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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
Translucent milk space
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
marvelous principal's office
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
dashing roommate
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Massive brethren
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Copper set
  01/17/18
...
Gold immigrant internal respiration
  01/17/18
...
outnumbered senate volcanic crater
  01/17/18
...
slimy center private investor
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
Swollen cracking new version public bath
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
Thriller Library Dog Poop
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
bearded stag film queen of the night
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
Pearly razzle round eye trump supporter
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
Translucent milk space
  01/17/18
diversity
Copper set
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
Multi-colored Piazza Jew
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
talented spot
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Henna address french chef
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
Translucent milk space
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
Contagious Plum Blood Rage
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Henna address french chef
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
Translucent milk space
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
sable double fault institution
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
Translucent milk space
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
Violet adulterous pit cumskin
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
Violet adulterous pit cumskin
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
hideous comical headpube mad-dog skullcap
  01/17/18
??
Violet adulterous pit cumskin
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
hideous comical headpube mad-dog skullcap
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
fragrant brass nowag scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
ruddy razzle-dazzle voyeur
  01/17/18
Link?
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
Multi-colored Piazza Jew
  01/17/18
Lol
High-end Effete Karate
  01/17/18
...
Pontificating Church Building Trust Fund
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
hideous comical headpube mad-dog skullcap
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
Lemon Tanning Salon
  01/17/18
...
Copper set
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
fishy nubile property
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
gaped lay incel
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
slimy center private investor
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
Crystalline overrated giraffe
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
passionate national security agency
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
slimy center private investor
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Translucent milk space

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: marvelous principal's office

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: dashing roommate

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Massive brethren

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Copper set

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Gold immigrant internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: outnumbered senate volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: slimy center private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Swollen cracking new version public bath

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Thriller Library Dog Poop

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: bearded stag film queen of the night

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Pearly razzle round eye trump supporter

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Translucent milk space

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Copper set

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Multi-colored Piazza Jew

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: talented spot

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Henna address french chef

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Translucent milk space

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Contagious Plum Blood Rage

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Henna address french chef

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Translucent milk space

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: sable double fault institution

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Translucent milk space

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Violet adulterous pit cumskin

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Violet adulterous pit cumskin

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: hideous comical headpube mad-dog skullcap

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Violet adulterous pit cumskin

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: hideous comical headpube mad-dog skullcap

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: fragrant brass nowag scourge upon the earth

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: ruddy razzle-dazzle voyeur

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: blathering kitchen twinkling uncleanness

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Multi-colored Piazza Jew

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: High-end Effete Karate

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Pontificating Church Building Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: hideous comical headpube mad-dog skullcap

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: Lemon Tanning Salon

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Copper set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: fishy nubile property

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: gaped lay incel

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: slimy center private investor

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Crystalline overrated giraffe

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: passionate national security agency

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: slimy center private investor

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)