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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
beta beady-eyed laser beams
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
Magenta Nursing Home
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
narrow-minded private investor
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Zombie-like legend corner
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Stimulating dull market
  01/17/18
...
hilarious heady rehab
  01/17/18
...
orange parlor pozpig
  01/17/18
...
Onyx curious affirmative action lay
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
Glittery sticky point nowag
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
talking temple newt
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
fear-inspiring stead
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
irradiated demanding hell old irish cottage
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
beta beady-eyed laser beams
  01/17/18
diversity
Stimulating dull market
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
shimmering provocative fanboi halford
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
Apoplectic selfie
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Sienna Deranged Becky
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
beta beady-eyed laser beams
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
Lascivious elastic band
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Sienna Deranged Becky
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
beta beady-eyed laser beams
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Black pistol
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
beta beady-eyed laser beams
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Fluffy university
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Fluffy university
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
boyish kitchen
  01/17/18
??
Fluffy university
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
boyish kitchen
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
hot hissy fit half-breed
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
mewling carmine theatre jap
  01/17/18
Link?
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
gay at-the-ready parlour
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
shimmering provocative fanboi halford
  01/17/18
Lol
Vigorous garrison azn
  01/17/18
...
nofapping dilemma
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
boyish kitchen
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
multi-colored orchid heaven pervert
  01/17/18
...
Stimulating dull market
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
anal low-t chad box office
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Jade dashing piazza bbw
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
Onyx curious affirmative action lay
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
clear office turdskin
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
Racy Sound Barrier
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
Onyx curious affirmative action lay
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: beta beady-eyed laser beams

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Magenta Nursing Home

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: narrow-minded private investor

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Zombie-like legend corner

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Stimulating dull market

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: hilarious heady rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: orange parlor pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Onyx curious affirmative action lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Glittery sticky point nowag

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: talking temple newt

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: fear-inspiring stead

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: irradiated demanding hell old irish cottage

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: beta beady-eyed laser beams

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Stimulating dull market

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: shimmering provocative fanboi halford

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Apoplectic selfie

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Sienna Deranged Becky

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: beta beady-eyed laser beams

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Lascivious elastic band

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Sienna Deranged Becky

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: beta beady-eyed laser beams

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Black pistol

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: beta beady-eyed laser beams

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Fluffy university

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Fluffy university

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: boyish kitchen

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Fluffy university

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: boyish kitchen

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: hot hissy fit half-breed

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: mewling carmine theatre jap

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: gay at-the-ready parlour

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: shimmering provocative fanboi halford

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: Vigorous garrison azn

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: nofapping dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: boyish kitchen

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: multi-colored orchid heaven pervert

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Stimulating dull market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: anal low-t chad box office

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Jade dashing piazza bbw

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Onyx curious affirmative action lay

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: clear office turdskin

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Racy Sound Barrier

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Onyx curious affirmative action lay

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)