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True PATRIOT and SCHOLAR xo jared taylor suing tttwitttttter

https://youtu.be/CUg5TrWzjzY
misanthropic site
  02/21/18
Full complaint: https://www.scribd.com/document/372035678/Ta...
misanthropic site
  02/21/18
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misanthropic site
  02/21/18
Randazza is bringing some pretty novel claims here. The only...
Cream big center
  02/21/18
All the claims look viable to me. Whether a shitlib Californ...
misanthropic site
  02/21/18
Did you even read it? The California constitutional claims u...
Cream big center
  02/21/18
Yes, and the complaint sets out the grounds for the relief r...
misanthropic site
  02/21/18
This legal tactic has been bandied about in conservative leg...
Crimson ape party of the first part
  02/21/18
...
misanthropic site
  02/21/18
Just because idiots bandy something about doesn't mean it is...
Cream big center
  02/22/18
Cal SC had its chance to overturn Pruneyard and - stupidly -...
aqua stag film
  02/22/18
They affirmed it but also narrowed its scope significantly. ...
Cream big center
  02/22/18
Actual lawyer here, yes the Cal SC could always create some ...
aqua stag film
  02/22/18
Maybe, except the Cal. Sup. Ct. came back in Ralphs Grocery ...
Cream big center
  02/22/18
going to be upfront here buddy - I'm actually *on* the Calif...
aqua stag film
  02/22/18
LOL. Alright then.
Cream big center
  02/22/18
...
misanthropic site
  02/22/18
tuhhhwhhitter
Mint Hairraiser Athletic Conference Garrison
  02/21/18
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brindle circlehead pit
  02/21/18
...
stirring lay
  02/21/18
Are there no scholars on xo to analyze what could be a landm...
misanthropic site
  02/21/18
do you think we're lawyers or something?
stirring lay
  02/21/18
???
cobalt theater cuckold
  02/22/18
no
charismatic harsh bawdyhouse
  02/22/18
...
charismatic harsh bawdyhouse
  02/22/18
is there a legal basis for the argument that a private compa...
Startling stage
  02/22/18
Yes
misanthropic site
  02/22/18
Not really. The argument they're making is based on the ...
Cream big center
  02/22/18
so you're saying they're making an argument and there is a l...
brindle circlehead pit
  02/22/18
I'm saying the argument they're making isn't based on associ...
Cream big center
  02/22/18
There are also contractual and other statutory arguments bes...
misanthropic site
  02/22/18


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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: misanthropic site

https://youtu.be/CUg5TrWzjzY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451667)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: misanthropic site

Full complaint: https://www.scribd.com/document/372035678/Taylor-v-Twitter-Complaint

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451721)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: misanthropic site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451867)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:38 AM
Author: Cream big center

Randazza is bringing some pretty novel claims here. The only one that looks remotely viable to me is the breach of contract claim against Twitter over the terms of service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451970)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: misanthropic site

All the claims look viable to me. Whether a shitlib California judge will agree is another story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35452513)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: Cream big center

Did you even read it? The California constitutional claims under Robins v. Pruneyard are interesting, but a YUGE stretch. Same with the Unruh claims.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35453990)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: misanthropic site

Yes, and the complaint sets out the grounds for the relief requested quite clearly. I'm sure there's competing case law on the other side and perhaps it's overwhelming against Taylor but I wouldn't describe the claims as a stretch on paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35454064)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Crimson ape party of the first part

This legal tactic has been bandied about in conservative legal circles for some time

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/twitters-censorship-may-be-unconstitutional/article/2617261

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457710)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: misanthropic site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457845)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: Cream big center

Just because idiots bandy something about doesn't mean it is valid.

The California Supreme Court has spent 30 years limiting its Pruneyard decision to the point where it literally only applies to facts that are on all fours. Turning Twitter into that kind of public square - even with the U.S. Supreme Court's dicta in Packingham - is going to be a tremendous uphill battle. Not saying it's impossible, just novel and unlikely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459421)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:29 AM
Author: aqua stag film

Cal SC had its chance to overturn Pruneyard and - stupidly - affirmed it 4-3.

I don't see how there's any way Twitter avoids a pruneyard claim unless they finally overturn it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459348)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: Cream big center

They affirmed it but also narrowed its scope significantly. See above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459424)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: aqua stag film

Actual lawyer here, yes the Cal SC could always create some results-oriented jurisprudence and decide that Pruneyard doesn't apply to twitter because, mumble mumble mumble, but any honest application of the precedent would hold that Pruneyard either applies to Twitter or should be overturned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459575)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Cream big center

Maybe, except the Cal. Sup. Ct. came back in Ralphs Grocery Co. v. United Food and Commercial Workers Union (2012) and signficantly limited Pruneyard's application to public gathering areas at shopping centers. The principles may be similar, but there are major differences, beginning with the user agreement that one has to enter into in order to use Twitter's services.

Again, they might get there, but it's going to be a big stretch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459750)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: aqua stag film

going to be upfront here buddy - I'm actually *on* the California Supreme Court and I'm planning on holding that Pruneyard applies. HTMFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459881)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Cream big center

LOL. Alright then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459884)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: misanthropic site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459851)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: Mint Hairraiser Athletic Conference Garrison

tuhhhwhhitter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451737)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: brindle circlehead pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35454017)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: stirring lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457801)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: misanthropic site

Are there no scholars on xo to analyze what could be a landmark case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457638)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: stirring lay

do you think we're lawyers or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457804)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:27 AM
Author: cobalt theater cuckold

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459337)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:46 AM
Author: charismatic harsh bawdyhouse

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459433)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:49 AM
Author: charismatic harsh bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459444)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Startling stage

is there a legal basis for the argument that a private company should be required to associate with white nationalists even if it doesnt want to?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460148)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: misanthropic site

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460220)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: Cream big center

Not really.

The argument they're making is based on the Pruneyard decision of the Cal. Sup. Ct. that allows private property to be treated as a public forum in limited circumstances, thereby limiting the property owner's ability to limit speech in that place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460245)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: brindle circlehead pit

so you're saying they're making an argument and there is a legal basis for that argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460249)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: Cream big center

I'm saying the argument they're making isn't based on association, which is what the OP of this subthread asked about.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460270)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: misanthropic site

There are also contractual and other statutory arguments besides the California constitution made which all have prima facie bases. Obviously there isn't a direct precedent and that's why it could be a landmark case but the foundation to build it is there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460853)