that require a “theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge.” In February 2015, the Obama administration decreed that such spouses could legally find work while in the U.S. in an effort to “reduce the economic burdens and personal stresses” of immigrants.

According to CNN, the Department of Homeland Security offered little context for its decision to reverse the Obama-era rule, citing only the new administration’s “America first” emphasis on immigration policy.

The Trump administration also plans to reevaluate and likely narrow the eligibility rules for H-1B visas, saying it wants “to increase focus on truly obtaining the best and brightest foreign nationals.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928541)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:20 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Seems counterproductive. We don't want to inflcentivize productive people coming here? Odd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928566)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: amber gaming laptop place of business

Would seem to force the companies to pay more to make up for it which would tip in favor of hiring Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928593)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

I'm fine with that if there are Americans to fill all these spots but companies often complain about skilled labor deficiencies in the US IIRC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928606)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

it's bullshit. they just want foreigners because they can pay them less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928614)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

I thought they couldn't pay them less?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928635)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

less than what? the "market" wages which have conveniently been stagnant for 20+ years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928675)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

No. Similarly situated employees in the company

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928746)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

so other wagecucks whose salaries haven't kept pace with inflation in part because of the flood of immigrant workers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928789)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Agreed you need to balance providing companies the human resources they need to thrive with ensuring a competitive labor market to increase wgaes but has wage growth in high skill industries been a problem? Lemme Google that brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928823)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

most are IT drones and get paid dick, hardly high skilled. really we should end these programs altogether. there's no reason that a country with as many universities as america shouldn't be able to produce enough "talent" for their $40K shitjobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928844)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:56 PM
Author: Flatulent indian lodge

I work with a lot of H1Bs who make 100k+ in software engineering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928858)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

they should hire americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928867)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: Flatulent indian lodge

They hire both, but there might be something to the claim that it's hard to find American coders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928885)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928891)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

there also might be something to the claim that your claim is a load of shit and these companies just don't want to train ppl or see salaries rise even higher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928920)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

There isn’t. There are a ton of American programmers. The only reason bigtech wants this program is to flood the market and keep wages down. The vast majority are making sub-60k, not 100k+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928925)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: Flatulent indian lodge

That is a fair point too. It's a fucked up situation. No company is going to voluntarily fall back in the rat race to appease American workers these days. But honestly, I don't see many white American coders. There are aspies like me who kind of fell into the field and then there are "normal" guys who play the status chasing game in law or finance. And then a large underclass of low skilled proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928968)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:09 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

“I don’t see many white American coders”

What the fuck? I know and work with a fuck ton. The vast majority of coders I’ve worked with have been white American males. There is no shortage. Stop carrying water for Mark Zuckerburg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928979)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:10 PM
Author: Flatulent indian lodge

At my company it's maybe 30% white and the rest Indian/Asian. Some Jews too. Just an observation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928997)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:13 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

My current team is 100% white men. Last team was 12 white guys and 1 Indian guy. Team before that was all white with 1 Indian (who we had to fire because he lied about his skills and experience).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34929015)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:25 PM
Author: Flatulent indian lodge

Ok sounds like you're at an SV startup then. I'm east coast at a mid-sized but insanely profitable corp. Probably the top white talent is where you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34929108)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Yeah but we aren't producing enough skilled people so here we are.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928875)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

bullshit. we have what like 3000 universities in this country, most of which probably have comp sci programs? there is absolutely no reason we can't produce enough ppl here to do these jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928924)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

That’s a lie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928930)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: lake abusive office

All of the lower-rung H1B people in my company (<100 employees) are in what are formally classified as one-off positions without regard for the nature of the work that they perform

Convenient



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928813)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: topaz old irish cottage

but these wives are not necessarily skilled. lot of them work at macys or indian grocery stores you dumbass. there is NO skill requirement for H4 EAD. if your husband has H1-B you get a work permit even if you are only a HS graduate from china/india/mexico whatever

dont you think thats harmful to american workers and suppresses low skilled wages?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928616)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Fair point if true.

What explains your hostility would you say? Childhood issues? Hope you're okay man life is too short to he ir8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928643)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: topaz old irish cottage

i am not hostile. maybe frustrated. the fact that your default position is to support foreign nationals without even doing the most basic cursory research to understand the actual issue is frustrating

you obviously have no idea what this work permit does, its requirements and what negative effects it could have. but you immediately jump in to defend some foreign workers who may not even settle here permanently if shit hits the fan.

its me and you who have to deal with both the good and bad that happens to our country and i expect my fellow citizens to prefer me and back me up just like i would do for them



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928677)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

I made an innocuous post curious about the issue. Relax sweetie the sky isn't falling :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928689)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: topaz old irish cottage

(innocuously defends every immigration loophole every single time)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928703)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Lavender Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928709)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928939)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

wow "sweetie" and "y u so ir8" in the same subthread. better call you butter cuz your on a roll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928734)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Good article on it. Program needs to he more narrowly tailored.

http://www.wbur.org/bostonomix/2017/02/23/h1b-visas-debate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928735)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

*ended completely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928945)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:04 PM
Author: peach hyperactive quadroon selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928937)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:25 PM
Author: topaz old irish cottage

the rule was enacted in 2015. you dont think we attracted top students and talent till 2015?

why the fuck is anytime something obama enacted in 2015/2016 is reversed ppl cry that sky is falling?

btw no other fucking country would allow spouses to work just because their partners are highly skilled and obtained a work visa. not india, not germany not UK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928598)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

I don't believe the sky is falling. Just seems unnecessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928633)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:33 PM
Author: topaz old irish cottage

thats because you dont really look at it from american workers perspective

these people are competing with american workers and more labor == less wages. at least with H1B you can make a tenous argument that they are skilled and in demand. spouse EAD has no skill requirement (you could be a HS dropout or a history major from India) and still get this permit. now you go and work in macys or vons and help companies hold down wages

libs dont give a shit about americans/american workers when it comes to immigration. no other country would degrade the value of citizenship as much as our country. every other country would protect and prefer its citizens as much as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928654)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Depends. Some companies incur the cost of sponsoring a visa and pay competitive salaries because they can't find qualified Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928752)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Bossy property hairy legs

Uhh the UK does bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928845)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

(fob)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928605)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:41 PM
Author: Charismatic Boltzmann

think you need to check up on the definition of incentivize bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928715)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Purple step-uncle's house azn

Or the spelling lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928743)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: umber circlehead yarmulke

it's becoming blatantly clear that anything dubbed "Obama-era policy" is pretty fucking bad for America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928663)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Thriller queen of the night

CNN shitting themselves over it is also a good sign

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928687)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: kink-friendly temple

THEY HAVE TO GO BACK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928679)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Lavender Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928704)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928890)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: arousing opaque kitty

Why are we allowing their wives into the country in the first place? H1B's should be temporary guest worker, they need to leave their families back home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928697)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: amber gaming laptop place of business

To keep pipe rapes to a minimum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928908)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:01 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

The entire h1b program should be scrapped. The only way you could actually believe there is a “stem worker shortage” is if you don’t work in STEM and haven’t bothered to look at any of the statistics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928910)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Scarlet resort dingle berry

because diversity, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34929002)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Hairraiser fantasy-prone range

Anyone against ending this is a traitor to America hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34928898)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:26 PM
Author: aromatic mustard half-breed

rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34929114)



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Date: December 15th, 2017 4:26 PM
Author: aromatic mustard half-breed

Doesn't this just make NOT AMERICA more attractive for startups?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830253&forum_id=2#34929120)