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Wife had normal delivery. Come ITT and GUESS how much the insurance charged!

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...
Mentally Impaired National Security Agency
  02/09/18
Why is a Gynecologist involved.
carmine den
  02/09/18
$40k edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed in...
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Before reading on this is my best guess too.
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$10k.
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$8,000?
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35k.
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  02/09/18
$668,000.
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  02/09/18
$5000
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  02/09/18
70K?
Deep Kitchen
  02/09/18
Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds ple...
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  02/09/18
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Same
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you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw
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  02/09/18
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lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in t...
self-centered obsidian meetinghouse multi-billionaire
  02/09/18
...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%
Domesticated parlour
  02/09/18
not really a partisan issue, hoss.
swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party
  02/09/18
lol
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  02/09/18
JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by...
Deep Kitchen
  02/09/18
...
Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt
  02/09/18
had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they too...
swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party
  02/09/18
daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare,...
thriller tripping wrinkle center
  02/09/18
drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex s...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being ab...
swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party
  02/09/18
physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow,...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
also cr.
swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party
  02/09/18
strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $...
thriller tripping wrinkle center
  02/09/18
it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's o...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar ...
swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party
  02/09/18
It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the...
Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt
  02/09/18
...
swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party
  02/09/18
We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on i...
Internet-worthy Abode Clown
  02/09/18
lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.
claret house nibblets
  02/09/18
? Doctors are fucking faggots.
Internet-worthy Abode Clown
  02/09/18
cr
Internet-worthy Abode Clown
  02/09/18
how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the bi...
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I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current stat...
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So you paid $2500?
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Still an obscene amount of money.
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  02/09/18
Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate...
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15k
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  02/09/18
$5k
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If we had single payer and a government that set prices you ...
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  02/09/18
you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.
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Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of ev...
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Cr
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  02/09/18
cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their...
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  02/09/18
Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run someth...
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having experienced what you blithering retard?
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I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of mi...
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OP makes no sense. Hospital charges for the best possible...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
*mother does all the work* *nurses yell at her for 15 hours...
Deep Kitchen
  02/09/18
the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laugh...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
the idea the we need doctors for something women have done n...
Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt
  02/09/18
and died doing at unnecessary rates
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupt...
Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt
  02/09/18
primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not kn...
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  02/09/18
Cr. Just hang from a rope. https://birthinternational.com...
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That woman looks like she’s just fat
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yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd
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  02/09/18
Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases...
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plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home people ...
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  02/09/18
I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, ac...
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we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the devel...
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  02/09/18
this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly stil...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the ac...
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  02/09/18
we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother...
Pontificating hospital
  02/09/18
dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in ...
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  02/09/18
Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking...
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$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still...
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  02/09/18
*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.
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Ask the father to chip in
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this would cost like $600 in Ukraine
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Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach....
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Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry the...
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  02/09/18
? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.
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I do not.
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  02/09/18
Why would you assume this?
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$100 flat? Must be an hmo? None of my docs take hmo.
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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Mentally Impaired National Security Agency

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360658)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:48 AM
Author: carmine den

Why is a Gynecologist involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361156)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: multi-colored aqua alpha sex offender

$40k

edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed insurance co. insurance co. obviously negotiated down by like 60% and you paid your deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360663)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: fragrant green french chef travel guidebook

Before reading on this is my best guess too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362995)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: zippy mad-dog skullcap windowlicker

$10k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360664)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: sable fluffy sandwich

$8,000?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360666)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

35k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360667)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Abode Clown

$668,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360670)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Provocative vermilion hominid school cafeteria

$5000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Deep Kitchen

70K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360674)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Mentally Impaired National Security Agency

Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds please defend?

breakout was $51k hospital, $2.5k anesthesia, $7k gyno. Thank Allah our out-of-pocket max is something like $2500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360680)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Arrogant lodge

If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of healthcare conglomerates you'll get no pushback from me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360690)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:47 AM
Author: Mint startled athletic conference stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361155)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: brass aphrodisiac step-uncle's house haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361175)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: violent range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362994)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: Bateful sepia round eye dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363104)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: Dull Sound Barrier Candlestick Maker

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365990)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt

you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360691)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:18 AM
Author: startling nofapping immigrant principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361183)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Soul-stirring tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362938)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Glittery Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363039)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: self-centered obsidian meetinghouse multi-billionaire

lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in the bucket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363073)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Domesticated parlour

...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363229)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

not really a partisan issue, hoss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360692)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: thriller tripping wrinkle center

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360708)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Deep Kitchen

JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360695)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360699)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they took our insurance on the phone, get to the place, they don't. i tell them we're gonna self pay. instead of 750, paid 225. was told any follow ups was the same deal.

the racket is set up to fuck people unless you're willing to pay up front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360710)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: thriller tripping wrinkle center

daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare, not insurers, drug companies, or politicians. just boomer doctors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360724)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex series of negotiations happens and in many cases doctors have NO CONTROL over the costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360734)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being about the same plus maybe 50 bucks to the doctor and my cash now was worth me not walking out and getting a no sale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360744)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow, but the idea that the doc is responsible for high drug costs is insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360746)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

also cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360750)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: thriller tripping wrinkle center

strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $2,500 for a community college graduate to push the "RUN" button on an MRI machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360759)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's only the doctor's fault if they're doing it wrong, too much, at the wrong time, etc

otherwise it's on the payer, they set the reimbursement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360773)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar band aid, the 40 dollar meal, etc., pays for things like bad debts/charity care/various cost centers that snake through every hospital like a leviathan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360780)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt

It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the government and the insurers defrauding everyone. From OPs thing, the MDs probably saw like 100 bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360731)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360741)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Abode Clown

We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on it. Let nurses and essential workers at pharmaceutical & medical equipment companies live, and kill everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360760)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: claret house nibblets

lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360889)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:23 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Abode Clown

? Doctors are fucking faggots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Abode Clown

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360735)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Trip Sienna Rehab

how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the billed amount is a total fiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360743)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360745)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: racy rough-skinned business firm ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360793)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: Histrionic crimson plaza

I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current state of healthcare/insurance?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362983)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Erotic faggot firefighter casino

So you paid $2500?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363050)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Abode Clown

Still an obscene amount of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363113)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: unholy anal foreskin

Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate healthcare. How can you blame only Republicans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363237)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: flickering laughsome son of senegal home

15k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Sick Ultramarine Library Nowag

$5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360677)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: cobalt bat shit crazy faggotry office

If we had single payer and a government that set prices you wouldn’t have this issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360702)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360718)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Domesticated parlour

"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped the Trumptard who has never step foot outside his country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363239)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Zombie-like maroon hissy fit corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Zombie-like maroon hissy fit corn cake

Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of every other first world country with no measurable improvement in healthcare outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363696)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: flickering laughsome son of senegal home

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360754)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Vengeful brunch newt

cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their checkbook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363066)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: fragrant green french chef travel guidebook

Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run something should be the absolute last resort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363084)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Dead mad cow disease indian lodge

having experienced what you blithering retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363201)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: fragrant green french chef travel guidebook

I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of millions of dollars worth of product purchased by the govt and received accolades, faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363312)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

OP makes no sense.

Hospital charges for the best possible delivery in the world could easily be 50K. But the point of insurance is that you only pay something like a fraction of the total cost, I guess 2.5K, to have world class doctors and nurses helping.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360727)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Deep Kitchen

*mother does all the work*

*nurses yell at her for 15 hours to push*

*doctor pops in briefly for 15 minutes to supervise*

*MUH world class doctors and nurses halping*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360752)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laughable

people from around the planet sent their kids to have babies in the USA and pay CASH because we have the best OBGYNs and hospitals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360757)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt

the idea the we need doctors for something women have done naturally for ever is laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360761)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

and died doing at unnecessary rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360777)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt

counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupted a strong eugenic force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360785)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: Deep Kitchen

primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not knowing about diseases, which people doing home births have addressed

you're probably more likely to contract a disease at a hospital than at home these days



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360850)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Erotic faggot firefighter casino

Cr. Just hang from a rope.

https://birthinternational.com/product/birth-support-rope/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363061)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Emerald frozen trailer park mood

That woman looks like she’s just fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35366223)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Vengeful brunch newt

yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363077)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: fragrant green french chef travel guidebook

Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases in life expectancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363095)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Deep Kitchen

plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home

people only had issues in the past due to lack of cleanliness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360764)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Internet-worthy Abode Clown

I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360765)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: Pearl Contagious Jap Water Buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360913)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: thriller tripping wrinkle center

we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the developed world. even cuba fucking pwns us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360770)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly

still better than 1750s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360781)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: thriller tripping wrinkle center

you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the actual points. is that why you're a doctor instead of a lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360786)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: Pontificating hospital

we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother less likely than it was in the past; it's ridiculous to argue it's as safe or less safe than 100 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360797)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Trip Sienna Rehab

dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in the us vs other countries with similar mortality rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363041)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Vivacious hairless institution mexican

Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking Slovenians pay $800, with 3x better outcomes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363265)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Trip Sienna Rehab

$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still bonkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363315)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: swashbuckling crystalline corner reading party

even cuba fucking pwns us>>>

i wouldnt be so quick to trust their self reported statistics. they do shit like venezuela where they had a huge drop in child death due to malnutrition by making it illegal for doctors to file that a child died of malnutrition, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360794)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Trip Sienna Rehab

*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360762)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: Chocolate gaping

Ask the father to chip in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360739)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Talented insane international law enforcement agency people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360747)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: Filthy Galvanic Bawdyhouse Karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360873)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: rusted twisted juggernaut philosopher-king

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362896)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: Hideous Wonderful Partner National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362918)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Vivacious hairless institution mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362933)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: grizzly fantasy-prone resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363200)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Aromatic milky property community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: brass aphrodisiac step-uncle's house haunted graveyard

this would cost like $600 in Ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361176)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Wild Razzle Stage Yarmulke

Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363047)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Domesticated parlour

Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363242)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Vivacious hairless institution mexican

? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363283)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: Wild Razzle Stage Yarmulke

I do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363426)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: brass aphrodisiac step-uncle's house haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365984)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: Wild Razzle Stage Yarmulke

Why would you assume this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363417)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Wild Razzle Stage Yarmulke

$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is going to cost that for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363034)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Judgmental wine elastic band gas station

LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back and lean against a tree to pop the kid out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363071)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: Vengeful brunch newt

u got ripped off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363088)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: chrome indirect expression sanctuary

Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k.

For a c section they charged my insurance $100k lol. What a joke.

I paid $4k (max out of pocket).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Vivacious hairless institution mexican

If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat, out the door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363289)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: chrome indirect expression sanctuary

$100 flat? Must be an hmo?

None of my docs take hmo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363326)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Vengeful brunch newt

I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinching shithole. lol at putting the lives of your family in their hands just to save a few thousand bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364691)