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poetry seems like a lost art

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outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range
  02/17/18
i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. ...
Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life
  02/17/18
especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.
outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range
  02/17/18
yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. ...
Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life
  02/17/18
I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as f...
outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range
  02/17/18
exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t...
medicated rigpig
  02/17/18
there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a &...
Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life
  02/17/18
The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the so...
Rambunctious lime home multi-billionaire
  02/17/18
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Godawful Party Of The First Part
  09/21/18
Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"
concupiscible silver piazza
  02/17/18
rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry
outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range
  02/17/18
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Jet corner blood rage
  02/17/18
real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart peopl...
wine effete field queen of the night
  02/17/18
120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd
outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range
  02/17/18
actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't...
Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life
  02/17/18
Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers a...
Soul-stirring deep yarmulke indian lodge
  02/17/18
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Bespoke Cobalt Hall
  02/18/18
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Rambunctious lime home multi-billionaire
  02/18/18
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wine effete field queen of the night
  02/17/18
art is a lost art
Bespoke Cobalt Hall
  02/17/18
nigger: a poem
spruce kink-friendly voyeur regret
  02/18/18
eloquent
outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range
  02/18/18
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Godawful Party Of The First Part
  09/21/18
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- ...
talented flesh spot coldplay fan
  09/21/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life

i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range

especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life

yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range

I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: medicated rigpig

exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life

there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:

"And hence no force, however great,

Can draw a cord, however fine,

Into a horizontal line

Which shall be absolutely straight."

that's the same meter as:

"I hold it true, whate'er befall;

I feel it when I sorrow most;

'Tis better to have loved and lost

Than never to have loved at all."

but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Rambunctious lime home multi-billionaire

The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why.

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Godawful Party Of The First Part



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: concupiscible silver piazza

Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range

rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Jet corner blood rage



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: wine effete field queen of the night

real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range

120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Trip Olive Institution Love Of Her Life

actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Soul-stirring deep yarmulke indian lodge

Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Bespoke Cobalt Hall



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Rambunctious lime home multi-billionaire



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: wine effete field queen of the night



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Bespoke Cobalt Hall

art is a lost art

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: spruce kink-friendly voyeur regret
Subject: nigger: a poem

nigger.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: outnumbered demanding scourge upon the earth range

eloquent

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Godawful Party Of The First Part



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: talented flesh spot coldplay fan

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --

That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,

And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

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