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poetry seems like a lost art
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM Author: saffron chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426685) |
Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM Author: chest-beating market i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426698) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM Author: saffron chapel especially "slam poetry". jesus christ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426700) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: chest-beating market yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM Author: saffron chapel I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426757) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: cocky station exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426772) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: chest-beating market there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:
"And hence no force, however great,
Can draw a cord, however fine,
Into a horizontal line
Which shall be absolutely straight."
that's the same meter as:
"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all."
but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative. |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM Author: aphrodisiac volcanic crater institution The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426847) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM Author: Smoky Stage Fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#36859307) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: 180 haunting pit Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426702) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM Author: saffron chapel rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426712) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM Author: Deep Canary Patrolman Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426774) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM Author: Bat shit crazy racy principal's office nibblets real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426838) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM Author: saffron chapel 120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426926) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: chest-beating market actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426960) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: lascivious balding lay people who are hurt Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35427144) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: Cracking Mentally Impaired Cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432816) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac volcanic crater institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432795) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: Bat shit crazy racy principal's office nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35427183) |
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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM Author: Cracking Mentally Impaired Cuck art is a lost art (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35426841) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM Author: Titillating gaming laptop quadroon Subject: nigger: a poem nigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432827) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM Author: saffron chapel eloquent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#35432837) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM Author: Smoky Stage Fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#36859309) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM Author: beady-eyed opaque double fault As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- There are only four things certain since Social Progress began -- That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire -- And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! |