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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
orchid arrogant windowlicker
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
walnut volcanic crater temple
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
Gay site
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
maroon provocative black woman
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Buck-toothed Philosopher-king Center
  01/17/18
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pink beady-eyed gaping
  01/17/18
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charismatic fear-inspiring den mad cow disease
  01/17/18
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Garnet boyish macaca
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
exhilarant main people space
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
Vibrant native knife
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
chocolate metal home useless brakes
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
Very Tactful Whorehouse
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
orchid arrogant windowlicker
  01/17/18
diversity
Buck-toothed Philosopher-king Center
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
Soul-stirring mahogany corn cake national
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
Marvelous kitchen tattoo
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
180 abode
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
sable crusty institution feces
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
orchid arrogant windowlicker
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
Shimmering Alcoholic Theatre Nowag
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
180 abode
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
sable crusty institution feces
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
180 abode
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
orchid arrogant windowlicker
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
180 abode
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
know-it-all hairy legs immigrant
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
orchid arrogant windowlicker
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Chartreuse jap tanning salon
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
180 abode
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Chartreuse jap tanning salon
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
Exciting Stead
  01/17/18
??
Chartreuse jap tanning salon
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
Exciting Stead
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
Zombie-like School
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
useless becky
  01/17/18
Link?
180 abode
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
180 abode
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
Soul-stirring mahogany corn cake national
  01/17/18
Lol
costumed titillating church building
  01/17/18
...
iridescent multi-colored plaza ratface
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
Exciting Stead
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
Citrine splenetic crackhouse
  01/17/18
...
Buck-toothed Philosopher-king Center
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
light irate cumskin dog poop
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
turquoise appetizing public bath
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
Garnet boyish macaca
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
fragrant stage shitlib
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
Bateful Lime Church Halford
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
Garnet boyish macaca
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: orchid arrogant windowlicker

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: walnut volcanic crater temple

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Gay site

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: maroon provocative black woman

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Philosopher-king Center

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: pink beady-eyed gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: charismatic fear-inspiring den mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Garnet boyish macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: exhilarant main people space

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Vibrant native knife

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: chocolate metal home useless brakes

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Very Tactful Whorehouse

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: orchid arrogant windowlicker

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Philosopher-king Center

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Soul-stirring mahogany corn cake national

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Marvelous kitchen tattoo

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: 180 abode

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: sable crusty institution feces

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: orchid arrogant windowlicker

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Shimmering Alcoholic Theatre Nowag

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: 180 abode

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: sable crusty institution feces

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: 180 abode

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: orchid arrogant windowlicker

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: 180 abode

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: know-it-all hairy legs immigrant

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: orchid arrogant windowlicker

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Chartreuse jap tanning salon

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: 180 abode

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Chartreuse jap tanning salon

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Exciting Stead

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Chartreuse jap tanning salon

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Exciting Stead

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Zombie-like School

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: useless becky

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: 180 abode

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: 180 abode

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Soul-stirring mahogany corn cake national

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: costumed titillating church building

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: iridescent multi-colored plaza ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Exciting Stead

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Citrine splenetic crackhouse

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Philosopher-king Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: light irate cumskin dog poop

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: turquoise appetizing public bath

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Garnet boyish macaca

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: fragrant stage shitlib

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Bateful Lime Church Halford

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Garnet boyish macaca

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)