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poetry seems like a lost art

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Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena
  02/17/18
i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. ...
Beady-eyed crusty gas station
  02/17/18
especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.
Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena
  02/17/18
yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. ...
Beady-eyed crusty gas station
  02/17/18
I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as f...
Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena
  02/17/18
exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t...
Floppy Bawdyhouse
  02/17/18
there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a &...
Beady-eyed crusty gas station
  02/17/18
The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the so...
Contagious Philosopher-king Site
  02/17/18
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Geriatric vigorous candlestick maker
  09/21/18
Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"
black razzmatazz abode liquid oxygen
  02/17/18
rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry
Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena
  02/17/18
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Mustard Kitty
  02/17/18
real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart peopl...
rose apoplectic lay sound barrier
  02/17/18
120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd
Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena
  02/17/18
actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't...
Beady-eyed crusty gas station
  02/17/18
Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers a...
comical ebony area
  02/17/18
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Fragrant space telephone
  02/18/18
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Contagious Philosopher-king Site
  02/18/18
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rose apoplectic lay sound barrier
  02/17/18
art is a lost art
Fragrant space telephone
  02/17/18
nigger: a poem
Lime hell voyeur
  02/18/18
eloquent
Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena
  02/18/18
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Geriatric vigorous candlestick maker
  09/21/18
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- ...
Sadistic tank tattoo
  09/21/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Beady-eyed crusty gas station

i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena

especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Beady-eyed crusty gas station

yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena

I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Floppy Bawdyhouse

exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Beady-eyed crusty gas station

there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:

"And hence no force, however great,

Can draw a cord, however fine,

Into a horizontal line

Which shall be absolutely straight."

that's the same meter as:

"I hold it true, whate'er befall;

I feel it when I sorrow most;

'Tis better to have loved and lost

Than never to have loved at all."

but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Contagious Philosopher-king Site

The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why.

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Geriatric vigorous candlestick maker



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: black razzmatazz abode liquid oxygen

Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena

rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Mustard Kitty



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: rose apoplectic lay sound barrier

real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena

120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed crusty gas station

actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: comical ebony area

Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Fragrant space telephone



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Contagious Philosopher-king Site



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: rose apoplectic lay sound barrier



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Fragrant space telephone

art is a lost art

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: Lime hell voyeur
Subject: nigger: a poem

nigger.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Maniacal thriller resort striped hyena

eloquent

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Geriatric vigorous candlestick maker



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Sadistic tank tattoo

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --

That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,

And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

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