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Anyone else bang high end escorts on the regular?
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I visit London 3-4x per year (use all of my vacation days) to bang high end escorts. London has the best escorts in the world since easy access to E. Europe and the rest of Europe. I've been with Italian, French, Spanish, British, Moroccan, Australian (she was studying abroad) and obviously the more common Czech, Ukrainian, and Polish. I make a decent amount and don't date at home because I can only get off on model level girls (which I can't get without paying). Pretty sure this will be my existence until I die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942308) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Also I'm 35 and make in the mid 200s. No debt, live fairly cheaply otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942312) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: Citrine church building possible to get busted overseas? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942320) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I use reputable agencies (Aprov London, Black Label London, Girls from Paradise London and London Photo Models)not backpage. Plus Europe isn't as prudish as the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942409) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:34 PM Author: Big Ebony Menage Mother Germany is a little better. FKK Oase and the privates are better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944637) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:34 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Quality of girls, I mean I can get street walkers for 50 bucks here but I want model quality girls not quantity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944642) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:40 PM Author: Big Ebony Menage Mother I think Germany still has better quality if you like non-asian women. Kgirls are the best though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944673) |
Date: December 17th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: Orchid beady-eyed locus mood how come you cant get off on regular girls? Sometimes a skanky low-rent body part will especially make me unnngh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942323) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:33 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I fucked a Spanish girl that looked like a young Penelope Cruz. Cost me 1800 GBP to see her three times (600 GBP each time) but I still think about her to this day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944636) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:20 PM Author: Orchid beady-eyed locus mood Seems like I should look into high end models once or twice, just for the experience if only. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942328) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:32 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Do it, it keeps me from killingself right now, the fact that I'm 3 months away from legit 8/9 20 something puss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944626) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: carmine queen of the night juggernaut I respect your choice. “Dating” as a non chad is a silly affair. But do you feel lonely/empty at the end of the encounter or during your 7 hour solo flight round trips? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942354) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: Orchid beady-eyed locus mood I guess there's maybe some spark of feeling on the part of the escort that is so well done as to be almost genuine and that is enough to keep the warm feeling going for a bit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942419) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:53 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Most of these girls are 20-25 so I don't relate much to them. I can have conversations with the ones who are part time escorts (lots of Arts and Music grads escort to make ends meet). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942558) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:14 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Some of those girls make me sad as fuck. Many are actually bright but went into totally the wrong area and believed in the "you can be anything you want!" flame and now have to let me fuck them vigorously to pay rent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949173) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:18 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Many of them just have very high end tastes. Also very high youth unemployment in Spain and France not to mention Eastern Europe. Was with this really cute French girl and I checked out the label on her dress while she was peeing in between sessions and it was from this brand I never heard of, looked it up later and their dresses go from $400-800 a piece. It made sense that she didn't want to kiss or do anything with the dress but why even wear it to the meeting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949216) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:20 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film I'm talking about here in the US. Sometimes I do this when I travel but I don't leave the country just to fuck whores. Plenty of them in the US and if you are remotely careful you can avoid problems with LE. I've met more than a few that do this because it is this or waitressing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949229) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: Fear-inspiring laughsome headpube whats the point if youre using condoms and not finishing inside? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942413) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: useless corner multi-billionaire so you only get laid 3-4x a year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942418) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 2:52 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I sleep with maybe 15-20 different girls in a given year. There's one independent escort in Paris that I kind of caught feelings for and I'll buy her stuff and take the train from London for the day to see her for a few hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942548) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 3:25 PM Author: Mentally impaired partner All pros? Or you pull random strange/app sluts in US in between ur London jaunts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34942729) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:31 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode "Pros" but a lot of the London girls are part time escorts using the money to fund their lavish student lifestyle in London. Youngest I was with was 19 although I prefer the 22-25 year ones since their better and willing to do more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944618) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:34 PM Author: Mint Godawful Jew Goal In Life Why don't you just move to Eastern Europe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944638) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:35 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I have a high paying job stateside, I wouldn't be able to fund my hobby living in Eastern Europe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944644) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:36 PM Author: bearded windowlicker station Would love to but paranoid about stds any advice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944649) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:37 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode You get what you pay for, the really high end ones (400GBP+) see rich dudes mostly olds but occasional Saudi prince or something. They all require condoms but I get BBBJ and insist on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944653) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:54 PM Author: metal theater non-responsive; BBBJ and even condom sex still is a major herpes risk and warts and a bunch of other shit
this is why I stopped seeing escorts and started only using them for massages; no STD risk but I get off and have the same "rush" of a new girl naked |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:17 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film You're a beta risk-averse dork. You can always find a reason not to fuck some hot girl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944932) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:37 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode If I didn't do this I'd fall into a deep depression lose my job, thats kind of how I justify it in my mind. It ends up saving me money because otherwise I would be an unemployedmo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944659) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: Lemon center philosopher-king I switched from escorts to video games, has been 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944696) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Saddest post I've read in a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944952) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: abnormal idiot What are the girls like? Normal, or are they damaged in some way? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944707) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode It's a mix theres high turnover I don't think most girls last more than 2 years or so and most probably age out after 28. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944741) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency are female escorts normal asked the xo poa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944750) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:21 PM Author: Canary nursing home they used to be sacred in some cultures, retard. trading sex for money isn't some weird kink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949231) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:21 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film oldest profession, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949236) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency TTIWWOP FGT
also, doesnt it suck after like the 5th or whatever time when u have no emotional connecton with the girl? do you take them out and they do GFE or wahtever? |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode londonphotomodels
black label london
Aprov London
Google them, I've been with several from each agency. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency gfe?
describe a session |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:57 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I get a text from their handler than their on their way, I tell them I'll be in the lobby and what I'm wearing. They greet me like they know me. We take the elevator up to my room. I'll grab her but and give it a nice squeeze. Theres a plane unmarked envelope on the nightstand. I leave to "wash my hands". She counts the money and puts it in her purse. We kiss for a few minutes. I wear my dress shrits and she slowly unbuttons it kissing my bare chest slowly until she reaches my pants. She unbuckles them and gives me head, I have to control myself and tell her to slow down so I don't finish to early. I'll flip her on the bed and go down on her (I know but I like it). I'll fuck her in a few positions and go for round 2. I have a prescription to both Cialis and Viagra so I can typically go 2 rounds no problem. We'll kiss goodnight and then I'll watch some TV and jerk off at night before I go to bed alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944791) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: metal theater see above re: STD risk; if I could lower it to basically 0 I'd bang escorts but instead I just do massages where it is almost no risk
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:03 PM Author: stubborn swollen indirect expression Stfu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944834) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:03 PM Author: metal theater wtf this is actually good advice because the STD risk is serious and erotic massages are like 75% the experience, 50% the cost, 0% risk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944839) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:16 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film This is retarded and more like 20% of the experience. The point is to fuck some hot young girl, not to have someone jack you off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945432) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency jesus you go twice and then jerk off? viagra must really work well
arent you super lonely at night? do u ever pay them to stay the night? |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:02 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Yes, very much so, I'm a pretty lonely person in real life. I've been to Paris like 8 times alone (aside from seeing the escort that I caught feelings for).
No, 1 hour its between 400-600 GBP but like 1500-3k for overnight. I'd rather be with 5 different girls for an hour than 1 for 1 night. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:04 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency why not cop a seekingarrangement chick for that kind of money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944845) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:10 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I have a fondness for European girls, especially French and Spanish. Theirs a certain quality about them that 20 something American girls lack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944879) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:10 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency fair, i agree. is there a SA equivalent in EU? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944880) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:11 PM Author: metal theater im not a hater but plz answer my STD Q as I'd like to bang escorts again but have a mental block (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944887) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:14 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Don't go for the low end if you can help it. High end girls are more likely to be tested and treated. Never fuck with/out a condom. Odds of getting an STD from oral are very low. If you're very concerned about it get tested regularly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944904) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:18 PM Author: metal theater oral is lower but there's still a risk and it just seems too high to me, as some of it can be incurable, but I guess it's a risk you must be willing to take
I'd let a girl suck me with a condom but I'd be PARANOID about no saliva touching me which kills the mood |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode They would be more than happy to give a covered beej (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944949) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:17 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Does anyone actually do this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945443) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 9:51 AM Author: balding shimmering church You are way too paranoid about getting an STD.
You can get one from a non-pro too, you know. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:18 PM Author: Transparent Vivacious Associate Gunner i think the implication is that he can only have sex with pros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950231) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:02 PM Author: metal theater you pay them to leave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944825) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:03 PM Author: pea-brained space said the disgustingly ugly guy who can't land a non-whore to save his life smugly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944842) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:04 PM Author: pea-brained space you can't fuck your gf 3 times in a day without dick pills? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944847) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:05 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency when i first met my wife we'd go 5 times a day
now 10+ years later... lol |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:07 PM Author: pea-brained space age? Can still do a non wind aided 5+ easy and i'm old. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944864) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:11 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode 35, the Viagra/Cialis is more of an insurance policy would hate to get limp dick cause I pay for her "time" regardless of whether I can perform. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944883) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:50 PM Author: carmine queen of the night juggernaut This is a problem for your future life. If you are still doing this in your 40s and can’t get it up, well what’s the point? If you decide to move to a conventional relationship well, your dick is broke. You won’t like the type of girl you are able to pull with sex once a week on viagra. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945234) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency he can just viagra the rest of his life no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945272) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:11 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency with your wife, or a random new chick? i dont think a random new chick would be a huge problem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944884) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:07 PM Author: Massive step-uncle's house wagecucks I thought working girls didn't kiss. Myth? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944867) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:12 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode These are high end escorts, they have day jobs (mostly students etc). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944890) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:14 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Complete myth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945419) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:47 AM Author: swashbuckling kitchen quadroon Some sort of do it in a check-the-box, just trying to get it out of the way manner at the beginning, which is annoying once you realize that's what she's doing. The good ones are literally skilled actresses that force all the fear and disgust out of their heads and can pretend to be really into you and excited to have your tongue in their throat, and kiss you convincingly enough that you can go along with it and forget what you're doing. Also, getting really fucking stoned on chill, body high weed is CR because it helps you get out of your head and last longer. Half of what makes you get too in your head is that you're getting a much better bj right off the bat than you're used to getting from a normal girl, and when you're ready to pop in like 3 minutes it's a depressing feeling, and hard to recover from. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946666) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:03 PM Author: Stirring set potus Escorts are for poors bro. Didn’t xo each u that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944840) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:18 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film WTF is this flame? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944944) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:08 PM Author: Painfully honest seedy crackhouse how many non whores have you banged? age, looks, norwood scale, height? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944868) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:15 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I've been with 4 non-escorts in my life. I'm 35, 5'10 and 160lbs. Toned but not ripped. I look like the guy from the Big Sick and Silicon Valley (Kumail Nanjiani)but maybe 1 point more attractive in the face. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944916) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:18 PM Author: pea-brained space turdskin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944941) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I'm a spitting image for Kumail Nanjiani but less chubby. So yes I guess I am. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944956) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Brother, i've met many turdskins like yourself - young, high income, and frequent escort client. The white american womyn is mega racist, your life would be better outside of the USA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944981) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:27 PM Author: bateful ratface school cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945012) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 9:57 AM Author: balding shimmering church well hes indian and only likes white women so it looks like he's the racist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947761) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Aromatic karate abode We'll I'm a clean cut Pakistani American who dresses well and is obsessed with hygiene so It's not like I'm the token H1B fob. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947818) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:47 AM Author: balding shimmering church why don't you like your own women (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34948137) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Their not very attractive and the the very very few that are are insanely competitive to get. They're also kind of stuck up and high maintenance. I have a white girl fetish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949182) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Thoughts on E. Asian girls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949189) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:21 PM Author: Titillating Keepsake Machete Stead >> Their not very attractive and the the very very few that are are insanely competitive to get. <<
It's crazy to me that this phenomenon ever exists, given that for any individual girl in that situation an improvement in looks pays off big time. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Aside from being in-shape, most women can't really make themselves attractive if they just aren't. Also, for whatever reason S. Asian women hate exercise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949251) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:42 PM Author: Titillating Keepsake Machete Stead i 1000% disagree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949414) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:23 PM Author: ruby goyim lol at this so-called ivy shitlib literally espousing the belief that women of a certain race are teh COLLECTIVE CHATTEL PROPERTY of men of that race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950285) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:28 PM Author: Titillating Keepsake Machete Stead she'll also talk about how great diversity is in this country and how interesting it makes this country.
and then you get a guy like the OP who is interested by that diversity by wanting women of a different race and BS gets all offended bc they happen to be white girls.
whereas if OP were a white guy who poasted about only wanting to fuck black chicks BS would instead be asking him why he thinks most white guys underestimate how hot black chicks are. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:23 PM Author: pea-brained space yea, he is a paki or some sort of turd right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944988) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:00 AM Author: Haunting racy patrolman selfie are you american? why not do the arranged marriage bit ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946840) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:05 AM Author: Aromatic karate abode I've gotten accustomed to really attractive women that I can't get IRL and Pakistani women are lest just say slightly more attractive than Indian women. The marriage would be loveless and I would hate myself. At least this way I'm just a few months away from a week of being with 4-5 stunning Euro girls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947835) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 9:56 AM Author: balding shimmering church Why do Indian guys seem to be particularly interesting in dating "gimmicks" - speed dating, online dating, escort service, matchmaking...things where people are set up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947758) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:18 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Just taking a guess: because they come from a culture where arranged marriages are the norm?
That said, American men are unusually hesitant to just bang whores. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:16 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Dude check out the montreal scene. They have hawt as fuck 20yo French canadian girls for around USD $150. Pussy for whatever reason is crazy, CRAZY, overpriced in the anglospheare.
Check out these chicks: http://vogmtl.com/ |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:18 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Have you used this agency? I'm always weary of too good to be true. Like if I see a legit 8+ for less than $500 I get suspicious and pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944940) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:20 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Yes. I've been to montreal several times. Totally legit, hawt college aged women. I like it even more than the FKK scene, which also has hawt women but mostly mid 20s third world/eastern euros. In MTL the chicks are just college girls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944959) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency how are strip clubs in montreal (and any suggestions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944982) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:24 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Strip clubs are full nude and you can touch (not the vaj). Not a big strip club person; prefer escorts or at very least the NURU massage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34944997) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:28 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency should a bachelor party in montreal just email that agency you linked and get hooked up with a bunch of girls for the weekend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945019) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:37 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit yeah, try to do a day in advance. The hot girls get booked fast. Some of the girls have lots of tats; if you're not into that (i'm not) let the guy know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945079) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:02 AM Author: Haunting racy patrolman selfie have partaken in this, some of the best sex of my life and im not an escortmo, just a garden variety deviant, I was in montreal for a bachelor party, hookering is qausi-legal there, quebequa bitch that didn't speak a lick of english, it was one of the few times where I had an almost non existent refractory period and came three times in an hour and change. Would recommend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946844) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:38 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe i refuse to pay an escort for sex. I can still get it consistently for free from a girl that genuinely wants me to have the pussy. i intend to be married by the time im no longer attractive enough for this to be the case.
i'd imagine having to pay for intimacy can be a soulcrushing experience. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:39 PM Author: pea-brained space (normal person) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945100) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:42 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Having a thin, 20yo drop by, undress, suck and fuck is actually a phenomenal experience. Even better, she just leaves afterwards.
I admit that it would even better if she genuinely liked me, but this is better (much better) than banging some frumpy 30yo shrew. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:43 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line imagine the effort or celebrity required to bang a hot 18 yr old in 30 min versus paying $150 for her to swallow your nut and lose yournumber? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945154) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:44 PM Author: pea-brained space this is such a stupid argument. You lie to yourself that you "pay her to leave," but we all know you pay because it's the only way you'll fuck her and you'd be overjoyed if the whore was willing to spend one second with you beyond what you saved up for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945168) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:45 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line that's part of it. plus who wants to date an 18 yr old? I can barely talk to them. I gladly pay the $150 to rail one from behind and watch her chug my seed for the price of one decent dinner for two with mid range wine at any date restaurant I d take a mid 20s chick for mediocre sex and a morning of possible regret. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:02 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945342) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:06 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Be real for a second. There's no way a hot 18-20 year old is banging some 30+ year old lawyer unless she is being paid in some way. Not unreasonable at all for a guy to say "fuck it, she costs X and I'm cool with that and I'm going to fuck her brains out and move on with my life."
At least we don't have to cry about never fucking teens again. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:46 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Going out and chasing poon just isn't efficient. I'm not a Chad, even when I score it's not with anyone near as attractive as $150 could buy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945195) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:48 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line it's the only option if in a relationship; no worry of phone calls, facebook pics whatever from cheating also. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945209) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:43 PM Author: pea-brained space the point of his post, was this behavior sounds pathetic to normals who can fuck that girl without paying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945156) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:49 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line to get an 18 yr old to go home with you and fuc kand dealing with her afterwards is costing $150 in drinks, drugs, car fare, or your fucking brain listening to her for hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945222) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:11 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Plus, a lot of times you go home with nothing. When you pay you always leave happy and relaxed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945403) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:49 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Very few 30+yo biglaw dudes are able to slay hawt 20yos. If he can, he's not "normal," and I am happy for his good fortune. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945230) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe im not in biglaw, im 29 and newly grad 23 year olds are the easiest lays in manhattan. i dont think of myself as anything other than a normal guy that goes to the gym and dates alot.
i think youre severely underestimating the sex lives of most men buddy. almost no one under 40 consistently pays for sex i would imagine. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:59 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Tons of men do, but it's not something they advertise. You can search the seekingarrangement threads on this bort for some examples. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945314) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:27 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film SA threads and escort threads are basically the norm. And everyone knows a lot of XO "studs" like RSF and nyuug are paying for it too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949282) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:45 PM Author: pea-brained space (Pathetic serial John trying to normalize his sad behavior lying to himself that “everyone’s doing it.”) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949444) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:08 AM Author: Haunting racy patrolman selfie i know a fuck ton of dudes who do, even some chads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946860) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Concupiscible shaky international law enforcement agency rofl of course 2 pumos can fuck smoking hot 18-21 yo girls without effort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945275) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:56 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe i can absolutely fuck a 24 year old without effort. how the fuck am i going to meet a 20 year old or some shit? i have a job motherfucker and i hang out at bars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945292) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:13 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Well, we can fuck 18 year olds without effort by leaving some cash on the table. So fuck off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945413) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:52 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe the fact that she doesn't want to have sex with you but for her economic circumstances would totally ruin the experience for me i think. you do you though - its a mutually beneficial economic arrangement. I feel sorry for you mostly, but perhaps you don't think you need my pity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945256) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:53 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line I've dated escorts after banging them once and not paying again. most these days don't have pimps. those that do, well your white dick will never sway them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945268) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:09 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film W/e, they fuck like champs and the guy has a great time. No idea why you think anyone should be pitied here instead of the guy staying home with his dick in his hand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945388) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:21 AM Author: swashbuckling kitchen quadroon A big part of it is that no woman could do this unless she can really dissociate during sex, and just shut off her mind and focus purely on the physical sensations. That's really hot specifically because it solves the problem of dealing with IRL women. Like I could happily deal with so much more shit from a wife or gf if every couple days she could just turn it off for 30 minutes and say "let's fuck really hard and cum really hard and then we can come back to this intense emotional subject more relaxed and make some progress." But outside of STD-laden bar sluts and one night stands/rape accusations, these chicks are fictions of Jewish Hollywood Weinstein perv writers' imaginations, when they picture what their lives would be like as Chads. If I ever came across a woman like this IRL in 21st century America who is height/weight proportionate and not facially disfigured I would lock her down and never need an escort again. But the reality is that 99.99% of IRL women when dealing with normal guys think sex is all about whatever bullshit pyschobabble she wants to layer onto it to make it about her ("intimacy" "trust" "vulnerability" all as a function of whatever she happens to think about her value relative to you at whatever given time), and you getting off, feeling bonded to her, getting a stress release, etc. is at best a necessary evil and often an opportunity to hold you hostage to extract other concessions or complain about various other pieces of bullshit in the relationship. And this goes x100 when you and she have already fucked a hundred times before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946798) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:10 AM Author: Haunting racy patrolman selfie toxic but with more than a grain of truth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946866) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949140) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: ruby goyim 3736264737626273 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949147) |
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Date: January 1st, 2018 1:51 PM Author: misunderstood mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#35055912) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:49 AM Author: swashbuckling kitchen quadroon Getting married is what makes most guys become "hobbyists." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946673) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:03 AM Author: balding shimmering church yeah im not a man but i cant imagine paying for sex to be that fun
part of the thrill of sex is knowing that the other people is hot for you and enjoying themselves/receiving pleasure. if i knew they were just trying to get money it would do nothing for me. |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:38 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line I date mid range, like I have savior syndrome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945098) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:41 PM Author: Exciting plaza Describe high end. I top out at 1.7k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945134) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:44 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit dude there's no such thing as 'high end.' paying more than 2 or 3 hundred for a chick is some crazy feminist brain washing. Pussy just isn't that valuable; tons and tons of young attractive women everywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945170) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:45 PM Author: Exciting plaza I pay that much for porn stars because I enjoy fucking the chicks I see get debased regularly. I pay 250 tops for regular chicks on backpage or SA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945181) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:47 PM Author: Twisted Vermilion Parlor Hissy Fit Sounds about right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945201) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:03 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe you dont see anything illogical about paying a premium to fuck girls that get regularly debased? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945347) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:04 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945360) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:07 PM Author: Exciting plaza I'm not saying it's for everyone. I have the disposable income and enjoy fucking porn stars though. People spend as much as I do on escorts just to party and travel, which bore the living shit out of me. To each his own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945379) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:13 AM Author: Haunting racy patrolman selfie i like fucking pronstars too , some of em let you raw dog (i'm a be honest, most of em do), they get tested regularly and before shoots. if you get tested regularly, they'll let you raw dog, the peace of mind and raw dogging a pornowhore is 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946878) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:04 AM Author: motley genital piercing What’s your throwaway, relevant to my interests (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947826) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:03 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Totally agree. Maybe $350-400 if they're damn near perfect 10s but otherwise, $200-300/hr is the sweet spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945356) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:17 AM Author: charcoal resort (guy who gets it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947914) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:53 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I've been with a Spanish girl that looked like Penelope Cruz, cost me $600 for the hour. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945270) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line anything over $160 is robbery or you look like the kid from mask. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945276) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:55 PM Author: Exciting plaza I was with Kendra Lust and a tranny with a ten inch cock this weekend, 1.7k and 200, respectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945279) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 9:57 PM Author: fiercely-loyal black woman personal credit line those prices are so backwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945304) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:03 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945345) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:56 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe alright i wouldnt have asked so many questions had i realized this thread is the twilight zone on the outside fringes of society.
you paid 200 dollars to sleep with a man hopped up on estrogen with fake tits, severe psychological issues and a massive cock? i wish id seen this first before reading anything else lol |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949126) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:33 PM Author: Exciting plaza trannies are >>>>> regular women. Sorry it's true. Just learn to avoid the crazy ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950423) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:03 PM Author: Irradiated lilac native sweet tailpipe of all the corners of the world wide web, how did i end up here having this discussion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950736) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: Mustard national Never been with an escort. Can you give facials to high end ones or do they need to keep makeup and hair fresh for the other clients that night? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946049) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I've came in a mouths before but never face. I think there's an increased STD risk for her from facials. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946097) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 11:37 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film What on earth makes you think this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946180) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 12:38 AM Author: Mint Godawful Jew Goal In Life (medical doctor) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946441) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 10:19 PM Author: Talented fuchsia orchestra pit yeah RSF does this too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34945454) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 11:37 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34946182) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 9:59 AM Author: Up-to-no-good office mad-dog skullcap can't imagine paying that much for condom sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947777) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:09 AM Author: Aromatic karate abode I have nothing else to really spend my disposable income on. That and visiting escorts is the only thing that keeps me from becoming depressionpwned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34947858) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:22 AM Author: balding shimmering church lol @ men
you guys are slaves to women/sex
some braindead check can make hundreds of dollars an hour with you because you're ruled by your genitals |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film That's not even the worst. Look at the guys that lose millions or billions or end up destitute because of divorce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949183) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:25 PM Author: ruby goyim state ur T levels before i engage u further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950314) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:42 AM Author: contagious abusive stag film He might be overpaying but realistically, one way or another most men spend the majority of their hard earned cash on women. The guy paying for a dumpy wife and some kids he barely likes and doesn't even get laid has it worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34948113) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 10:44 AM Author: Up-to-no-good office mad-dog skullcap condom sex is worse than masturbation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34948120) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: contagious abusive stag film Sounds like you need to try it with a man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949122) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:45 PM Author: Rambunctious Nubile Hall The most PRESTIGIOUS escort board, folks... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949447) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 6:27 PM Author: motley genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34960803) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:52 PM Author: Glassy Nowag i used to bang quite a lot of high end escorts but i tired of paying for sex pretty quickly, it's pretty pathetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949503) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I suppose I have an addiction to attractive girls in their early 20s and the only way I can get is spending $600 a pop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949518) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Rambunctious Nubile Hall If you're flying out anyway, why not go to places like Ukraine and Thailand which are a fraction of the cost? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949584) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:53 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Not into asian girls, prefer western European to eastern (French, Spanish, Italian), also using high end services in London helps screen me from scams which I'm sure are rampant in Ukraine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949979) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:36 PM Author: Glassy Nowag yeh, ljl at anyone using escort services in kiev (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950461) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:00 PM Author: Rambunctious Nubile Hall I mean, I'd argue ljl at someone paying $600 to fuck unless they're rich but hey, that's just me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950718) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I'm a single 30 something making mid 200s living in a efficiency 1 bedroom by myself. If I didn't have escorts I'm sure I would have jumped in front of a train by now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34958236) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: Rambunctious Nubile Hall I'm not saying you shouldn't fuck escorts. I'm saying spending $600 to do it is silly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34958287) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:53 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode Money isn't really important to me, I spend maybe 20% of my income on escorts that would have otherwise been siting in a retirement account. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34949981) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:06 PM Author: Rambunctious Nubile Hall I mean yeah, but you could probably do it more often and probably have money left over if you figured out how to use your money more effectively. For example, if it were my play I agree with the poster above that Montreal is famous for being a cost-effective way to do this. London, OTOH, is notoriously expensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34950761) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:14 PM Author: Aromatic karate abode I like to think that I'm banging more girls (and better looking ones) than the Chads I knew in high school and college who married and settled down with girls who are now kind of chubby. But the loneliness can be crushing at times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832146&forum_id=2#34958279) |