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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
Naked flushed tattoo
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
opaque vigorous corner
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
motley dragon public bath
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Titillating station
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Trip Fuchsia Stag Film Potus
  01/17/18
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Black Center Mexican
  01/17/18
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irradiated senate
  01/17/18
...
Medicated excitant pit
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
maroon narrow-minded parlour
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
obsidian laughsome piazza police squad
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
soul-stirring massive fat ankles
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
out-of-control cerebral ticket booth giraffe
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
Naked flushed tattoo
  01/17/18
diversity
Trip Fuchsia Stag Film Potus
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
Blue half-breed
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
godawful maize dilemma shitlib
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
histrionic idiot rigpig
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
Naked flushed tattoo
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
Passionate Hyperactive Location
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
histrionic idiot rigpig
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
Naked flushed tattoo
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
awkward concupiscible stage
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
Naked flushed tattoo
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Carmine prole
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Carmine prole
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
mustard liquid oxygen weed whacker
  01/17/18
??
Carmine prole
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
mustard liquid oxygen weed whacker
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
thirsty principal's office
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
filthy space
  01/17/18
Link?
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
Sapphire toaster
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
Blue half-breed
  01/17/18
Lol
Razzle-dazzle university
  01/17/18
...
vivacious claret abode faggotry
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
mustard liquid oxygen weed whacker
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
razzmatazz athletic conference mother
  01/17/18
...
Trip Fuchsia Stag Film Potus
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
Brass marvelous personal credit line
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Emerald hateful crackhouse blood rage
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
Medicated excitant pit
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
Burgundy Resort
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
curious chartreuse hall people who are hurt
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
Medicated excitant pit
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Naked flushed tattoo

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: opaque vigorous corner

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: motley dragon public bath

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Titillating station

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Trip Fuchsia Stag Film Potus

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Black Center Mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: irradiated senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Medicated excitant pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: maroon narrow-minded parlour

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: obsidian laughsome piazza police squad

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: soul-stirring massive fat ankles

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: out-of-control cerebral ticket booth giraffe

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Naked flushed tattoo

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Trip Fuchsia Stag Film Potus

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Blue half-breed

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: godawful maize dilemma shitlib

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: histrionic idiot rigpig

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Naked flushed tattoo

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Passionate Hyperactive Location

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: histrionic idiot rigpig

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Naked flushed tattoo

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: awkward concupiscible stage

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Naked flushed tattoo

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Carmine prole

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Carmine prole

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: mustard liquid oxygen weed whacker

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Carmine prole

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: mustard liquid oxygen weed whacker

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: thirsty principal's office

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: filthy space

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Sapphire toaster

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Blue half-breed

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle university

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: vivacious claret abode faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: mustard liquid oxygen weed whacker

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: razzmatazz athletic conference mother

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Trip Fuchsia Stag Film Potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Brass marvelous personal credit line

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Emerald hateful crackhouse blood rage

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Medicated excitant pit

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Burgundy Resort

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: curious chartreuse hall people who are hurt

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Medicated excitant pit

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)