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So the NFL's game of the year boiled down to autistically debating a "catch"?

lol at anyone who watches this crap.
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  12/18/17
I’m over the replay bullshit. Mistakes will be made, people ...
Demanding vigorous heaven
  12/18/17
its not really a debate. the refs got the call on the field ...
excitant depressive
  12/18/17
?
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  12/18/17
no they got it right. it's just a stupid rule
Cerise Community Account Crackhouse
  12/18/17
its not a stupid rule. you have to make the catch. you can't...
excitant depressive
  12/18/17
(Matt Damon)
Cerise Community Account Crackhouse
  12/18/17
If Smith-Shuster the play before, had run 10 yards further, ...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
i dont know which play youre referring to but if you run 10 ...
excitant depressive
  12/18/17
I legit don't know, Is that the governing factor? The re...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
>> Either way, its a dumb rule, because clearly he had...
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  12/18/17
This is absolutely retarded. Do you know anything about foot...
titillating godawful degenerate feces
  12/18/17
guess not
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
Want to change your mind?
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  02/04/18
better not go back and rewatch the end of the Pats-Texans ga...
idiotic gay coldplay fan
  12/18/17
How was he not going to the ground on that?
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  02/04/18
what counts as 'indisputable video evidence'?
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
something like this where you can clearly see the ball fall ...
excitant depressive
  12/18/17
just to be autistic... if he's falling backward, the ball...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
Wut? What points are you trying to make here
titillating godawful degenerate feces
  12/18/17
do you have to see the ball actually touching the grass when...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
the reason I'm getting autistic with this, is that I've seen...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/18/17
After the Benjamin score was overturned, many immediately bl...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  12/25/17
lol at Pats fan alternate reality
Geriatric Cuckoldry
  02/04/18
the NFL is done, dude if you're a heterosexual male still...
Razzle-dazzle walnut office
  12/18/17
i haven't watched for 4+ years. lol at grown men autistic...
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  12/18/17
...
olive weed whacker mother
  12/18/17
the "rules" of your "sport" are pretty f...
Fear-inspiring Self-centered Dilemma
  12/18/17
lmao
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  12/18/17
...
hairraiser skinny woman
  12/18/17
this is basically the dez catch all over again, no? it was a...
chrome hairless fat ankles public bath
  12/18/17
...
Cerebral indian lodge haunted graveyard
  02/04/18
...
Stirring pervert
  02/04/18
The whole season boiled down to that
Carnelian aromatic theater ratface
  02/04/18
The Steelers would have been the #1 seed Jags would have ...
Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman
  02/04/18
cr
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  03/01/18
...
Emerald stock car
  02/04/18
Lol, and then of course the Super Bowl had the same issue
Yellow Concupiscible Property
  03/01/18
One of the announcers exaggerated the ambiguity of the call
sepia lascivious double fault
  03/01/18


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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:35 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

lol at anyone who watches this crap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949852)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:36 PM
Author: Demanding vigorous heaven

I’m over the replay bullshit. Mistakes will be made, people are human, move on and hope the next error is in your favor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949861)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: excitant depressive

its not really a debate. the refs got the call on the field wrong. the only people who think otherwise are steeler fans and pats-haters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949871)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949905)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: Cerise Community Account Crackhouse

no they got it right. it's just a stupid rule

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949934)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: excitant depressive

its not a stupid rule. you have to make the catch. you can't lose it when you hit the ground if you don't yet have possession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949949)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: Cerise Community Account Crackhouse

(Matt Damon)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949967)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:54 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

If Smith-Shuster the play before, had run 10 yards further, and then fallen into the endzone in the same manner, and the ball had moved in the same manner

would it have been a catch?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949985)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: excitant depressive

i dont know which play youre referring to but if you run 10 yards will the ball you probably have possession, but it depends on whether youre bobbling it. but thats not what happened here. he caught it going to the ground

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950009)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

I legit don't know,

Is that the governing factor? The referee determining whether a player is balanced or not?

Either way, its a dumb rule, because clearly he had the ball in his possession, enough to lung and stretch it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950064)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:05 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

>> Either way, its a dumb rule, because clearly he had the ball in his possession, enough to lunge and stretch it out. <<

Speaking as a non-fan with no dog in this hunt, that video above intuitively seems like he caught the ball. Like, if you ask a child "did that guy catch the ball" they'd all say yes.

But of course whether it's a catch or not isn't the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950086)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:09 PM
Author: titillating godawful degenerate feces

This is absolutely retarded. Do you know anything about football?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950128)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:15 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

guess not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950205)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

Want to change your mind?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324597)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:54 PM
Author: idiotic gay coldplay fan

better not go back and rewatch the end of the Pats-Texans game then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949989)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

How was he not going to the ground on that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324679)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

what counts as 'indisputable video evidence'?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949962)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: excitant depressive

something like this where you can clearly see the ball fall out of his hands once he hits the ground

https://mobile.twitter.com/leadingnfl/status/942549749609119744



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950019)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:07 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

just to be autistic...

if he's falling backward, the ball is on his chest, he hits the ground, the ball pops up, out of his possession, doesn't hit the ground, he re-catches

good catch right?

if he has the ball, in his possession the whole time, falls to the ground, ball touches the ground, clearly doesn't move, clearly maintains possession the whole time

still a good catch right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950107)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:10 PM
Author: titillating godawful degenerate feces

Wut? What points are you trying to make here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950141)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:15 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

do you have to see the ball actually touching the grass when it moves? It obviously moves due to him falling, by the time you see it touching the grass, it appears to be back in 'dispute' as to whether he has control over it

I agree that physics renders this unlikely

but that seems like a standard that isn't uniformly applied to exactly how indisputable what you're looking at has to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950203)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:08 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

the reason I'm getting autistic with this, is that I've seen calls that seem to meet a different standard of what exactly you need to see

I think it usually happens around fumble calls, where the question is whether the knee was down

due to piles of bodies, you don't get an exact view of the knee, but the hip will move such that the knee not hitting the ground would defy physics,

yet the call goes as call on the field stands because video evidence is inconclusive

-----

I think I've seen similar situation when reviewing whether or not a punt was touched, the ball will move in a way that defies physics, but the video evidence will be determined as inconclusive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950115)



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Date: December 25th, 2017 2:31 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

After the Benjamin score was overturned, many immediately blamed the NFL’s famously broken catch rule. But in a strange twist, the catch rule was not the problem here. The question here was whether both of Benjamin’s feet touched down in the end zone when he gained control of the ball. Having both feet down with possession is the purest definition of a catch, the one we all understood before things got extremely complicated.

The problem here was not with the rule, but with the way the NFL’s replay system operates. The on-field officials ruled that Benjamin got both feet down. Slow-motion replays raised the question of whether Benjamin’s second foot left the ground before he gained control, but there was no angle that definitively proved Benjamin didn’t have control when his foot left the ground.

The NFL is only supposed to overturn calls if there is “clear and obvious” video evidence that the on-field decision was wrong. If the video is inconclusive—or really, anything less than “clear and obvious”—the call on the field should stand. But between the Seferian-Jenkins overturn and this one, it’s now clear and obvious that the league’s replay office does not adhere to that standard.

The league’s replay system is meant to correct officiating errors by on-field officials. Instead, the league office is using challenges as an opportunity to freshly officiate the plays from New York. That takes a lot of agency away from the league’s referees. This is, of course, quite upsetting to officiating experts:

...

Leagues are right to use instant replay to ensure accuracy. But when slow-motion, high-definition replays from a variety of angles don’t definitively tell us what happened on a play, there is no right or wrong answer. And in those cases, there won’t be a better solution than trusting the refs.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/12/24/16817224/week-16-winners-and-losers-replay-officials-butt-interception-browns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35004410)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Geriatric Cuckoldry

lol at Pats fan alternate reality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324730)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle walnut office

the NFL is done, dude

if you're a heterosexual male still watching the NFL you are a very confused individual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949953)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

i haven't watched for 4+ years.

lol at grown men autistically raging on TV about this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34949964)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: olive weed whacker mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950049)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Self-centered Dilemma

the "rules" of your "sport" are pretty fucking stupid when the only way to enforce them is through a super zoomed-in, slow motion and reversed, multi-angle replay in hd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950022)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:01 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34950042)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:43 PM
Author: hairraiser skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34951036)



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Date: December 18th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: chrome hairless fat ankles public bath

this is basically the dez catch all over again, no? it was a shit rule then and it's shit now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#34951017)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Cerebral indian lodge haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324602)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Stirring pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324606)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Carnelian aromatic theater ratface

The whole season boiled down to that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324609)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:08 PM
Author: Azure fantasy-prone generalized bond patrolman

The Steelers would have been the #1 seed

Jags would have played the Pats in the divisional round

This sport is ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324709)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35516351)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 10:08 PM
Author: Emerald stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35324716)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: Yellow Concupiscible Property

Lol, and then of course the Super Bowl had the same issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35516349)



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Date: March 1st, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: sepia lascivious double fault

One of the announcers exaggerated the ambiguity of the call

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3833092&forum_id=2#35516606)