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In Mediation for a Wrongful Term - Guess outcome (CSLG)

I do mostly PI but I take on the occasional employment case ...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
How big is this co and how much was she being paid?
Aqua step-uncle's house azn
  01/08/18
She was making slightly over 100K. Company is about 50 peopl...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
wtf were they thinking
heady rehab main people
  01/08/18
Very successful small business owners tend to be great at ma...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
My last company was this way, still tightly run by it's foun...
Stirring twinkling uncleanness
  01/08/18
350k is my guess. They are offering a lot already
overrated racy den jap
  01/08/18
Do they pay for atty fees? I mean, does the settlement inclu...
Talented primrose liquid oxygen death wish
  01/08/18
heh, oh they will have a little talk about that ...
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
We take 40% attorneys fees. If we were awarded attorneys fee...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
How does this go down brother. Seems like there are going to...
scarlet plaza associate
  01/08/18
This is the norm. Welcome to California.
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
nice case, bro.
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
I thought this was about not using someone's preferred prono...
frum pozpig
  01/08/18
Juries in LA are mostly hispanics and poors. They woudn't aw...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
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heady rehab main people
  01/08/18
Case is worth more than that, and they’re idiots for not buy...
odious wild indian lodge
  01/08/18
The case is clearly worth more, but a lot of small business ...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
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Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
I find it hard to believe that a company with 50 people on t...
odious wild indian lodge
  01/08/18
Nobody wants "payable later this year."
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
She can get $150-200k upfront and the rest later + short ter...
odious wild indian lodge
  01/08/18
I know how its supposed to work. What PI atty wants to ...
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
Secured promissory note with stipulated judgment to be enter...
odious wild indian lodge
  01/08/18
so you have judgment. and then ... Lol at thinking they ...
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
I got 450K, how do you feel about that number?
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
Nice work! I thought $490 when you said $500 as I knew they...
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/09/18
so you think they just made it up? are you sure none of her ...
Crystalline stage mexican
  01/08/18
We have dozens of documents supporting all of this.
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
How did you get the docs, did she walk out with them?
Stirring twinkling uncleanness
  01/08/18
She saved some of the e-mails/text messages, some we got thr...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
Got it, so you're already into discovery. Surprised they did...
Stirring twinkling uncleanness
  01/08/18
how do you manage client's expectations re settlement outcom...
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
My clients love me. I have a great relationship with them. I...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
sure, but do you estimate case value at the onset of the rel...
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
I knew it was multi-six figures initially, but you learn a l...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
IN addition to being well organized and networking well, thi...
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  01/08/18
As an employer, what are commmon things that we can do to pr...
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  01/08/18
get w atty for five minutes before you want to fire somebody...
Supple medicated weed whacker
  01/08/18
...
Thriller dilemma rigor
  01/08/18
(1) For all employees -- always consistently document reason...
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  01/08/18
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Thriller dilemma rigor
  01/08/18
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indecent soul-stirring nursing home cumskin
  01/08/18
My guess is 225k. Starting at 50k is a good sign. Plaint...
judgmental wagecucks chapel
  01/08/18
E.g.s of bad facts?
Comical kink-friendly senate
  01/09/18
I had a great pregnancy discrimination case for a manager at...
judgmental wagecucks chapel
  01/09/18
This is what I would've guessed. But California has no damag...
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  01/09/18
they couldn't produce paperwork documenting this as pre-arra...
hairraiser locale depressive
  01/08/18
She wasn't fired for cause. She was fired because they were ...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
they can't produce some document chain showing this (or cre...
hairraiser locale depressive
  01/08/18
I guess they could, but her discharge papers say not for cau...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
What happened
Magical new version
  01/08/18
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overrated racy den jap
  01/08/18
Small business owners went postal.
amethyst shrine
  01/08/18
Still here. They are at 200K right now. We are at 800K. Ther...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
pls list out the various demands/offers that led you to a 20...
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
No demands. We had a bunch of factual disputes that we worke...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
180. Sounds like a great day for you and your client
Magical new version
  01/08/18
don’t tell me you are just gonna “split the difference” t...
Buck-toothed Hairy Legs Hospital
  01/08/18
They are up to 400K right now. Mediation has been going sloo...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
how involved do you stay in cases during discovery/fact inve...
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
I know every single one of my 300 cases. I regularly speak w...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
Long day, bro
Thriller dilemma rigor
  01/08/18
describe what has happened all day w more detail pls. how ha...
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  01/08/18
I'll do this tomorrow. I'm still here and we are still going...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
are they still paying for atty fees? mediator cost? how much...
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
Each party to bear own costs/fees.
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
180
overrated racy den jap
  01/08/18
Wow, Congrats brother
hairraiser locale depressive
  01/08/18
Who is mediating?
Magical new version
  01/08/18
Mariam Zadeh. She does mostly employment. You probably would...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
Jd from Yeshiva, LLM from Pepperdine. Rare combo!
Diverse Immigrant Mother
  01/08/18
That is kind of weird, actually.
adulterous parlour double fault
  01/09/18
Correct, never heard of her. Seems like a nice day that sur...
Magical new version
  01/08/18
I used her a few years ago. Case didn't settle. Cool lady th...
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  01/09/18
Have we spoken before off board? If not, it sounds like you ...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
Unfortunately I'm a NorCalmo, but I'd love to chat sometime....
Flickering fluffy national security agency stock car
  01/09/18
I have a handful of cases in Norcal (mostly Stockton). Hit m...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
She is good. I use her partner, Krivis, for my higher stakes...
Aqua step-uncle's house azn
  01/09/18
Are you defense or plaintiff's side? What practice areas?
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
We have talked off board, I stay pumo on here. Maybe I shoul...
Aqua step-uncle's house azn
  01/09/18
Oh, I know who you are. Hit me up some time so we can hang o...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
is the payout taxable? if she gets 500K then after your cut ...
purple coldplay fan
  01/08/18
Yes, it is taxed because it is an employment case. If it was...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
A while ago, there was some debate about whether the lawyer'...
Puce up-to-no-good point degenerate
  01/08/18
Recovery paid out in fees is generally taxable to the client...
Plum parlor
  01/09/18
We are paid in a separate check as per settlement agreement....
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
They should usually expect a 1099 that includes the amount o...
Plum parlor
  01/09/18
I'm not really sure. Mediator brought this up and I haven't ...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
Huh. Well that's how it used to work and the statue looks th...
Plum parlor
  01/09/18
Still here... Mediator proposal of $450K. Waiting to hear ba...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
Did you have to travel out of town for it?
Thriller dilemma rigor
  01/08/18
I live in Woodland Hills. The mediation was in Encino. Was a...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
not a bad day for 180K. i mean you could be shoveling shit w...
purple coldplay fan
  01/08/18
But enough about PP’s life
Thriller dilemma rigor
  01/08/18
...
Magical new version
  01/08/18
They arrived there on the merits or just seemed good(split t...
hairraiser locale depressive
  01/08/18
Case settled at 450K. Payment due in 10 business days from e...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/08/18
That was one expensive termination for them. Also lol at ...
swashbuckling disturbing friendly grandma
  01/08/18
10 days seems awfully quick. isnt the norm 30 biz days?
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
I try to get as fast as we can. I like to be aggressive with...
Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender
  01/09/18
from start to finish, how many hours do you estimate you put...
dashing affirmative action
  01/08/18
Maybe 60 hours. A third of that was probably mediation and m...
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  01/09/18
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hairraiser locale depressive
  01/08/18
Nice work man - roast those PiGs
startled macaca meetinghouse
  01/09/18
1) hypo - they dont budge for more than 150K and most likely...
purple coldplay fan
  01/09/18
1. We had a strong case. If we hit my guess would be high si...
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  01/09/18
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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I do mostly PI but I take on the occasional employment case if it is a good one.

I'm sitting in a mediation right now on a wrongful term. Client worked for a company doing marketing. Several months before she was pregnant, a company was hired to outsource some of her company's work. The invoices never included any worked performed by my client. Once my client let them know she was pregnant, the next invoice showed her role being outsource and she was fired two weeks later. Client has been unable to find a job for a year because she was pregnant for several months and then she had the baby and has been with him the last 5 months. She actively attempted to mitigate by looking for work, but of course no one is going to hire a pregnant woman or one with a newborn baby.

We demanded 1 million. Their first offer is 50K + attorneys fees/costs. Taking guesses on where this will settle. I'm thinking 200-300K. It is probably worth more but there is no insurance so the owners are paying out of pocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110077)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Aqua step-uncle's house azn

How big is this co and how much was she being paid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110087)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

She was making slightly over 100K. Company is about 50 people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110096)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: heady rehab main people

wtf were they thinking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110103)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Very successful small business owners tend to be great at making money, but they fuck up HR/Employment issues all day long. They tend to get tunnel vision I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110120)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Stirring twinkling uncleanness

My last company was this way, still tightly run by it's founders. They meddled with HR issues to the point I was no longer comfortable having my reputation associated with the company (by the end, I also had HR functions reporting to me). I GTFO as soon as I could because for my job function any reputation black marks make me a no go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110308)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: overrated racy den jap

350k is my guess. They are offering a lot already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110316)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Talented primrose liquid oxygen death wish

Do they pay for atty fees? I mean, does the settlement include your atty fees or is that a separate figure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110127)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

heh, oh they will have a little talk about that ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110138)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

We take 40% attorneys fees. If we were awarded attorneys fees we would get those if they were greater than 40%. If there are not, we just roll them into the total settlement and take 40% of everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110159)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: scarlet plaza associate

How does this go down brother. Seems like there are going to be ethical issues

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111133)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

This is the norm. Welcome to California.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111152)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

nice case, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110133)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: frum pozpig

I thought this was about not using someone's preferred pronouns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110180)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Juries in LA are mostly hispanics and poors. They woudn't award money for stuff like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110197)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: heady rehab main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110328)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: odious wild indian lodge

Case is worth more than that, and they’re idiots for not buying EPL insurance. I wouldn’t settle for $200-300k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110206)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

The case is clearly worth more, but a lot of small business owners only have so much liquid cash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110214)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110494)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: odious wild indian lodge

I find it hard to believe that a company with 50 people on the payroll is such a small business that they can’t accrue $500k payable later this year. They can write off the settlement anyway.

Pregnant woman in labor friendly state with good facts is hard to stop litigating for a low value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111499)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

Nobody wants "payable later this year."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111741)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:05 PM
Author: odious wild indian lodge

She can get $150-200k upfront and the rest later + short term interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111789)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

I know how its supposed to work.

What PI atty wants to do collections work in 6 months time when the company says nah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111811)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: odious wild indian lodge

Secured promissory note with stipulated judgment to be entered upon default. Lol at the idea you have to chase around the defendant to get your money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111849)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 7:31 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

so you have judgment. and then ...

Lol at thinking they just say okay and stroke you a check.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35112345)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I got 450K, how do you feel about that number?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115303)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 7:48 AM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

Nice work! I thought $490 when you said $500 as I knew they'd kick and scream paying out their total reserve at 500. Goddamn nice job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115922)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Crystalline stage mexican

so you think they just made it up? are you sure none of her work was outsourced?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110243)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

We have dozens of documents supporting all of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110269)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Stirring twinkling uncleanness

How did you get the docs, did she walk out with them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110317)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

She saved some of the e-mails/text messages, some we got through discovery, and some from disgruntled former employees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110327)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: Stirring twinkling uncleanness

Got it, so you're already into discovery. Surprised they didn't try and settle before getting to that phase. Was it pretty targeted and easy for them to produce? The texts are probably hers assuming they went to her phone. No issue with saving emails, possibly violation of company policy to do so?

I'm more familiar with matters where discovery starts at 6 figures and goes up from there, so it's usually a motivator for parties to try to work out an agreement first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110348)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

how do you manage client's expectations re settlement outcomes? that is, to get them stingy enough to keep pressing for the highest valuation possible, but to also rein them in to not demand to go forward with a case to trial despite a reasonable settlement offer at mediation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110343)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

My clients love me. I have a great relationship with them. I almost never have client control issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110346)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

sure, but do you estimate case value at the onset of the relationship? surely they ask if they have a solid case and what you think its worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110365)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I knew it was multi-six figures initially, but you learn a lot in discovery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110680)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: pungent bossy gunner kitchen

IN addition to being well organized and networking well, this is another major skill CSLG has that makes him a unicorn.

Most of is are not able to be consistently likeable. I can turn it on when I need to, but can't be likeable more than 1 hour a day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110594)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: indecent soul-stirring nursing home cumskin

As an employer, what are commmon things that we can do to prevent HR/employment issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110693)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Supple medicated weed whacker

get w atty for five minutes before you want to fire somebody, for one thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110722)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Thriller dilemma rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111165)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: pungent bossy gunner kitchen

(1) For all employees -- always consistently document reasons why they can/should be fired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110737)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Thriller dilemma rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111166)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: indecent soul-stirring nursing home cumskin

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111740)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: judgmental wagecucks chapel

My guess is 225k. Starting at 50k is a good sign.

Plaintiff's employment cases are the pits, I do them too sometimes, and one bad fact and your case can totally fall apart on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35110979)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 1:43 AM
Author: Comical kink-friendly senate

E.g.s of bad facts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115342)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: judgmental wagecucks chapel

I had a great pregnancy discrimination case for a manager at a Circle K, everything lined up right, terminated for bullshit reason, one year into litigation ID attorney finds video of her pocketing cash from a register. DONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35117131)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: apoplectic boyish site

This is what I would've guessed. But California has no damages caps on employment cases - in federal court you'd be limited to lost wages + $50K in punitives for a company this size. A buckwild LA jury easily award 20 times that amount to a sympathetic pregnant woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35116546)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: hairraiser locale depressive

they couldn't produce paperwork documenting this as pre-arranged/her failures as an employee/etc.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111005)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

She wasn't fired for cause. She was fired because they were "eliminating her position."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111101)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: hairraiser locale depressive

they can't produce some document chain showing this

(or create it or offer credible witnesses to say that)?

or does it not matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111115)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I guess they could, but her discharge papers say not for cause. So her performance is irrelevant. But even if it was, she has tons and tons of e-mails showing praise for her good work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111159)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Magical new version

What happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111792)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: overrated racy den jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111796)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: amethyst shrine

Small business owners went postal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111848)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Still here. They are at 200K right now. We are at 800K. There has been a lot of back and forth on facts. Now we are finally into the negotiation. It looks like we may get to 400K+ the way things are going. Much better than I expected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35111996)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

pls list out the various demands/offers that led you to a 200 - 800 offer/demand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35112008)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

No demands. We had a bunch of factual disputes that we worked through with the mediator. Then mediator asked us to come off the million. We said we would if they came up to 200K. So there has only been one move. Waiting for mediator to come back to the room still. Just working and eating a sandwich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35112124)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Magical new version

180. Sounds like a great day for you and your client

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35112116)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Hairy Legs Hospital

don’t tell me you are just gonna “split the difference”

that’s a huge prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35112122)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

They are up to 400K right now. Mediation has been going sloooooow. But I think we are going to end at 500K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113096)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

how involved do you stay in cases during discovery/fact investigation phases? or do you just get involved for client sign up and resolution? if the former, how do you track and remember facts for 100+ cases at once?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113640)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I know every single one of my 300 cases. I regularly speak with the clients and have a personal relationship with all of them. I spend half a day once per week going through EVERY single file and refreshing myself on the current status. I also have a good memory too I guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113807)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: Thriller dilemma rigor

Long day, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113647)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: Splenetic Theater Stage Scourge Upon The Earth

describe what has happened all day w more detail pls. how have you got them up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113666)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:40 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I'll do this tomorrow. I'm still here and we are still going lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113815)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

are they still paying for atty fees? mediator cost? how much is your mediator?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113825)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Each party to bear own costs/fees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113954)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: overrated racy den jap

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113674)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: hairraiser locale depressive

Wow, Congrats brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113676)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: Magical new version

Who is mediating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113829)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Mariam Zadeh. She does mostly employment. You probably wouldn't know her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113951)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: Diverse Immigrant Mother

Jd from Yeshiva, LLM from Pepperdine. Rare combo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114044)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:39 AM
Author: adulterous parlour double fault

That is kind of weird, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115510)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Magical new version

Correct, never heard of her. Seems like a nice day that surpassed your expectations though. Congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114131)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: Flickering fluffy national security agency stock car

I used her a few years ago. Case didn't settle. Cool lady though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115476)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Have we spoken before off board? If not, it sounds like you are in LA. We should chat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115479)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:33 AM
Author: Flickering fluffy national security agency stock car

Unfortunately I'm a NorCalmo, but I'd love to chat sometime. Big fan of your work on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115495)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I have a handful of cases in Norcal (mostly Stockton). Hit me up on my throwaway (calishitlawguru@gmail.com). We could probably cross-refer up there. I have a decent network in the bay area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35116477)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Aqua step-uncle's house azn

She is good. I use her partner, Krivis, for my higher stakes complex insurance disputes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35117121)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:08 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Are you defense or plaintiff's side? What practice areas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35117173)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Aqua step-uncle's house azn

We have talked off board, I stay pumo on here. Maybe I should change to sudo. I'm Alex's friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35117205)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Oh, I know who you are. Hit me up some time so we can hang out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35117280)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: purple coldplay fan

is the payout taxable? if she gets 500K then after your cut thats 300K. after tax its probably 200K or so. not bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113653)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Yes, it is taxed because it is an employment case. If it was PI there would be no taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35113780)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Puce up-to-no-good point degenerate

A while ago, there was some debate about whether the lawyer's cut is taxable to the client. What's the status of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114159)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 1:45 AM
Author: Plum parlor

Recovery paid out in fees is generally taxable to the client, but many employment cases get an above the line deduction for the fees they paid, which negates it. Check IRC 62a20 and 62e

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115352)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

We are paid in a separate check as per settlement agreement. Also, Trump fucked up the tax code and right now it reads as though client has to pay taxes on attorneys fees as well, but that is getting corrected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115392)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:00 AM
Author: Plum parlor

They should usually expect a 1099 that includes the amount of your check too, right? But then get the deduction so it washes out. Did they fuck with irc 62 or 104? I wasn't aware of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115412)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:01 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I'm not really sure. Mediator brought this up and I haven't had a chance to look into it yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115416)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: Plum parlor

Huh. Well that's how it used to work and the statue looks the same to me but I haven't done employment stuff in years so I don't follow that. Either way you and your client got paid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115428)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Still here... Mediator proposal of $450K. Waiting to hear back if the other side accepts. I think this one is going to settle. I'm fucking exhausted. Been here since 10am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114068)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:05 PM
Author: Thriller dilemma rigor

Did you have to travel out of town for it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114102)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I live in Woodland Hills. The mediation was in Encino. Was about 15-20 minutes away from my house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114247)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: purple coldplay fan

not a bad day for 180K. i mean you could be shoveling shit without a shirt in 110 degree weather in India for $3 per day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114118)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Thriller dilemma rigor

But enough about PP’s life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114127)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Magical new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114129)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: hairraiser locale depressive

They arrived there on the merits or just seemed good(split the difference) to them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114152)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Case settled at 450K. Payment due in 10 business days from execution (which is today). Fucking exhausted. Finishing up the long form agreement and then going home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114271)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: swashbuckling disturbing friendly grandma

That was one expensive termination for them.

Also lol at this lady not even getting 2 yrs of her salary after atty fees and taxes. Jfc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114311)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

10 days seems awfully quick. isnt the norm 30 biz days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114316)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

I try to get as fast as we can. I like to be aggressive with payment terms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114750)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: dashing affirmative action

from start to finish, how many hours do you estimate you put into this case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114321)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

Maybe 60 hours. A third of that was probably mediation and mediation prep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114739)



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Date: January 8th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: hairraiser locale depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114390)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: startled macaca meetinghouse

Nice work man - roast those PiGs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35114816)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:10 AM
Author: purple coldplay fan

1) hypo - they dont budge for more than 150K and most likely you wouldn't have accepted. chances of winning at trial and expected payout?

2) hypo - client refuses 450K and says not a dollar less than 750. Then what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115433)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:14 AM
Author: Razzmatazz indigo quadroon sex offender

1. We had a strong case. If we hit my guess would be high six figures. But, there was some damaging evidence that she was selling a competing product while working there in violation of company policy (which she had a reasonable explanation for). I think chances of a plaintiff's verdict was probably 70-80%. Client also needed money now and didn't want to wait a year to get paid. Right now her husband is working crazy overtime, they have a new baby, and the 250K they netted will help them out.

2. We would have tried the case. I'm not afraid to take it to trial. But more likely we probably would have mediated again after depos/closer to trial and it would have settled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115442)



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Date: January 9th, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: purple coldplay fan

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3853242&forum_id=2#35115486)