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poetry seems like a lost art
| Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth | 02/17/18 |
| Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier | 02/17/18 |
| Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth | 02/17/18 |
| Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier | 02/17/18 |
| Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth | 02/17/18 |
| mischievous property kitty | 02/17/18 |
| Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier | 02/17/18 |
| Big ticket booth people who are hurt | 02/17/18 |
| Razzle-dazzle splenetic nowag | 09/21/18 |
| know-it-all cruel-hearted half-breed gas station | 02/17/18 |
| Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth | 02/17/18 |
| charismatic address prole | 02/17/18 |
| trip halford | 02/17/18 |
| Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth | 02/17/18 |
| Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier | 02/17/18 |
| sable orchestra pit | 02/17/18 |
| Canary Locale Water Buffalo | 02/18/18 |
| Big ticket booth people who are hurt | 02/18/18 |
| trip halford | 02/17/18 |
| Canary Locale Water Buffalo | 02/17/18 |
| Lemon hell telephone | 02/18/18 |
| Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth | 02/18/18 |
| Razzle-dazzle splenetic nowag | 09/21/18 |
| carmine circlehead | 09/21/18 |
Poast new message in this thread
Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM Author: Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426685) |
Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM Author: Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426698) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM Author: Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth especially "slam poetry". jesus christ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426700) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM Author: Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426757) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: mischievous property kitty exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426772) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:
"And hence no force, however great,
Can draw a cord, however fine,
Into a horizontal line
Which shall be absolutely straight."
that's the same meter as:
"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all."
but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative. |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM Author: Big ticket booth people who are hurt The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426847) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle splenetic nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#36859307) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: know-it-all cruel-hearted half-breed gas station Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426702) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM Author: Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426712) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM Author: charismatic address prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426774) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM Author: trip halford real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426838) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM Author: Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth 120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426926) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: Offensive Painfully Honest Temple Sound Barrier actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426960) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: sable orchestra pit Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35427144) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: Canary Locale Water Buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432816) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: Big ticket booth people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432795) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: trip halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35427183) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM Author: Canary Locale Water Buffalo art is a lost art (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426841) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM Author: Lemon hell telephone Subject: nigger: a poem nigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432827) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: Self-absorbed national scourge upon the earth eloquent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432837) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle splenetic nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#36859309) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM Author: carmine circlehead As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- There are only four things certain since Social Progress began -- That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire -- And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! |