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Blade Runner 2049 is really fucking good

Obviously proles want black panther and other dogshit but th...
frozen stirring incel
  02/16/18
Should I download this and watch it tonight instead of poast...
histrionic coldplay fan goyim
  02/16/18
Brother I abhor movies Watching it right now on a flight...
frozen stirring incel
  02/16/18
Brother, I'm going to watch it in 4K HDR on my 65 inch OLED ...
amber locale circlehead
  02/17/18
Nice man, 4K is great I’m watching on a turd airline scr...
frozen stirring incel
  02/17/18
Yes
bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  02/16/18
But some of those pretty shots linger for a bit too long.
Onyx flatulent death wish
  02/16/18
favorite movie of the year
bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  02/16/18
So far it seems to take the crown Gosling has autisitic c...
frozen stirring incel
  02/17/18
cr
bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  02/17/18
I was actually just about to watch it. Bought the 4K blu ray...
amber locale circlehead
  02/17/18
i dont think its necessary to watch the first as long as you...
bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  02/17/18
Just read the Wikipedia on the first one.
awkward exhilarant voyeur
  02/17/18
I’ve never seen first and it’s in my top 2 for the year only...
frozen stirring incel
  02/17/18
I havent seen the first either and im afraid i wont pick up ...
Pearl boistinker puppy
  02/17/18
They Star Wars pre-plot the movie with like 4 paragraphs in ...
frozen stirring incel
  02/17/18
The plot of the first is not that complex in terms of charac...
amber locale circlehead
  02/17/18
It was visually very interesting and had a lot of really coo...
awkward exhilarant voyeur
  02/17/18
Cr, it’s just really fucking good as per my op
frozen stirring incel
  02/17/18
Saw this recently. Was pleasantly surprised at just how goo...
electric spruce lodge black woman
  02/17/18
Where can i watch btw?
bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  02/17/18
I enjoyed. I wonder how many more good movies we'd have if c...
flirting zombie-like church genital piercing
  02/17/18
Good Time is a great movie
Brilliant Space
  02/17/18
Will watch. I saw a few others. They guy that did hell or hi...
flirting zombie-like church genital piercing
  02/17/18
loved the first blade runner. love denis villineuve. fucking...
Brilliant Space
  02/17/18
It’s 180 Really surprised how good it was, didn’t see it ...
frozen stirring incel
  02/17/18
It’s a great movie in its own right and as a sequel.
sapphire antidepressant drug
  02/17/18
streaming anywhere?
Mind-boggling Fuchsia Chapel Regret
  02/17/18
DAT JOI UNGH
know-it-all big volcanic crater old irish cottage
  02/17/18
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Drab principal's office elastic band
  02/17/18
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frozen stirring incel
  03/20/18
Cr but one flaw is the 'resistance' scene toward the end, I ...
Painfully honest base
  02/17/18
its super bleak. very dark movie.
floppy rehab
  02/17/18
it should have been edited better. and its one of those movi...
Transparent Piazza Halford
  02/17/18
would it be a much better movie on a 100" screen than a...
Brilliant Space
  02/17/18
...
frozen stirring incel
  02/20/18
Just saw it this weekend. Smart, entertaining movie. It had ...
blathering indian lodge
  03/26/18
Watched it Saturday for the first time. Definitely preferred...
sable deer antler chad
  03/26/18
Cr
frozen stirring incel
  03/26/18
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Fluffy Arousing Sanctuary Cuckoldry
  03/26/18
I really connected with this movie, made me depressed for a ...
Glittery Dilemma
  03/26/18
THE MEANING OF LIFE IN 'BLADE RUNNER 2049' A philosopher ...
bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  03/26/18


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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: frozen stirring incel

Obviously proles want black panther and other dogshit but this was outstanding and I’ve never even seen original

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422379)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:49 PM
Author: histrionic coldplay fan goyim

Should I download this and watch it tonight instead of poasting? I assume it's not a background type movie. I've never seen the original

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422386)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: frozen stirring incel

Brother I abhor movies

Watching it right now on a flight, I’ll really enjoying about 3/4 through

It really captures how self-imposed fucked we are as a species better than anything else I’ve seen

Feels like a non-comedy Idiocracy meet Minority Report

I would 100% download it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422409)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: amber locale circlehead

Brother, I'm going to watch it in 4K HDR on my 65 inch OLED tonight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422555)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: frozen stirring incel

Nice man, 4K is great

I’m watching on a turd airline screen, the sweeping shots will be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422557)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422431)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Onyx flatulent death wish

But some of those pretty shots linger for a bit too long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422401)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

favorite movie of the year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422429)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: frozen stirring incel

So far it seems to take the crown

Gosling has autisitic characters down pat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422457)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:32 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422588)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: amber locale circlehead

I was actually just about to watch it. Bought the 4K blu ray as a potential showcase for my 4K player.

Should I rewatch the first if I haven't seen it in 5+ years or is it not going to affect my enjoyment much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422531)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

i dont think its necessary to watch the first as long as you remember the plot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422538)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: awkward exhilarant voyeur

Just read the Wikipedia on the first one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422542)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: frozen stirring incel

I’ve never seen first and it’s in my top 2 for the year only 3/4 in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422550)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Pearl boistinker puppy

I havent seen the first either and im afraid i wont pick up the story in 2049 as easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422559)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: frozen stirring incel

They Star Wars pre-plot the movie with like 4 paragraphs in beginning

Doesn’t seem like you need to see first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422563)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: amber locale circlehead

The plot of the first is not that complex in terms of characters and events. it's more slow paced and philosophical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422569)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: awkward exhilarant voyeur

It was visually very interesting and had a lot of really cool elements. But its too long and meandering to be truly great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422573)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: frozen stirring incel

Cr, it’s just really fucking good as per my op

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422578)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:50 AM
Author: electric spruce lodge black woman

Saw this recently. Was pleasantly surprised at just how good it was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422662)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

Where can i watch btw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422663)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: flirting zombie-like church genital piercing

I enjoyed. I wonder how many more good movies we'd have if certain types would avoid using the platform to push an agenda.

I liked Ladybird too.

That's about it for this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422674)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: Brilliant Space

Good Time is a great movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422730)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: flirting zombie-like church genital piercing

Will watch. I saw a few others. They guy that did hell or highwater seems to put out good stuff too. I liked his latest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35425950)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: Brilliant Space

loved the first blade runner. love denis villineuve. fucking love Ryan Gosling. might consider watching this tonight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422728)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: frozen stirring incel

It’s 180

Really surprised how good it was, didn’t see it coming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35425931)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 1:16 AM
Author: sapphire antidepressant drug

It’s a great movie in its own right and as a sequel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35422733)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Fuchsia Chapel Regret

streaming anywhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35425938)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: know-it-all big volcanic crater old irish cottage

DAT JOI UNGH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35425941)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Drab principal's office elastic band



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Date: March 20th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: frozen stirring incel



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Painfully honest base

Cr but one flaw is the 'resistance' scene toward the end, I thought that was forced and poorly acted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35425945)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: floppy rehab

its super bleak. very dark movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35426007)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Transparent Piazza Halford

it should have been edited better. and its one of those movies that looks much better in a theater

I watched it 3 times:

1) regular movie screen - wow

2) true IMAX (irvine spectrum) - great, one of the best movies ever

3) watching it at home after buying bluray - ummm should have been edited better, drags in the second half, some of the scenes towards the end are TTT. overall still a very good movie and one of the best movies of 2017. but not as good as i thought it was when i watched it in IMAX

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35426036)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Brilliant Space

would it be a much better movie on a 100" screen than a 55" screen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35426845)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: frozen stirring incel



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Date: March 26th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: blathering indian lodge

Just saw it this weekend. Smart, entertaining movie. It had a deliberate pace but I didn't think that it was "slow." Really didn't seem like 3 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35693030)



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Date: March 26th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: sable deer antler chad

Watched it Saturday for the first time. Definitely preferred it to Shape of Water and Three Billboards, the big "O$car" movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35693065)



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Date: March 26th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: frozen stirring incel

Cr

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Date: March 26th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Fluffy Arousing Sanctuary Cuckoldry



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Date: March 26th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Glittery Dilemma

I really connected with this movie, made me depressed for a few days and usually movies just wash over me and have no impact one way or the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895572&forum_id=2#35693615)



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Date: March 26th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

THE MEANING OF LIFE IN 'BLADE RUNNER 2049'

A philosopher expounds on the film's deep questions about knowledge and genetically engineered life, and offers some clues as to its ambiguous ending.

For an '80s flick starring Harrison Ford and gigantic shoulder pads, Blade Runner has a serious philosophical streak. Director Ridley Scott's sci-fi classic is set in 2019, in Los Angeles, a city that's been devastated by pollution, industrialization, and overpopulation. The film tracks Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford), a detective whose career is devoted to capturing "replicants"—synthetic human servants now feared after a violent, off-world rebellion. Through its oft-poetic replicants, the film asks questions of what if means to be human, and to what extent a synthetic humanoid can have a real personality.

Many had hoped Blade Runner 2049, the film's sequel out in theaters now, might answer some of the many remaining questions left by the original. But director Denis Villeneuve clearly had other intentions. Blade Runner 2049, true to the radical spirit of its predecessor, instead poses new questions to viewers about the nature of humanity, this time with a biological spin. The latest film follows K (Ryan Gosling), a member of a new and more obedient generation of replicant, and himself a blade runner tasked with hunting down older, more rebellious replicants. When K finds the bones of a pregnant replicant on the land of a replicant he's "retired"—blade runner-speak for killed—his boss orders him to erase all traces that replicants can produce—even the dead woman's replicant child—fearing that the information could lead to a human-replicant war. As he embarks on his investigation, K comes to question the reality of his memories, and even his identity as a replicant.

To learn more about the philosophical questions posed by Blade Runner 2049—as well as potential answers—we turned to Timothy Shanahan, a philosophy professor at Loyola Marymount University and the author of Philosophy and Blade Runner. Shanahan's original book teased out the original film's philosophy, and contrasted the film's ideas with those of Sartre, Descartes, and other canon philosophers. Speaking to Pacific Standard, he discussed the film's atypical narrative arc, the humanity of a hologram, and what was up with Jared Leto's eyes. Be warned: There are many spoilers ahead.

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What are some of the philosophical lessons that you argued the first film conveyed in Philosophy and Blade Runner?

Arguably the key philosophical issue in the [original] film is the question "What does it mean to be human?" The film conveys the idea that simple diagnostic criteria for deciding who or what is or is not human are bound to fail and that what it means to be human isn't so much an objective fact that's out there in the world waiting for us to discover, but rather it has more to do with our attitudes toward one another. Being human is more like a social construct than it is an objective fact. Now, that doesn't mean that objective facts in the world aren't relevant—they're very relevant and they're probably necessary—they're just not sufficient.

There are other, secondary issues. The replicants make their way back to Earth on a quest, led by [rogue replicant leader] Roy Batty, to talk to [replicant manufacturer] Mr. Tyrell, [Roy] wants more life. He seems to think that, if he gets more life, by which he means more years [because replicants have only a four-year lifespan], his problems will be solved. I try to argue in the book that it's not obvious that, even if Roy got what he wanted, his problems would be solved, because then he would have an equally serious problem: What would I do with the time that I've been granted? Even Tyrell, who's not a sympathetic figure in the film, he tries to convey this to Roy by saying, "The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long." I think that's Tyrell telling Roy Batty, it isn't the length of your life that matters, it's the quality of your life that matters and how intensely you live it, that's what matters. So I think that's one of the implicit arguments that the film is making.

Timothy Shanahan.

Timothy Shanahan.

(Photo: Loyola Marymount University)

Does the philosophy of Blade Runner change or expand in any major ways that you noticed in this new movie?

One thing that is very striking to me in the new film is that the world that's been constructed in Blade Runner 2049 is very much a continuation of the world from the original Blade Runner movie; it's a believable three-decades-on world, and it's basically the same world and atmosphere.

I would identify maybe five or six philosophical issues that are pretty clear in the new film. We again get the question, "What does it mean to be human?" Secondly, "What is real?" The Deckard character in the new movie says to [the replicant-manufacturer chief executive officer character, played by Jared Leto,] Niander Wallace, "I know what's real," but he says it in such a way, there's a context in which [I thought], "I think what he means is, 'I hope I know what's real.'" Related to that is, "What can I know?" Various characters in the film are trying to find out things, and it's not clear to them or to us that they can know what they want to know because of contingent factors or because the information is just not available.

The fourth question is: "What grounds a person's identity?" K, Ryan Gosling's character, starts off believing he's a replicant; at some point in the film he becomes convinced that he's not really a replicant, that he's special. But then by the end of the film, he's sort of back to where he began: He knows he's a replicant, and he even knows he's a pretty ordinary replicant. So his sense of identity, at least, has been subverted a couple of times, and [so is the] audience's perception because of course we're manipulated into thinking, "Oh, he's special, oh, he's not."

Related to [that question] is, "Can I trust my memories?" The K character has to deal with this, he has memories of that wooden horse. Dr. Ana Stelline [a subcontractor who manufactures memories to be implanted in replicants] tells him at one point that these memories that she's looking at are real memories. It turns out [later] they're real memories, they're just not his real memories.

The last one is the question of the meaning of life—more particularly, "How can we make our lives meaningful through our choices?" K is leading a fairly grinding life, you see the weariness in his eyes and the weariness on his face when he's "retiring" that [first] replicant—the same kind of weariness that Deckard exhibited in the original film. They're going about their jobs and it's a nasty business, but it's what they have to do. But, throughout the film, he makes choices that seem to go against what he was designed to do and what he's designed to be. By the end of the film, when he's laying on his back on the steps and the snow's falling on his body, I think the audience is supposed to get the sense that he's at peace, that he feels he's made the right choices, and that he has accomplished something with his life. Now, what's striking to me is that a lot of big issues are unresolved at that point, and yet he's achieved a kind of meaning in his life by helping a father unite with his daughter. It seems like a small thing in the grand scheme of things, but that's the kind of action that can make his life meaningful.

Let's dig deeper into your first question, "What does it mean to be human?" This time we get this question through the perspective of a character who is explicitly a replicant. How does that change the film's philosophy of what it means to be human?

I think in the first film, you've got humans who think that the presence or absence of empathy is a defining or diagnostic feature of what it means to be human, and that's why they use that Voight-Kampff test [to measure empathy]. I don't know whether that diagnostic criterion of what it means to be human is ever undermined in the first film—rather, it [shows] that humans can lack empathy and replicants can have it. It's not that the test is wrong or anything; it's just that empathy itself is absent in some humans and present in some replicants.

In the new film, it's almost as if they're taking a biological perspective on what it means to be human and what it means to be a replicant. And what I mean by "taking a biological perspective" is the issue of procreation, which didn't play any role in the old film, starts to loom large in the sequel. So is the daughter, Dr. Ana Stelline, what she is, turns out to be very important for various individuals in the film. In the new film [the VK Test] seem to be there. K does use another retinal scanning device to scan the eyeball of the protein farmer, but it's not really about that. It seems like it's more a matter of biology, it's a matter of how you came into being. So at various points in the film, the idea that somebody is born rather than made seems to carry a lot of weight.

At the same time, humans seem to be inhabiting a more cyborg world: Wallace has an implant to help him see because he seems to be blind, and the advertisements for the hologram companion Joi are all over the city. Are humans themselves becoming more replicant-like in this film?

I'm really glad you asked this question because this is something else I've been thinking about after watching this film: There are some new philosophical issues in this film that aren't present in the original film. We think of a cyborg as an organic-machine synthesis. I don't think we get any [cyborgs] in the original film: Arguably Niander Wallace is something like that in the sequel. But if he's a cyborg, he doesn't look like a very impressive example of being a cyborg because I'm not sure his eyes are electronic.

So to me the far more interesting issue is Joi, the holographic girlfriend for K. The fact that she progressively seems to have a certain degree of autonomy, that's interesting because now we have the issue of artificial intelligence. I assume—because the film doesn't explain it—that there's an AI system that lies behind the holographic Joi. There are suggestions in the film that whatever she does is programmed. Here are some examples: She decides to call K by the name "Joe," and that doesn't seem random, because another Joi later in the film also addresses K as "Joe," as if that's just the name that this AI system was programmed to give to male potential customers. Likewise, the viewer is treated over and over again to those electronic billboards that said something like "Everything You Want," and you noticed that Joi tends to tell K what he wants to hear. She's catering to his needs but also telling him things like "You're special," which is exactly what he hoped is the case when she's telling him that. But later, when she's giving K directions to destroy the little unit that controls her [in K's home] and that includes her memory and he's reluctant to do it because he knows that destroying her memory is essentially destroying her, he's treating her like she's more than just a programmed AI. Her active self-sacrifice looks like it could be more than a programmed response.

This is the classic philosophical issue concerning AI: Could an AI system ever be conscious? Could an AI system ever have genuine emotions? Could an AI system ever have free will? These are great questions and all we have to go on is the behavior—the output—but what we can never do is get inside and know what it's like to be an AI system. So that's a real philosophical puzzle. In discussing films with students and other people a persistent understanding of the original film is that the replicants are AI. But they're not, they're biological, they're organic—they bleed; there's no electronics in the replicants, they're not AI, they're synthetic humans.

Let's talk about one of the other philosophical questions you had, which is "What can I know?" As a viewer follow K on his journey in this movie, he has an atypical Hollywood arc: What we believe to be our hero turns out to be a very ordinary replicant. Why do you think that the filmmakers included that in the film?

I would say the best philosophical films—whether they're intending to be philosophical or not—are ones that induces a philosophical state in the viewer that at least some of the characters in the film are struggling with. K is struggling to figure out not just who he is, but what he is—am I a replicant or maybe a hybrid of a human and a replicant? Am I the first born, the only born of a replicant? Or was I produced like every other replicant? He doesn't know, and neither do we, for much of the film.

What do you make of this new film's philosophy of death, especially since in the final scene K seems to accept his impending death?

One angle on death in the film would be, if there's one moment in the new film where it feels a little heavy-handed, where it feels a little bit like the director is telling rather than showing, it's when the leader of the replicants, Freysa, says to K something like, "Fighting for a cause greater than yourself is the most human thing you can do." That's very significant because it's as if K internalizes that message and then his cause is to save Deckard and unite Deckard with his daughter. When he's done that, he's lying on his back on the steps leading up to the memory-maker building and snowflakes are falling on his face. Now, there's a question: Is he dying at that point? Well, it looks like it, and there's clues in the film to suggests that he is. When Roy Batty dies in the original film, there's rain falling on his face. When K dies, there's snow falling on his face—it's water in both cases. Second, the music playing when K is on the steps is the same music that was playing when Roy Batty drops his head and dies in the original film. In fact, that song, by Vangelis, is called "Time to Die." And you put that with that statement about fighting for a cause being the most human thing you can do, it looks like K has achieved the kind of status, let's say, equal to a human. Biologically he's still not a human, but it's like, who cares? It doesn't matter; he's done something human.

What are the most important philosophical questions you'd ask audiences to ponder after this film?

I wouldn't want audiences to walk out of the film and ask, "How is this film a commentary on the times we live in?" Because that seems to me just a little too trite, as if the filmmaker is trying to comment on whatever happens to be happening at the moment in the world. That seems like not a very fruitful way to think about the film. A second thing that I would hope audiences wouldn't leave the theater thinking about is just the special effects—the holograms, the CGI, how entertaining it was or wasn't. What I would hope is that people would walk out and think to themselves, "This film entertained me but also challenged me." And: "What questions does this film raise in my mind? What does it means to be human? Who am I? What do I know?" I would hope audiences might realize that a film like this can be the catalyst or the prompt for self-examination. If you compare this film to most other films, it's just way more thought-provoking and way deeper, and a way better catalyst for self-examination than the vast majority of films that are produced.

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