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full blown war with China starts right now. who wins?

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tan bat-shit-crazy hospital
  01/20/18
US, but both sides hurt a lot
Comical mother dilemma
  01/20/18
Explain how the US manages to project sufficient power over ...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
from japan and phillipines.
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
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tan bat-shit-crazy hospital
  01/20/18
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Comical mother dilemma
  01/20/18
What made Japan and the Philippines decide that this week wa...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
they have no choice. half of japan lives here and 90% of phi...
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
Just do be obliterated from existence because of remittance ...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
we have bases all over there and then everyone would post up...
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
LJL, no. If a war was really brewing the US would quickly fi...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
we're using bases currently; this isn't sealed up shit from ...
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
Incirlik isnt "sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand....
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
"utter annihilation" Right. Because that happen...
Flirting station
  01/20/18
Russians aren't "obliterating" anyone. Be serious....
Flirting station
  01/20/18
lol shut the fuck up faggot literally no one gives a fuck ab...
frum house-broken locale indirect expression
  01/21/18
without resorting to copy pasting from Janes Defense Weekly,...
Comical mother dilemma
  01/20/18
DF-41 the 3 American carrier battle groups the US is actuall...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
Power is protected on the tip of ICBMs which pulverize china...
mischievous senate
  01/21/18
US is not opening the war with 50 nuclear strikes
Heady chest-beating chad institution
  01/21/18
china hasn't fought a war since the nips blew their assholes...
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
And? The entire Chinese army is built from floor to ceiling ...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
Why, exactly? So China can slowly take over all of eastern R...
Flirting station
  01/20/18
Eastern Russia is an impenetrable swamp where tanks sink lik...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
They are taking it over by moving in the population anyway, ...
Flirting station
  01/20/18
They are not because its impenetrable and any humans making ...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
the United States has the most battle-tested and combat-read...
twisted locus affirmative action
  01/20/18
Yep, and it just managed to lose every war since Korea.
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
Not "lose" militarily. Dumb wars strategically. O...
Flirting station
  01/20/18
I do believe Putin showed in Syria that the US is not alone ...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
The why is essential, actually. The USSR had a much stronger...
Flirting station
  01/20/18
One traitor named Gorbachev.
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/21/18
The reason matters a lot. You can't seriously think otherwis...
carnelian stain
  01/21/18
the USA is so good at war that it had to play the game on ex...
twisted locus affirmative action
  01/21/18
somehow, cohen benefits
Red degenerate
  01/20/18
lol
deep bronze dopamine giraffe
  01/20/18
literally
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
Any discussion here would at best be like WWI generals talki...
vengeful magenta weed whacker
  01/20/18
Not seeing a problem. Once you're all dead the Soviets can j...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
before any open conflict breaks out, both China and the US w...
vengeful magenta weed whacker
  01/20/18
the chinese rely on our our sats.
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
For what exactly?
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
seeing shit, copying shit, trying to fix shit.
fear-inspiring marvelous rehab
  01/20/18
None of this is true. Russia, China and the US have wholly i...
Brass alpha theater stage
  01/20/18
Every non military entity on Earth uses GPS in some capacity
Impressive transparent business firm jew
  01/21/18
They can cut cable lines, detonate underwater nukes and caus...
Arousing space mood
  01/21/18
And although it wasn't quite full scale total warfare, the c...
Arousing space mood
  01/21/18
How is Russia's birth rate these days? Russia clearly found ...
Flirting station
  01/20/18
No answer.
Flirting station
  01/21/18
Morons ITT ignoring the obvious. The war would go nuclear si...
mischievous senate
  01/21/18
Yeah surprised how badly all of the other answers are - the ...
cracking people who are hurt state
  01/21/18
Oh, fortuitous nuclear annihilation.
carnelian stain
  01/21/18
China's second strike capability is enough to deter the USA....
rebellious meetinghouse
  01/21/18
What second strike capability? Mobile icbm launchers? Doubt ...
mischievous senate
  01/21/18
dependent on how it starts. asking who wins us v. china is l...
Overrated diverse library regret
  01/21/18
correct
motley chocolate factory reset button corn cake
  01/21/18
Why does ARE Reptile always get so giddy in military threads...
pearl temple
  01/21/18
Literally no one in the Chinese "military" has bee...
French Brilliant Community Account
  01/21/18
One thing is certain, they would try to pee pee in our Coke....
razzmatazz athletic conference corner
  01/21/18


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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: tan bat-shit-crazy hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200564)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: Comical mother dilemma

US, but both sides hurt a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200573)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

Explain how the US manages to project sufficient power over China to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200579)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

from japan and phillipines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200580)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: tan bat-shit-crazy hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200581)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Comical mother dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200583)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

What made Japan and the Philippines decide that this week was a good week to stop existing exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200610)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

they have no choice. half of japan lives here and 90% of phillipines gets checks from family here; hell all the catholic churches there are neighborhood scams funded by dumb/too busy family over here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200668)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

Just do be obliterated from existence because of remittance payments. Yeah, Duterte aint that crazy (and he hates the US) and the Japanese are too chicken shit to even face down N.Korea let alone China.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200698)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:37 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

we have bases all over there and then everyone would post up in japan, s korea, and phill, plus austrailia will help. and russia will help because they think they can control or live with americans but nobody in the world would want to mix and live with china if given a choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200711)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

LJL, no. If a war was really brewing the US would quickly find how worthless most of those bases are just like it did in Turkey when the Turks quickly killed OPs out of Incirlik when they felt like it. Truly useful foreign bases require a promise to massacre the fuck out of the locals if they get in the way.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200739)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

we're using bases currently; this isn't sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200743)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

Incirlik isnt "sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand." It is the largest US base in the region but when Turkey was pissed off it shut down all US flights into and out of it in about 1 minutes time and this dynamic applies to basically all US foreign bases. Your using them for BS ops and show the flag nonsense. The locals have the capability to shut down those bases and they would if they thought US ops risked their utter annihilation. US bases are not like Soviet bases in Eastern Europe which were built expressly around the idea of murdering the fuck out of the locals if they got in the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200776)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Flirting station

"utter annihilation"

Right. Because that happens all the time, countries being annihilated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200828)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: Flirting station

Russians aren't "obliterating" anyone. Be serious. Putin is trying to incrementally strengthen his position regionally because NATO probably went too far in the 1990s. That's far different.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200772)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: frum house-broken locale indirect expression

lol shut the fuck up faggot literally no one gives a fuck about your cold war fantasies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201314)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: Comical mother dilemma

without resorting to copy pasting from Janes Defense Weekly, explain how China does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200582)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

DF-41 the 3 American carrier battle groups the US is actually capable of deploying. War over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200602)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: mischievous senate

Power is protected on the tip of ICBMs which pulverize china’s biggest 50 cities within 30 minutes. The chinks take out LA and San Fran in the process. war over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200905)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: Heady chest-beating chad institution

US is not opening the war with 50 nuclear strikes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35207011)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

china hasn't fought a war since the nips blew their assholes out in ww2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200575)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

And? The entire Chinese army is built from floor to ceiling by the Russians who have fought wars a plenty. Read up on Peace Mission 2005. The Chicoms sent troops to Russia for war gaming. The Chicoms were flying their attack helos too high. The Russkies explained to them that they were deploying their entire helicopter force wrong. The Russkies then trained up the entire PLA on air mobile assault over a 2 year period. They did this pretty much across every branch and specialty. Since that time Peace Mission has become a bi-annual tradition and has been augmented with additional now pretty much quarterly exchanges. The Russkies and Chicoms even share a common airspace command center. And they maintain a joint SARSAT constellation. It aint NATO but only because it's more efficient than TTT cash wasting NATO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200598)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Flirting station

Why, exactly? So China can slowly take over all of eastern Russia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200646)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

Eastern Russia is an impenetrable swamp where tanks sink like stones. Aint no threat of any of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200675)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Flirting station

They are taking it over by moving in the population anyway, no bullets needed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200700)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

They are not because its impenetrable and any humans making the crossing die. There is basically zero Chinese migration to Russia except like 50,000-60,000 temp workers in Vladivostok almost none of whom end up staying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200720)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: twisted locus affirmative action

the United States has the most battle-tested and combat-ready military in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200653)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

Yep, and it just managed to lose every war since Korea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200681)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: Flirting station

Not "lose" militarily. Dumb wars strategically. Only the USA can fight half-way around the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200727)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

I do believe Putin showed in Syria that the US is not alone in being able to fight halfway around the world though in the Russian context with Russia sitting on a dozen time zones there is no point that is actually halfway around the world from holy mother Russia. And the why of your losing is irrelevant to the fact that you keep losing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200748)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: Flirting station

The why is essential, actually. The USSR had a much stronger military than western europe during the cold war. Why didn't the USSR come to dominate all of europe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200786)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

One traitor named Gorbachev.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200836)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 3:27 AM
Author: carnelian stain

The reason matters a lot. You can't seriously think otherwise. If you lose because you're restraining yourself for political reasons that don't apply later, you'd be foolish to cite the prior self-imposed loss as predictive of the outcome subsequent war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201427)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: twisted locus affirmative action

the USA is so good at war that it had to play the game on expert mode by creating absurd rules of engagement etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201219)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Red degenerate

somehow, cohen benefits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200597)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: deep bronze dopamine giraffe

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200599)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

literally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200673)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: vengeful magenta weed whacker

Any discussion here would at best be like WWI generals talking WWII strategy. There would be no winners in a full scale war between China and the US.

China would shoot down and disable our satellites and we'd do the same to them. We'd mutually knock out each other's power grid and infrastructure through sleeper viruses. China would dump its treasuries and dollar holdings to cause maximum chaos for our markets. Both societies would be plunged into absolute chaos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200623)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

Not seeing a problem. Once you're all dead the Soviets can just PWN, PWN, PWN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200632)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: vengeful magenta weed whacker

before any open conflict breaks out, both China and the US will have fully anticipated what Russia would do as well. Russia would probably align with China and the US would treat them just the same. I'm confident that Russia already has embedded viruses in the US infrastructure operating systems and could shut down our grid if they wanted. We could probably do the same to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200688)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

the chinese rely on our our sats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200678)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

For what exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200684)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: fear-inspiring marvelous rehab

seeing shit, copying shit, trying to fix shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200695)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:36 PM
Author: Brass alpha theater stage

None of this is true. Russia, China and the US have wholly independent sat constellations and any Chicom corp renting Yankee sats would see its CEO strung up by the balls. And for that matter even the US is protectionist as all fuck in this area. The US government wont rent your sat if you launched it outside of the US now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200702)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:45 AM
Author: Impressive transparent business firm jew

Every non military entity on Earth uses GPS in some capacity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201204)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: Arousing space mood

They can cut cable lines, detonate underwater nukes and cause massive tsunamis, cut off manufacturing exports including some military parts (we could recover with out homegrown manufacture but it wouldn't happen overnight and we'd be hurting for a few years), they have the edge in some areas of cyber warfare, quickly gaining the edge in next gen warfare such as hypersonic missiles that can take out aircraft carriers, etc

There.would.be.no.winners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201331)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 3:15 AM
Author: Arousing space mood

And although it wasn't quite full scale total warfare, the chinese won vs the US in the 2nd half of the Korean War, as well defeat both France and US via their proxy Vietnam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201411)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Flirting station

How is Russia's birth rate these days? Russia clearly found religion in recent years, which is probably good for more children. Correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200803)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: Flirting station

No answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200904)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: mischievous senate

Morons ITT ignoring the obvious. The war would go nuclear since the US cannot and would have no desire to get bogged down in a land war versus a “billion man army.” Our nuclear arsenal is an order of magnitude better than the chinks’.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200928)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: cracking people who are hurt state

Yeah surprised how badly all of the other answers are - the OP said "full blown war". That said China has more than enough nukes to nuke the US to oblivion as well. Result? Tie with both countries smouldering nuked ruins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201332)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: carnelian stain

Oh, fortuitous nuclear annihilation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35204851)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: rebellious meetinghouse

China's second strike capability is enough to deter the USA. Sure, US could wipe China off the map, but China could wipe out 30% of our population and 75% of our GDP.

The more realistic scenario is that the US sinks China's TTT navy and shoots down their TTT airforce. Then US blockades China and shoots cruise missiles are key targets. China's economy would be crippled.

Any US invasion would fail spectacularly, but the USA pwns on neutral territory and uber pwns on the blue water ocean.

If the USA had to invade China, they'd have start starving them out and then wipe them out like rodents. Do shit like wipe out cities rather than fight street by street. I don't see any reason why anyone would do that though. It wouldn't be worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35204875)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: mischievous senate

What second strike capability? Mobile icbm launchers? Doubt the chinks would be coordinated enough to pull of an effective second strike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35206998)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Overrated diverse library regret

dependent on how it starts. asking who wins us v. china is like asking "who wins, UK v germanY??". answer depends on who controls european production, and how the US/USSR are feeling.

if a full blown war develops where the primary view of the developed war is that china started it, china loses. china is nowhere close to self-sufficient and if it gets shut off from even a few major trading partners it goes to hell a lot faster than america would in a similar situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200931)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:38 AM
Author: motley chocolate factory reset button corn cake

correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201627)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:47 AM
Author: pearl temple

Why does ARE Reptile always get so giddy in military threads? Russia's only aircraft carrier is kept afloat by a tug boat. The US military is the most technologically advanced and well funded in the world by orders of magnitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201217)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:49 AM
Author: French Brilliant Community Account

Literally no one in the Chinese "military" has been in combat before. Military shit is unreliable to begin with, but at least America is constantly using ours. Chinese shit -- built by the Chinese btw -- has literally never been used. Yeah they have a billion "people" -- 5'4" illiterate bugmen who eat garbage. LOL their "economy" is based on stealing shit and sending plastic baubles to America, they would be in a crippling depression on day one and the politburo would be pulled out of their palaces by the bugmen and cooked into fried rice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201225)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: razzmatazz athletic conference corner

One thing is certain, they would try to pee pee in our Coke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35207027)