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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: floppy son of senegal ver
If they were serious about wanting to save some lives, any lives, they would offer compromises |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: talking elite hall What about the Republicans? Would they ever show as much interest for the victims of mass shootings as they show the victims of illegal immigrants? Is Trump calling the white supremacist mass shooter a son of a bitch, or is that only for black NFL players? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410398) |
Date: February 15th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: Mint Box Office After Sandy Hook Joe Manchin (very pro second amendment) led the effort to get very reasonable gun control legislation passed. It was merely tougher background checks and it got killed in the Senate. If it couldn't get done after Sandy Hook then it's not getting done anytime soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35408974) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: floppy son of senegal Exactly. He's not really a lib.
I'm not giving a pass to the GOP, but libs keep demanding measures they know will never fly. If they had really supported Manchin's measure, though, then who knows? |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Mint Box Office lol, they did support his measure. Every dem supported it. No GOP support so it died without the 60 votes it needed. The GOP has made clear that they will not allow any changes. They regard it as the proverbial "slippery slope." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409008) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: honey-headed boyish kitchen Would libs support actual solutions like stricter requirements for school security and funding for SROs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410051) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: fluffy locus newsflash: libs aren't the ones that like cutting public school funding
and as has been rehashed ad nauseam, there were two armed cops on duty yesterday. your average school is so large now that having 1-2 retired 300-lb deputies patrolling it won't stop anything
we need to stop having every problem in this country be answered with a blanket, non-specific "more security" |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: honey-headed boyish kitchen There were 5200 students in the school. There should have been way more SROs than two. And SROs don't come from school budgets. They come from law enforcement budgets. Conturds generally support adding more cops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410213) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: fluffy locus doesn't seem like that's the case.
Broward County, FL, where the shootings happened, pays the officers out of a fund run by the school board
for what it's worth (LOL) the school board is all middle aged shrews
http://browardschools.com/schoolboard |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Unhinged liquid oxygen area Lol at that school board. Not even a token chill retired male gym teacher to partway temper the passive-aggressive hen fighting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411276) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: violet deer antler home News flash, Democrats are the reason that we scaled back security in public schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410302) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Ebony Blathering Office People Who Are Hurt wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409044) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: Erotic Temple you seem low iq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409219) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: alcoholic crystalline brunch faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409055) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: Disturbing irate half-breed jap that's not compromise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411220) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: thriller stag film LJL There are literally no limitations on firearms that the modern GOP would be willing to compromise on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35408975) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Hairless Skinny Woman Lodge I'm anti-2nd amendment but there's no gun legislation short of confiscating guns from people without due process that would prevent incidents like this.
Being racist and/or wierd is not grounds to keep someone from buying a gun. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Gay Center Big gunmo here: I'm much more sympathetic to gun control arguments w/r/t to ordinary course gun violence. I disagree with much of it, but I can see the perspective.
Regarding mass casualty events, gun control is fucking retarded. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Hairless Skinny Woman Lodge I agree. That's why I tune out when incidents like this occur. I don't give a fuck about assault weapon bans or bans onf extended clips. I think laws that that actually hurt as all they do is antagonize gun owners who aren't going to commit crimes anyway.
I'm in favor of NYC style gun control that basically makes possessing a handgun impossible. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Lascivious cumskin brethren tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409073) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Mint Box Office Yep. GOP has gone with the "slippery slope" argument. They're not budging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35408998) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: Hairless Skinny Woman Lodge What legislation are you in favor of? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409004) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: vibrant gas station "slippery slope" arguments tend to be correct when dealing with libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409025) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Gay Center "We just want you out of our bedrooms!"
"We just want to levy a small income tax!"
"We'll just give this amnesty one time!"
"This Immigration law won't change the demographics of the country!" |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: vibrant gas station "the 2nd ammendment is safe. We just want increased background checks" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409076) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: fluffy locus most of these sound like recent Trump proposals. that 25-cent federal gas tax he burped out yesterday would've been front page news any other day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409090) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Gay Center I don't agree with everything Trump does. In particular, I'm highly against his position on entitlements for senior citizens (i.e. Medicare). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409106) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: appetizing low-t shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409046) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:55 PM Author: marvelous cobalt locale roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411485) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth Why so much focus on mass shootings with people being killed everyday in inner cities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409000) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Hairless Skinny Woman Lodge This is actually a valid point but not one *you* should be able to make with a straight face. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409010) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409021) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth Just an irrational outburst? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409061) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Ebony Blathering Office People Who Are Hurt another good reason for massive gun law reform, but people dont care about urban deaths. children they do care about, so its the best move gun control people have politically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409020) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth Shouldn’t they want to do something that’s actually effective? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409027) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Ebony Blathering Office People Who Are Hurt i think they do, and have tried, but it doesnt get any traction because people dont care about urban deaths generally. look at xo for example, they just write it off to apes killing apes. nevermind that in no other developed countries with gun control does this shit happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409039) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Gay Center Well, but look at it from the perspective of law-abiding whites.
The homicide rate among white americans is pretty close to most European countries, and that's including the fact that (i) we have tons of guns here and (ii) some of that white homicide rate is surely attributable to living near violent minorities. Same re Asian homicide rate.
The Hispanic homicide rate is high, but not insane.
The black homicide rate is insane.
So why would whites want to give up a fundamental right, one that comes with only a modest uptick in the homicide rate, because blacks commit overwhelming amounts of violence?
It's not an easy question to answer. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Ebony Blathering Office People Who Are Hurt well, maybe if you live in a place where you only interact with other whites i can see your point, but if youre in an urban area, youre gonna deal with everyone. countries with strict gun control see the homicide rate drop across the board, including amongst blacks, so it stands to reason that could be replicated in america. whether that is reason enough to forego the 'right' to own a handgun or whatever i suppose is a personal decision. gun control at the city level will never work so long as there is free movement of goods between the city and areas with less control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409123) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: Gay Center there are a lot of whites that don't live in major urban areas, and they in particular are much more likely to be gun owners.
but even in urban areas, the homicide rate is still tied to demographics. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: hot private investor Obvious solution is blacks stop killing each other and start valuing their own lives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409124) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Passionate whorehouse organic girlfriend The media doesn't report on inner city not violence because it would remind people of typical nigger behavior (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409042) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409082) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: vibrant gas station mass shootings affect anyone who ever goes to a school, church, office, or any other place where a lot of people congregate.
the only people who have to deal with inner city violence are ppl who live there. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth Never been affected by a mass shooting personally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409075) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: vibrant gas station indirectly it almost definitely has. if you ever have kids it 100% will. The Parkland school had just done a mass shooter drill a few weeks ago I think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409089) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: fluffy locus the shooter attended that drill or a similar one last year, so he would know the weak points (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409094) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: vibrant gas station yea, that's probably something they should take into account as well when planning these drills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409103) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409101) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: honey-headed boyish kitchen Why don't we pass a law requiring everyone to be a shut in autist xo poaster? That would keep everyone safe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410095) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Buff federal wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409033) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: Hairless Skinny Woman Lodge The screeching about concealed carry reciprocity laws is the best example of this. There's absolutely no reason to care about this unless your goal is just hurting gun owners. No one intending to commit a crime is going to observe those laws anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409071) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: fighting scourge upon the earth Care to address the black violence that is driving the murder rate or no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409113) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: fluffy locus so it sounds like you're prepared to admit that all hope is lost and we will just have to accept, into perpetuity, tens of thousands of deaths and injuries to innocents. can you go ahead and do that?
we had one guy try to take a shoe bomb onto a plane and to this day we all have to take our fucking shoes off and show our dicks to retard TSAers at the airport.
we've had fewer muslim truck attacks ever than we've had school shootings in 2018, and tons of buildings and public spaces have concrete impediments now.
the ONLY explanation for why something else hasn't happened is the willful negligence of gun owners (police your own) and the billions of dollars the NRA funnels into our political system. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: purple mewling pistol corner To be fair, the concrete impediments in front of buildings are mostly to prevent car bombs, not truck attacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409409) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Plum Judgmental Corn Cake did you read his poa? what are you talking about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411231) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Disturbing irate half-breed jap absolutely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411223) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: fluffy locus one of the first things Trump did when he was in office was roll back limits on gun purchases by the mentally ill. seems like an admission that was a mistake and permanent codification by Congress would be a good start.
any private sale requiring a full background check would be nice.
banning ARs is dumb, but any purchase should require extra training and certification and all ammo purchases should be logged. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: alcoholic crystalline brunch faggot firefighter you clearly hate freedum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409108) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: fluffy locus any responsible gun owner should have absolutely no problem with those proposals.
if you're opposed, why? got a little mental illness you're worried about getting dinged for? smacked around the wife a time or two?
reptards are still spewing the "It was a gun-free zone!!!!1!!" horseshit. there were multiple armed security officers on campus. the school conducted regular mass shooter drills.
all the alternatives have been considered, unless you all are seriously advocating with a straight face that all 13-17 year olds should be armed when they go to school, along with tiny 24-year old and 74-year old teachers.
i would rather restrict crazy autists than restrict guns, but that isn't feasible. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: violet deer antler home Or we can go back to what we had before that worked where high-risk schools had Metal detectors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410362) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:02 PM Author: stubborn jew crackhouse Define what "mental illness" should preclude someone from buying a gun, and who would make that decision. We all know that Libs would abuse something like this horribly.
I would not necessarily oppose additional training/safety certifications on higher capacity weapons. But again, it would need to be legitimate and not a backdoor to fuck people over (which we all know libs want to do).
Logging ammo purchases is ridiculous and part of Libs' fantasy world that someone that buys more than 20 rounds is an evil anti-goverment extremist preparing for civil war. A normal range day (to practice and remain proficient in the safe handling of firearms) can easily expend hundreds of rounds of ammo. If you routinely practice, buying in bulk is the only way to go because it significantly lowers price per round. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Gay Center i'm not at all opposed to safety training and certifications, nor am i opposed to denying mentally ill the right to purchase or carry firearms, but the devil's in the details on those two proposals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409176) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: hot private investor How is safety training going to prevent murder? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409179) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: Gay Center it doesn't, but it helps with accidental deaths and the like.
ask most gun owners and they'll tell you that safety is paramount. |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy principal's office french chef half the reason I don't own any (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411278) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: laughsome gunner https://www.snopes.com/congress-gun-legal-mental/
Technically speaking, however, it was (and remains to this day) already illegal to sell guns to anyone “who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution” per Title 18 section 922(g) of the United States Code. “Adjudicated as mental defective”, the Obama administration argued, is further clarified in an Alcohol, Tobacco Products and Firearms regulation (Title 27 U.S.C. section 478.11) to be: |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: fluffy locus yea man, it should take no time at all to get a formal court adjudication that someone is a "mental defective" and "poses a violent threat"
or maybe we could just take incremental steps
i also saw you call me a liar, maybe you should calm down a little bit |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: laughsome gunner Explain how any steps you listed would have stopped this guy
Was he categorized as mentally ill? Did he not pass a background check? Would logged ammo purchases have stopped the attack?
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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: fluffy locus this guy has a documented history of school expulsion, mental health treatment, violence, etc. he literally said "HI GUYZ IM A SCHOOL SHOOTER" and people reported him to the FBI. there COULDN'T BE any more red flags, yet he was still able to waltz in as a fucking teenager and buy an AR-15 and thousands of rounds of ammo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35409342) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: honey-headed boyish kitchen Then he should have been involuntarily committed. There is already a process for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410146) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: fluffy locus look at the flowchart on this fucking link for the Florida state involuntary commitment law and tell me more about how well you think this "process" works
http://www.cchrflorida.org/question-and-answers-about-the-florida-involuntary-commitment-law-the-baker-act/ |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: honey-headed boyish kitchen It's called due process, lib. Hire more prosecutors to take care of the paperwork. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410235) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: fluffy locus all of your solutions involve more state and municipal level funding.
i wonder why that's a problem? |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: violet deer antler home It's easy as fuck to involuntarily commit someone in Florida. Source: live in Florida and people get committed involuntarily constantly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35410401) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: lilac slippery foreskin How about we create a national database of people prescribed SSRI and antianxiety drugs and make them ineligible to purchase firearms?
Agree with private sale but only if I get access to NICS through a phone app and follow the same rules (i.e. no return within 3 days is automatically a proceed with sale) and it doesn't involve serial numbers or any information about the firearm(s) being transferred.
Completely disagree with your last points, certification for weapons is fucking retarded. Mass shootings aren't caused by unsafe handling practices, never understood why libs want to make safety courses mandatory except to later make them impossible to pass (like 60's "literacy tests" to register black voters) |
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Date: February 15th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Cerebral senate macaca American rates of gun ownership corresponds with more gun murders even when you control for: mental health treatment, crime rates, race and other socioeconomic factors. America simply has a violence problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893868&forum_id=2#35411212) |