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The urban yuppie aesthetic of the late-80's to mid-90's isn't discussed much
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Date: February 20th, 2018 11:51 PM Author: Massive aphrodisiac liquid oxygen there doesn't seem to be all that much NOSTALGIA for this whole aesthetic, even though it was big for a while and had a lot of money behind it. by this, i'm talking about the whole cultural complex of smooth jazz/soft rock, media/TV shows, and marketing campaigns focused at the sub-elite urban/suburban striver-class during that era. i'd say the aesthetic began to coalesce toward the end of the 1980's, and was on its way out by late-1995/early-1996, as pop music became more electronic and the internet bubble expanded.
it's kind of difficult to find examples to use as "platonic forms" of this stuff, since it was kind of diffuse and tended to lack an aesthetic core. it was more like a mood - slightly anesthetized, inoffensive, clean, meant to slide easily into the background so that you could focus on your work. this print ad captures some of the spirit:
https://i.imgur.com/xBkE4BK.jpg
notice how there really IS no background here - there appears to be a hill or something to the right, across some indistinct waters, but those features have been smoothed out so that they become a texture rather than a landscape. the calm coloration and vague nature theme recalls the commercial form of the "new age" aesthetic popular at the time.
the music was similar, which is perhaps why most of it has vanished from the cultural imagination. it included songs like "house of stone and light," musicians like kenny g and enigma, and lots of landscape imagery of beaches or places other than your office:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upJxt64uRWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_VcZsax4Z0
this music tended to DALLY with other styles (like R&B or rock) without actually BEING them. eg, the use of R&B or jazz-style horns but within the general idiom of the style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS2Hp9Ck9mQ
or "bluesy" guitar lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_QGJE94iOM
TV media included shows like murphy brown, mad about you, and a variety of long-forgotten adult-oriented drama series like "homefront" or "midnight caller."
i feel like this whole cultural epoch was more important than we assume - this stuff was a sort of distilled, syncretized expression of a culture for people whose deracination meant that they had lost their own. |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:28 PM Author: Bearded State DALLY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37876611) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 4:25 AM Author: hyperactive coffee pot (retard who thinks american psycho never became a cult hit) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880686) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 8:41 PM Author: Massive aphrodisiac liquid oxygen american psycho did not cover this cultural epoch nor its media. american psycho was about mid-80's NYC yuppies and their sociopathic vapidity. this thread is about a more diffuse set of interlocking aesthetics which were, broadly, designed to serve as background media for the broader north american white-collar consumer classes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37884373) |
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Date: March 6th, 2019 8:13 AM Author: hyperactive coffee pot American Psycho is set in 1987 you pretentious faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37886292) |
Date: February 20th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: Galvanic Ebony Orchestra Pit not sure if it was contained to just yuppies - a lot of ads back then generally looked like that. very clean aesthetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35449983) |
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Date: February 20th, 2018 11:54 PM Author: Massive aphrodisiac liquid oxygen no, it was all over the place, but it emerged from efforts to market to these high-value yuppies with their busy worklives and disposable incomes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35449995) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:58 PM Author: brass space Excellent post, and I get what you're getting at, but it's hard to encapsulate, as you suggested.
I think this was also reflected in early 90s movies, rife with bland nonthreatening performers like Kevin Kline, Andie McDowell, Alec Baldwin (before the bloated scumbag phase), Matthew Modine, et al |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:49 PM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button matthew modine had a classic late 80s- early 90s soft yuppie aesthetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35457586) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:51 PM Author: brass space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Heights_(film)
The quintessential *yuppie* suspense movie |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:01 PM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461092) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 9:20 PM Author: Big-titted fragrant crotch cr. a ruthless prole terrorizes two hapless new money dorks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#36497357) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 8:55 AM Author: Translucent set trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37875109) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:29 PM Author: Bearded State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37876616) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 8:12 AM Author: sinister confused pistol sandwich lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37875040) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:18 PM Author: aromatic lavender dog poop lots of songs with pan-flute synths. I MUST GO THERE! TO FIND MY SOUL, YEAH! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35457273) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Mustard histrionic field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461079) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:23 PM Author: irradiated fat ankles organic girlfriend dances with wolves too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463526) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:21 AM Author: crawly school boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880649) |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 4:12 AM Author: Aquamarine Contagious Halford Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#46352764) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Tanning Salon Is this related to the rise of starbucks and other premium coffee beverages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35457524) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Burgundy godawful bawdyhouse psychic yeah, and the reason there is no nostalgia is same reason frasier is kind of shit on by millennials. its embarrassing for them to admit their tastes are really just slight progressions from what their lame ass yuppy parents were into. frasier reminds them too much of themselves and get offended at their pomposity being made fun of (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461089) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:33 PM Author: motley piazza mental disorder Never seen anyone shit on Frasier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463620) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:54 PM Author: Burgundy godawful bawdyhouse psychic https://www.salon.com/2014/05/13/the_tenth_anniversary_of_frasier_proves_the_limits_of_internet_nostalgia/
http://theweek.com/articles/446771/how-frasier-became-most-nostalgiaproof-tv-show-90s |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 3:39 PM Author: duck-like business firm steez, askav -- pls respond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35515664) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 3:56 PM Author: cracking kitty cat wholly shit.
stopped reading and threw my touchpad out of a 27th story window (its ok) when the second one started quoting the first one about Frasier not being "unique" compared to fucking FRIENDS.
here's the real answer: frasier's fans are neither 1) the birdbrains who make nostalgia pinterestcupcaketampons for friends or 2) the (((people))) who retcon cultural history to serve whatever their current shtick happens to be; they are straight(ish), male, goy intellectuals.
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:04 PM Author: heady copper theater stage newt lol, titcr, except the part about goys/jews. Plenty of jews like(d) frasier. Those articles are bs. Obviously the target audience for frasier is smaller and older than for Friends. I actually think Frasier holds up a lot better than even Seinfeld. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35515793) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:04 PM Author: rambunctious bull headed school cafeteria >> I actually think Frasier holds up a lot better than even Seinfeld. <<
(antisemite) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:12 PM Author: cracking kitty cat sure, plenty of jews watched frasier. but it doesnt resonate in the jewish soul the way seinfeld does. (seinfeld's the "the inexorable triumph of banal, amoral soullessness in a modern society of rootless cosmopolitans" IS jewish soul, such as it is)
but it has little appeal for those who would use it as a prop for the narrative. ie, nobody besides askav is posting hot takes about frasier or the importance of its unexpected renaissance in 2018/continuing moral relevance/profound aesthetic achievement that until now has gone unnoticed/etc.
clearly it would be absurd to say its dated in the way that murphy brown or mad about you are dated (because they always sucked).
edit: see further explanation of frasier's goy audience; its the dog that doesnt bark more than anything |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:22 PM Author: heady copper theater stage newt "but it has little appeal for those who would use it as a prop for the narrative."
True, but that has nothing to do with jewish people. The people who write those articles are young hipster losers who make $26k. These types are actually parodied on Frasier (zoey deschanel played one of them I think; she's a pretentious know-it-all hipster who shits on everything and is the station manager's niece visiting seattle). The show is timeless for professional intellectual types who came from middle or working class families. I know plenty of jews like that. |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:22 AM Author: Flirting temple reading party It's possible for Jews to watch and enjoy Frasier, just as Jews watch and enjoy, say, basketball. An object of anthropological significance or fascination. And while Frasier may bear superficially greater resemblance to the lived Jewish experience than does Bronx hooping, in the final analysis I think it can be demonstrated that Frasier welcomes Jewishness about as well as Julio welcomes Paul Simon down by the schoolyard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519782) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:29 PM Author: odious buck-toothed ladyboy cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#38102948) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:57 PM Author: exhilarant charcoal kitchen Excellent post. I don't have much to add other than I was a kid then and thought all this shit sucked. As an adult, I feel the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35457656) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:05 PM Author: disturbing locus brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463357) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Burgundy godawful bawdyhouse psychic https://i.imgur.com/NqmBE9t.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461070) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:58 PM Author: thriller ocher codepig ticket booth Nirvana killed it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461075) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:46 PM Author: Vermilion cuck Per below it was Nirvana plus MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice ----> The Chronic in the span of about 18 months. This whole thread is about the hold over late 80s vibe that was this Cosby-induced delusion that affluence and post-racialism was the future, all while the inner cities were awash in crack and murder rates were spiking to an insane degree. Places not far from the Village in the early 90s were literally open air shooting galleries, but in Friends everyone was white and sipping espresso. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463742) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:43 AM Author: Free-loading Stimulating Laser Beams Indian Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880666) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Bearded State i associate this with the rise of computer assisted graphic design (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461088) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:08 PM Author: brass space This was almost definitely definitely a factor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461174) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Burgundy godawful bawdyhouse psychic my aunt was a prole version of this, loved smooth jazz, south western motif and had cutout pictures of playgirl and chippendale buff studs at her work station. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461097) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:03 PM Author: flickering mediation This was an era of sade and twin peaks and people's furniture was black and white and heavily lacquered. People owned fishtanks and waterbeds.
There was also a very short club music scene with deep voiced black female singers, and that was all gone by 1995.
I liked this surreal era. No idea how it just evaporated
But this is also American psycho era so we've not forgotten it |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Bearded State the whole thing had a laid-back nebulously french or at least european vibe, like everyone was fashionable, sophisticated, listening to soulful but tastefully nonchalant music. it was a time of great cultural confidence. despite rodney king, it felt in adult pop culture there was a detente in race relations. then various forms of disaffection broke out of their subcultures into the mainstream, principally through music (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461246) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:22 PM Author: flickering mediation Then Rodney king, for sure, and rap/hiphop just got harder.
There was a huge black influence, not just in music and TV but also in fashion. White people wore cross colours https://goo.gl/images/sN6XCB And watched the NBA. Popular music was boys II men and en vogue. This was slightly past Whitney Houston popularity but blacks were still white washed but influential |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:47 AM Author: Free-loading Stimulating Laser Beams Indian Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880668) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 4:28 AM Author: Glassy sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880687) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Irate carmine stead fanboi It's weird how distinct eras could come and go so quickly back then but that never happens anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461382) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:12 AM Author: Cyan black woman "There was also a very short club music scene with deep voiced black female singers, and that was all gone by 1995."
You mean Grace Jones? She's great. |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:22 AM Author: crawly school boiling water Rhythm is a dancer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880652) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Burgundy godawful bawdyhouse psychic is new jack swing and italo inspired black disco music included in this. shit like
black box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdwGJTxnSQI
or chiller stuff like des'ree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ6lk3XRp8c |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Bearded State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35462129) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 1:11 PM Author: rambunctious bull headed school cafeteria love the inclusion of former 90210 star Jamie Walters, who is now a firefighter/EMT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35461213) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 3:31 PM Author: Cheese-eating soul-stirring church building Would you say Clark Griswold’s neighbors in CHRISTMAS VACATION embody this aesthetic?
How about DONNA in the later seasons of Halt and Catch Fire? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 3:31 PM Author: fuchsia excitant theater ty for this tasty sweet treat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35462482) |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 5:49 AM Author: 180 smoky house keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#46417274) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 3:57 PM Author: duck-like business firm in clothing, it seems to have been peak infuence for The Gap, which was really high quality buckwild running shit then.
in interior design, it seems to be a streamlined version and logical conclusion of richard gere's office scenes in pretty woman, a takeoff on business grey. Soft, pastel pinks. The silvers and golds as trim. Thin leaf plants, either real or fake. Dads office had all of that, it was a really comfortable room. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM Author: irradiated fat ankles organic girlfriend TCR. I recall very tame "western" style (using turquoise color, dusty pinks, etc.,but with a touch of Memphis school design, and combined with fake sort of stone vases that were sprayed for texture) having a bit of a moment too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463377) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 3:59 PM Author: Pink affirmative action idiot how is the show friends not mentioned once ITT
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:00 PM Author: duck-like business firm Friends is solidly mid-90s to late-90s. It came in at the very end of the trend discussed in the OP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35462774) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:01 PM Author: fuchsia excitant theater cr. more of a "baggy ribbed sweater with a single chest stripe" type scene. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35462790) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:43 PM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button early chandler probably fit the aesthetic, with his flowy hair and baggy ribbed cardigans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463179) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM Author: irradiated fat ankles organic girlfriend Vests, too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463380) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:19 PM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button yeah, that's what i meant. IIRC, he wore the button up vests, fully unbuttoned, with some sort of billowy shirt underneath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463494) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:23 PM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button https://mygoldandsilverbeauty.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/aww1.png https://78.media.tumblr.com/0ac0eb1006fd5705bb37ff54c054bea2/tumblr_opaq4tU3rb1w320ago4_500.jpg |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 5:41 PM Author: Bearded State 180 this style is due to come back around on the fashion carousel. Maybe Odell Beckham can revive it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35516434) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:50 AM Author: Free-loading Stimulating Laser Beams Indian Lodge oh wow i remember those vests. woah flashback! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880669) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:09 PM Author: fishy vivacious juggernaut stock car Obviously the novel American Psycho critiques this period/culture through extreme hyperbole, but I think it captures that zeitgeist really well. Yuppies making a ton of money in finance, partying hard, caring a great deal about their appearance and clothing, and the rise of ultra-trendy restaurants and food where the entire meal seems like an amuse-bouche. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35462866) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:40 PM Author: fishy vivacious juggernaut stock car I also picture more New Wave music, like Talking Heads, than smooth jazz and the other music mentioned ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463146) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:42 PM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button this was a more generic, less hip type of yuppie. almost a bit suburban in their tastes. talking heads might have been too cool for them, and too early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463170) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Massive aphrodisiac liquid oxygen new wave and the 80's yuppie aesthetic was a bit before this epoch. that scene probably peaked around 1985. around then, there was a band called "Nu Shooz," which began as an actual 12-piece band in the late-70's, but adopted synths and sampling technology to create an extremely streamlined and slick version of "dance music" in the mid-80's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1tBVtYOBc
this song was an early progenitor of this whole early-90's aesthetic - it managed to "sand down" the irregularities and peculiar tones of a genre like 80's freestyle/R&B into a more generic product. critics at the time wondered if the song had been generated by computers.
if we follow this trend, we end up with albums like "Dollars and Sex" (1991) by the English band The Escape Club. they had a late-80's hit with "Wild Wild West," but their follow-up album was pure smoothed-down aging yuppie bait:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9mEYZxkDsM
notice how the album's "rock" song is not really a rock song at all, but more like a generic regurgitation of all these aesthetic themes on "rock" mode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7RJXLwTvA
a lot of bands released singles in this mode during this era. here's "love at first sight" by styx:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6oUbKRok6o
notice how it sounds like a digested and reformatted version of their "real" music. and yet, i don't think the genre was "fake" in the sense of something fraudulent; i think it had its own interior logic - to be vaguely comforting, vaguely 'sophisticated,' suitable for polite company, and, somehow, not TOO memorable - keep things out of the foreground of memory; act more like a blanket. and there was a lot of emotional "demand" for this stuff at that time. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:21 PM Author: duck-like business firm "vaguely comforting, vaguely 'sophisticated,' suitable for polite company, and, somehow, not TOO memorable - keep things out of the foreground of memory; act more like a blanket." this description is literally advice for being a con man, such as what brad pitt told matt damon in ocean's eleven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463503) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:50 PM Author: brass space No, AP is squarely in the late-mid 80s; I don't think it really captures what OP has in mind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463246) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM Author: irradiated fat ankles organic girlfriend AP is about the real NYC culture that begat a lot of what OP is talking about in the rest of the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463348) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:18 PM Author: fishy vivacious juggernaut stock car So NYC yuppies had JJC-wet-dream finance jobs, listened to good New Wave, and ate at trendy restaurants; then, 5 years later, this culture trickled down to the rest of the country (but in provincial form) and yuppies in Cincinnati tried to emulate that culture but instead listened to horrible Kenny G shit and wore their baggy cardigans to Fudruckers for what they called "power meetings"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463485) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:21 PM Author: irradiated fat ankles organic girlfriend More like people in the suburbs generally started to more emulate what was going on in the cities. It was trickle down and it took way, way longer to trickle down in the pre-Internet era.
But definitely people in the burbs became more interested in modern art, dance music, and dining trends during this time period. Just like how in the mid-2000's suburbs started to Brooklyn-ify with gastropubs and shit everywhere. |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:54 AM Author: Free-loading Stimulating Laser Beams Indian Lodge modern art and dance music was indeed such a yuppie thing. of course those things were probably born somewhere far from yuppieland, but they embraced it en mass as a way of life, commodified it. we still live in a time of modern art and dance music, in some different version of it maybe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880674) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:23 PM Author: duck-like business firm you got it; BUT, before the hyperstratification of the 2000s, cleveland (and the rest of non-coastal, Real America) was vastly downmarket from New York City by aesthetic TASTE, but not by purchasing power; it was a lot more prole than MFH in the colors it chose, not as much in the amount of money it could spend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463531) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:27 PM Author: fishy vivacious juggernaut stock car There's some real scholarship happening in this thread.
I think that's definitely CR. You still had industries in these towns (though it was already in decline). I'm sure there were plenty of rustbelt manufacturing executives who were plenty wealthy and powerful but just thought Kenny G and Olive Garden were "sophisticated." |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:48 PM Author: impressive pungent address macaca 'Lexus' cars came out of this whenever i think of that period, i think of this stereo i had that was painted w/ like grey *texture* paint, so it was almost like concrete-looking, so it looked... i don't know, understated and *sleek* and *modern*... and people had so many random black & white pictures hanging everywhere. and commercials were randomly in 'tasteful' black & white, or Madonna/George Michael videos, etc. w/ a random NEON streak splash of colour. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:54 PM Author: rambunctious bull headed school cafeteria https://youtu.be/AktHnnA9QIM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463281) |
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Date: June 15th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: flatulent light meetinghouse fortuitous meteor Ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#44687002) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:49 PM Author: blue concupiscible love of her life I seem to recall a lot of sweater vests and curtain style hair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463230) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:59 PM Author: irradiated fat ankles organic girlfriend You forgot about Michael Bolton! Also John Tesh and his radio show. Fuck the whole world felt like you were in a dentist office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463314) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 3:46 PM Author: Bearded State that's a good description (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35515700) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:31 PM Author: Gold diverse ape isn't this exactly what got remixed into vaporwave / city-wave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35463596) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Bearded State really miss these ranging HDSP discursions with liberal use of scare quotes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35515702) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:02 PM Author: Maize sick brunch The “softer side of Sears” commercials were geared towards this demo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35515780) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:16 PM Author: cracking kitty cat dont worry i realized there IS one momentary peak to encapsulate this entire idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WuGDYawFQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35515874) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Massive aphrodisiac liquid oxygen i'd say that one of the important way-markers in the development of this style was the song "Lily Was Here," by Candy Dulfer and Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnTxmgWXt64
it was released in late-1989, and became a pop radio hit in the US in 1990. it was actually written as background music for a film, but by that time, the psychoemotional style described in this thread was ready to gobble it up on its own. |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 9:53 AM Author: Bearded State (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519634) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:22 AM Author: Cyan black woman The tv show thirtysomething (1987-1991) exists around this culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519785) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:44 AM Author: Flirting temple reading party is "the king of wishful thinking" a part of this? if not why not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519934) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:47 AM Author: flatulent light meetinghouse fortuitous meteor Yes, also In a Big Country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519944) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:50 AM Author: domesticated bateful factory reset button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519962) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:51 AM Author: Bearded State that's yacht rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35519969) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 8:32 AM Author: razzle fantasy-prone french chef No, it's blue-eyed soul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37875061) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 10:47 AM Author: boyish scarlet heaven mad cow disease As mentioned already, this is the vaporwave aesthetic. Not that that's mainstream but it exists.
CHILI BOWL HAIRCUTS | BUTTON UP SILK SHIRTS | PAGERS |
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Date: March 2nd, 2018 2:38 PM Author: Bright Giraffe Base Lots of glass blocks http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901866&mc=47&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35521471) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: odious buck-toothed ladyboy cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#35692917) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: Flirting temple reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#36496423) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: mahogany hall I knew of some yuppies who had a Saab with the vanity plate SNAAB. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#36497043) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Mind-boggling messiness clown INFINITI ads with Jonathan Pryce, suave and highbrow as FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8kvg1IGn4&list=PL8XKK4U_sjfiYaavh5-vaNjF4AefyhFnF |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:20 PM Author: sienna dead depressive nursing home it's a shame the internal power struggles between nissan japanese leadership and infiniti leadership stateside, nissan trying to keep infiniti down and prevent innovation
infiniti at one point could've been the lexus or better, but prissy japanese execs were too afraid |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 7:25 AM Author: odious buck-toothed ladyboy cruise ship https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2977987353_10.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37874920) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 8:16 AM Author: emerald demanding casino chad 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37875043) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:56 AM Author: Free-loading Stimulating Laser Beams Indian Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880676) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 11:27 AM Author: blue concupiscible love of her life The movie Singles did a good job with the aesthetic of this. Also had the grunge/indie versus yuppie dynamic. My first experiences with MTVs the Real World were at this time. If you check out clips of the NY, LA, SF seasons you get a real feel for the vibe, style, and lingo of the time. Then, after fully indulging in all that nostalgia, take a Glock-19 out of your boyfriends purse and shoot your fucking brain out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37875871) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:14 PM Author: ultramarine property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37876516) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:18 PM Author: sienna dead depressive nursing home fuck yeah this scholarship is the only reason i'm still on the zo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37876540) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:39 PM Author: supple rehab weed whacker It was during this time that the hard hitting serious topic for every episode format really thrived. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37876686) |
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Date: March 4th, 2019 1:41 PM Author: Bearded State https://www.passionweiss.com/2018/09/07/shitty-90s-adult-contemporary-mix/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37876696) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 2:38 AM Author: Haunting gay wizard are there any other threads that talk about a pop culture phenomenon in as great detail as this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880601) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 2:57 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle senate Nah, mostly just Trump and anti semitic threads recently (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880627) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2019 2:25 AM Author: Haunting gay wizard wait, found one
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2194688&mc=97&forum_id=2 |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 8:42 PM Author: Massive aphrodisiac liquid oxygen what should i do next? i'm thinking of revisiting either the 1950's revival of the 70's and 80's, or the 1980's baby boomer obsession with motown and 1960's soul music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37884379) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 8:43 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm latter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37884387) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 8:44 PM Author: exhilarant charcoal kitchen former, i dont know anything about that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37884390) |
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Date: March 6th, 2019 12:34 AM Author: duck-like business firm BOTH, comrade, it is imperative that you post MOAR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37885617) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:28 AM Author: crawly school boiling water I feel like this is relevant: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cfab37NgRlE/Vw6vx4z5GyI/AAAAAAAAcrM/_rVyb7THxLgPU3Yh0zmPKuqbKSXV5XfgQCKgB/s1600/X-Men%2B%2528vol.%2B2%2529%2B%25231%2B-%2BReunited.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#37880655) |
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Date: March 5th, 2019 3:44 AM Author: crawly school boiling water Enya’s “Orinoco Flow” and “Book of Days” fit in here somewhere
For the same reason the “Pure Moods” compilation CD was such a big hit |
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Date: June 15th, 2022 8:45 AM Author: flatulent light meetinghouse fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#44687018) |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 5:51 AM Author: electric fiercely-loyal hissy fit My HS gf like to fuck to Enya... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#46417281) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:43 PM Author: curious useless round eye abode The people who watched Twin Peaks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#38102997) |
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Date: May 13th, 2019 3:07 PM Author: odious buck-toothed ladyboy cruise ship (virulent racist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#38229078) |
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Date: June 15th, 2022 3:42 AM Author: Swashbuckling mint striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#44686555) |
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Date: June 15th, 2022 6:56 AM Author: fishy vivacious juggernaut stock car The parents in Rugrats capture this perfectly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#44686794) |
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Date: May 25th, 2023 3:45 AM Author: Haunting gay wizard Adam Sandler's character on Uncut Gems was trying to ape this style (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#46352754) |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 4:12 AM Author: Haunting gay wizard Frasurbane:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5db458/what-is-frasurbane-style-trend-frasier |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 4:53 AM Author: Glittery spot half-breed Was "L.A. Story" (1991) starring Steve Martin part of this aesthetic?
https://www.film-rezensionen.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/LA-Story-Szene-3-scaled.jpg |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 5:00 AM Author: electric fiercely-loyal hissy fit yes, see his jackets (and yes, Cyrano is timeless- see Roxanne) |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 5:40 AM Author: Glittery spot half-breed Check out the soundtrack and whole visual aesthetic in this scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXT3FvfLOI |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 5:50 AM Author: 180 smoky house keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#46417278) |
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Date: June 12th, 2023 5:53 AM Author: electric fiercely-loyal hissy fit JFC, Victoria Tennant was hot back then. And I had two GFs then with that exact same haircut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899144&forum_id=2#46417284) |