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poetry seems like a lost art

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cracking nursing home
  02/17/18
i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. ...
gay theater stage dingle berry
  02/17/18
especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.
cracking nursing home
  02/17/18
yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. ...
gay theater stage dingle berry
  02/17/18
I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as f...
cracking nursing home
  02/17/18
exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t...
Amethyst prole
  02/17/18
there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a &...
gay theater stage dingle berry
  02/17/18
The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the so...
Up-to-no-good histrionic athletic conference
  02/17/18
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stirring tripping weed whacker university
  09/21/18
Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"
Spectacular Crackhouse Preventive Strike
  02/17/18
rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry
cracking nursing home
  02/17/18
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beady-eyed school cafeteria private investor
  02/17/18
real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart peopl...
talented people who are hurt
  02/17/18
120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd
cracking nursing home
  02/17/18
actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't...
gay theater stage dingle berry
  02/17/18
Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers a...
Vermilion Dashing Locus
  02/17/18
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bat shit crazy obsidian wrinkle pit
  02/18/18
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Up-to-no-good histrionic athletic conference
  02/18/18
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talented people who are hurt
  02/17/18
art is a lost art
bat shit crazy obsidian wrinkle pit
  02/17/18
nigger: a poem
motley sanctuary
  02/18/18
eloquent
cracking nursing home
  02/18/18
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stirring tripping weed whacker university
  09/21/18
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- ...
Sooty painfully honest main people
  09/21/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: cracking nursing home



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: gay theater stage dingle berry

i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: gay theater stage dingle berry

yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Amethyst prole

exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: gay theater stage dingle berry

there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:

"And hence no force, however great,

Can draw a cord, however fine,

Into a horizontal line

Which shall be absolutely straight."

that's the same meter as:

"I hold it true, whate'er befall;

I feel it when I sorrow most;

'Tis better to have loved and lost

Than never to have loved at all."

but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good histrionic athletic conference

The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why.

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: stirring tripping weed whacker university



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Spectacular Crackhouse Preventive Strike

Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: beady-eyed school cafeteria private investor



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: talented people who are hurt

real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: gay theater stage dingle berry

actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Vermilion Dashing Locus

Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: bat shit crazy obsidian wrinkle pit



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good histrionic athletic conference



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: talented people who are hurt



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: bat shit crazy obsidian wrinkle pit

art is a lost art

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: motley sanctuary
Subject: nigger: a poem

nigger.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

eloquent

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: stirring tripping weed whacker university



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Sooty painfully honest main people

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --

That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,

And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

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