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poetry seems like a lost art

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Gaped stock car
  02/17/18
i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. ...
Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot
  02/17/18
especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.
Gaped stock car
  02/17/18
yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. ...
Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot
  02/17/18
I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as f...
Gaped stock car
  02/17/18
exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t...
vigorous french mad-dog skullcap famous landscape painting
  02/17/18
there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a &...
Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot
  02/17/18
The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the so...
shaky house potus
  02/17/18
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swashbuckling vermilion institution boiling water
  09/21/18
Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"
vivacious dark business firm alpha
  02/17/18
rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry
Gaped stock car
  02/17/18
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ruddy doobsian sex offender
  02/17/18
real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart peopl...
Adventurous stage faggotry
  02/17/18
120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd
Gaped stock car
  02/17/18
actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't...
Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot
  02/17/18
Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers a...
Milky fluffy field genital piercing
  02/17/18
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Jet exciting national
  02/18/18
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shaky house potus
  02/18/18
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Adventurous stage faggotry
  02/17/18
art is a lost art
Jet exciting national
  02/17/18
nigger: a poem
bright sneaky criminal
  02/18/18
eloquent
Gaped stock car
  02/18/18
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swashbuckling vermilion institution boiling water
  09/21/18
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- ...
pink electric water buffalo
  09/21/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Gaped stock car



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot

i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: Gaped stock car

especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot

yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Gaped stock car

I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: vigorous french mad-dog skullcap famous landscape painting

exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot

there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:

"And hence no force, however great,

Can draw a cord, however fine,

Into a horizontal line

Which shall be absolutely straight."

that's the same meter as:

"I hold it true, whate'er befall;

I feel it when I sorrow most;

'Tis better to have loved and lost

Than never to have loved at all."

but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426823)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: shaky house potus

The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why.

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: swashbuckling vermilion institution boiling water



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: vivacious dark business firm alpha

Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Gaped stock car

rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: ruddy doobsian sex offender



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Adventurous stage faggotry

real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: Gaped stock car

120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted razzmatazz spot

actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Milky fluffy field genital piercing

Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Jet exciting national



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: shaky house potus



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: Adventurous stage faggotry



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Jet exciting national

art is a lost art

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: bright sneaky criminal
Subject: nigger: a poem

nigger.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Gaped stock car

eloquent

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: swashbuckling vermilion institution boiling water



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: pink electric water buffalo

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --

That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,

And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

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