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Reminder: This tax bill is fucking awesome and the media is lying to you
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Date: December 15th, 2017 5:59 PM Author: Puce Depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34929970) |
Date: December 15th, 2017 6:03 PM Author: rough-skinned coldplay fan nowag cr. because their media and their college friends don't benefit. only people who work in productive industries do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34929992) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:05 PM Author: violent pervert pocket flask we're just going to have to pay it all back later since the republicans aren't cutting spending (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34929997) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: Puce Depressive Revenue will GO UP. Don't trust these "bipartisan" studies lmao.
Anyway, why is it on GOP to reduce deficit. Obama and democrats certainly didn't. Lowering tax revenue is just as bad as increasing spending. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:02 PM Author: violent pervert pocket flask (guy missing the point) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930311) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:04 PM Author: Puce Depressive pray tell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930320) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:43 PM Author: magical set philosopher-king obummer added more $ to the debt than any president in history. Libs were cool with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930209) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:02 PM Author: violent pervert pocket flask you're missing the point. its not a tax if we're just deferring taxes we'd otherwise be paying until later. spending isn't being reduced and the spending has to be paid for somehow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930306) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:05 PM Author: Puce Depressive You could easily just as call increased spending a "tax increase" since it will have to be paid for later (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930329) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:19 PM Author: territorial skinny woman this is what all intelligent people do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930406) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:06 PM Author: magical set philosopher-king No shit. That’s always been true. But Americans, reptiles and libtards alike, do not give a shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930335) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:02 PM Author: Vibrant hateful rehab yeah bro, like shit ever gets paid back by politicians. moron. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930307) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:39 PM Author: Puce Depressive LYING Chuck Schumer just lied about this bill. LOL fuck that traitor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930196) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:05 PM Author: Exciting Pungent Hairy Legs What did he say? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930325) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:40 PM Author: razzle dead senate Don't know all the details of the bill, but there is this:
https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/germans-fear-huge-loss-of-jobs-from-us-tax-reform-865577 |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 6:58 PM Author: Puce Depressive 1800000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930288) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: maize insanely creepy idiot chapel 1800 but libs will parrot schumer talking points (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930317) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:06 PM Author: Puce Depressive Yup. They are literally going all in with this "tax increase for middle and lower classes" BS. It's just a blatant lie but THEY DON'T CARE.
They could think it's the best bill in the world but they'd never admit it. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:08 PM Author: bistre boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930348) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: sepia temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930318) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Painfully Honest Slippery Water Buffalo That actually raises my opinion of the bill. Especially some of the technical changes on capex.
It's still a giveaway to the wealthy and a bad idea when we have a roaring economy and a deficit to pay but I'll take the good where I can. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:06 PM Author: mint range GC is the worst! Let’s give more money to corporations! *snaps up cricket* |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:07 PM Author: Puce Depressive "Corporations" are just products of people. It all goes back to the economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930343) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:10 PM Author: Painfully Honest Slippery Water Buffalo Once upon a time maybe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930361) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:14 PM Author: Arousing stubborn shrine Always look forward to your scholarship on corporate tax incidence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930385) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: Blue hairraiser national security agency cutting their taxes is "giving them money" now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930391) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: magical set philosopher-king That’s lib rhetoric (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930394) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:19 PM Author: Arousing stubborn shrine The lib worldview = all money you earn belongs to the government, they dole some out like an allowance.
Likewise, all rights and freedoms are initially with the government, can be revoked at any time.
Etc. etc.
It resembles the worldview of a child. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Puce Depressive 180. Posted basically same thing at same time below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930408) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Arousing stubborn shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930411) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:23 PM Author: Frum adventurous useless brakes sooo cr
every time i've made the liberal = child analogy in real life, half the group of people i'm with flips out at me and the other half thinks i'm awesome |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:19 PM Author: Puce Depressive You have to remember, in the mind of a lib, no corporation's or person's income is actually theirs, but rather the gov'ts, and any that they are allowed to keep is a contribution from the government.
At least for non poors |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Arousing stubborn shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930412) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: Frum adventurous useless brakes i feel like this is only possible due to modern urban society's almost complete disconnect from having to provide for themselves, or exposure to any malthusian pressures whatsoever
i really just can't see a subsistence farmer being able to take seriously the notion that "the government" is at all connected with the stewardship of his life and surroundings |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:32 PM Author: Arousing stubborn shrine It's funny - as freedom has expanded, as a practical if not legal matter, people have voluntarily contracted the space of freedom in their minds. It's as if there's a balance of slavery--freedom that must be conserved, like energy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930481) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: shaky cuckold hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930986) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: Kink-friendly onyx point Wasn’t this xo hitlers view as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930500) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:39 PM Author: buff contagious sound barrier plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931247) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:48 PM Author: Galvanic pale center Ur getting hung up on layman’s definition of “giving” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931299) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: Odious digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930395) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:08 PM Author: bistre boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930349) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:22 PM Author: fuchsia spot That's usually a good indicator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930422) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: Puce Depressive I think even board trumpmos and cucks are shocked at how great it is and are still hesitant to dole out praise (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930467) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:05 PM Author: Curious lavender travel guidebook The only thing that could make it better is if they ensure illegals don’t get a refundable child tax credit on top of their already bullshit earned income credit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930624) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: Cracking house background story there was discussion of tying the refundability to SSN for the child - has word come out about that in the released text? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930717) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:44 PM Author: Curious lavender travel guidebook Pages 49-50 of the conference report. The filer (illegal alien) can use an ITIN to collect all refundable tax credits for the anchor babies and a $500 tax credit for the 5 illegal (and nonexistent) dependents they claim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930889) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: fuchsia spot What does that mean? They don't need a ss#? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930937) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:57 PM Author: Curious lavender travel guidebook Under conference bill, the filer doesn’t need an ssn, just an itin. Filer collects $1400 refundable tax credits for anchor babies with ssns. Filer deducts five more $500 nonrefundable tax credits for abel, belen, carlos, david, and elena, none of which are real people, just a tax thing supported by no documentation whatsoever. Under the old House bill, the filer couldn’t do this with an ssn for the filer.. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:27 PM Author: Puce Depressive yeah. fucking illegals
LJL, libs consider illegals receiving the EITC as them "paying taxes".
Receiving welfare is paying taxes according to libs. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: Curious lavender travel guidebook Truth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930893) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:08 PM Author: slate fanboi This pass through deduction is fucking ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930639) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: Puce Depressive y (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930882) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: alcoholic doctorate wow... media lied again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930685) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: alcoholic doctorate what does this new bill reduce capital gains taxes?
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:28 PM Author: Puce Depressive huh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930772) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:29 PM Author: alcoholic doctorate sorry, shitty phone typing skills.
does the new bill reduce capital gains taxes? |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:44 PM Author: Puce Depressive no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930887) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: alcoholic doctorate FUCK!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930895) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:41 PM Author: Marvelous iridescent french chef How does it help middle, lower class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930866) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:44 PM Author: Puce Depressive lowers their taxes dumb nuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930885) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Marvelous iridescent french chef cogent analysis. your really doing a good job of supporting your bold claims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930934) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: Puce Depressive i mean basically everything says it's lowering their taxes. And the new tax rates support that.
Do you have any basis for your claim |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:47 PM Author: olive kitty cat Doubling the standard deduction is huge for a lot of people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930909) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:02 PM Author: Marvelous iridescent french chef but it gets rid of the personal deduction? Not trying to debate, I am legit retard in this area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931008) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:37 PM Author: Puce Depressive Exemption*. In total the new standard deductions adds up to a couple of thousand more than the old standard deduction plus personal exemption (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931236) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:44 PM Author: alcoholic doctorate why are libs so against people keeping more of the money they earn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930888) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: Puce Depressive because it's the government's money and any they let you keep is a privilege (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930897) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:48 PM Author: olive kitty cat Libs, explain how this tax plan is a “giveaway to the rich”
Because they got a 2% tax cut like almost everyone else?
I’ll give you estate tax, but the minimum taxable estate amount was already pretty high before |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: rough-skinned coldplay fan nowag don't give those shitlibs the death tax. rich people don't pay the estate tax. turbo-dumbs who land on money all of a sudden and then randomdeath pay it. random farmers with 5000 cows they never valued pay it after getting into a freak tractor accident. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930942) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:55 PM Author: Adulterous umber jewess Link to a farmer who has ever paid estate tax? Lol, this is just an appeal to are country retards promulgated by FNC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930965) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:55 PM Author: olive kitty cat I meant I see why this was a present to high net worth people. But other than the tax rate cut, what else?
My lib friends won’t stfu about “this is a handout to corporations and rich people.”
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:41 PM Author: buff contagious sound barrier plaza if you help two groups, but help one group more, libs think it's a hand out to the one group.
taxes go down for everyone. proles just need to earn more. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 10:16 PM Author: sepia temple lib friend went on a similar rant that was pretty nonsensical
middle class family saving few thousand "does nothing" because it "screws people over" and helps "the rich" |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:53 PM Author: Adulterous umber jewess What does your last clause mean?
And biggest giveaway is pass thru for “small biz”. The huge majority of small businesses net less than 75K, so already pay less than 25%. It’s a huge giveaway to already rich SB owners. Like, well, XoTrump Organization. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:57 PM Author: olive kitty cat estate and gift tax exemption is $5.49 million Right now.
Not sure what’s in this final iteration but I heard they were going to try to double that. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: Adulterous umber jewess It was already too high so we should get rid of it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930991) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:54 PM Author: 180 metal garrison Individual side is petty fair across the board. Big benefit to rich people is the pass through deduction for people like trump, who have a lot of passive income form LLCs.
Corporate tax cut will benefit Richmos tho, since most of the benefit will go to execs/stockholders. All sorts of estimates on how much will trickle down to workers but I think it’s ranges from 20-50 percent. |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 8:56 PM Author: Adulterous umber jewess I heard the stockholders were gonna use their increased dividends to pay teachers and police higher salaries. Can u confirm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34930972) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:39 PM Author: Puce Depressive this is retarded, even for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931245) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:53 PM Author: magical set philosopher-king In fairness to EPAH, his crack whore wife recently gave him the rare heterosexual AIDS and it’s manifesting neurological symptoms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931327) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:41 PM Author: alcoholic doctorate lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931258) |
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Date: December 15th, 2017 9:50 PM Author: Galvanic pale center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3830450&forum_id=2#34931313) |