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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
indecent karate hospital
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
Bronze Area
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
well-lubricated bonkers coffee pot spot
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
Laughsome House Idiot
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
Citrine startling messiness immigrant
  01/17/18
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Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse
  01/17/18
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ruby state blood rage
  01/17/18
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aromatic orchid coldplay fan gas station
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
filthy fishy pistol
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
salmon dashing knife party of the first part
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
cobalt cruise ship new version
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
wonderful nubile station legal warrant
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
indecent karate hospital
  01/17/18
diversity
Citrine startling messiness immigrant
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
Vibrant national
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
exciting shivering scourge upon the earth
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Sapphire Brunch Fat Ankles
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
indecent karate hospital
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
Sick Dull Weed Whacker Stead
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Sapphire Brunch Fat Ankles
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
indecent karate hospital
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Histrionic copper parlour
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
indecent karate hospital
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
aqua excitant brethren stag film
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
aqua excitant brethren stag film
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
Flirting adventurous whorehouse
  01/17/18
??
aqua excitant brethren stag film
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
Flirting adventurous whorehouse
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
idiotic floppy menage wrinkle
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
Flushed Regret Base
  01/17/18
Link?
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
Vibrant national
  01/17/18
Lol
spectacular therapy factory reset button
  01/17/18
...
Cerise abnormal principal's office
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
Flirting adventurous whorehouse
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
irradiated useless casino sex offender
  01/17/18
...
Citrine startling messiness immigrant
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
Sexy Low-t Dragon
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
Soul-stirring chocolate locus
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
aromatic orchid coldplay fan gas station
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
Aphrodisiac twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
Supple address
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
aromatic orchid coldplay fan gas station
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: indecent karate hospital

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Bronze Area

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: well-lubricated bonkers coffee pot spot

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Laughsome House Idiot

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: Citrine startling messiness immigrant

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: ruby state blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: aromatic orchid coldplay fan gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: filthy fishy pistol

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: salmon dashing knife party of the first part

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: cobalt cruise ship new version

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: wonderful nubile station legal warrant

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: indecent karate hospital

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Citrine startling messiness immigrant

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Vibrant national

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: exciting shivering scourge upon the earth

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Sapphire Brunch Fat Ankles

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: indecent karate hospital

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Sick Dull Weed Whacker Stead

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Sapphire Brunch Fat Ankles

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: indecent karate hospital

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Histrionic copper parlour

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: indecent karate hospital

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: aqua excitant brethren stag film

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: aqua excitant brethren stag film

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Flirting adventurous whorehouse

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: aqua excitant brethren stag film

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Flirting adventurous whorehouse

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: idiotic floppy menage wrinkle

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Flushed Regret Base

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Fragrant Violent Hairy Legs

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Vibrant national

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: spectacular therapy factory reset button

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Cerise abnormal principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Flirting adventurous whorehouse

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: irradiated useless casino sex offender

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Citrine startling messiness immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Sexy Low-t Dragon

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Soul-stirring chocolate locus

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: aromatic orchid coldplay fan gas station

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac twinkling uncleanness

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Supple address

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: aromatic orchid coldplay fan gas station

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)