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True PATRIOT and SCHOLAR xo jared taylor suing tttwitttttter

https://youtu.be/CUg5TrWzjzY
spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
Full complaint: https://www.scribd.com/document/372035678/Ta...
spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
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spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
Randazza is bringing some pretty novel claims here. The only...
black spectacular mexican
  02/21/18
All the claims look viable to me. Whether a shitlib Californ...
spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
Did you even read it? The California constitutional claims u...
black spectacular mexican
  02/21/18
Yes, and the complaint sets out the grounds for the relief r...
spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
This legal tactic has been bandied about in conservative leg...
Heady kitty
  02/21/18
...
spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
Just because idiots bandy something about doesn't mean it is...
black spectacular mexican
  02/22/18
Cal SC had its chance to overturn Pruneyard and - stupidly -...
Tantric Location
  02/22/18
They affirmed it but also narrowed its scope significantly. ...
black spectacular mexican
  02/22/18
Actual lawyer here, yes the Cal SC could always create some ...
Tantric Location
  02/22/18
Maybe, except the Cal. Sup. Ct. came back in Ralphs Grocery ...
black spectacular mexican
  02/22/18
going to be upfront here buddy - I'm actually *on* the Calif...
Tantric Location
  02/22/18
LOL. Alright then.
black spectacular mexican
  02/22/18
...
spruce ticket booth
  02/22/18
tuhhhwhhitter
dun giraffe
  02/21/18
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pale nowag
  02/21/18
...
smoky disturbing locus
  02/21/18
Are there no scholars on xo to analyze what could be a landm...
spruce ticket booth
  02/21/18
do you think we're lawyers or something?
smoky disturbing locus
  02/21/18
???
twisted vivacious temple boiling water
  02/22/18
no
Bat-shit-crazy Halford
  02/22/18
...
Bat-shit-crazy Halford
  02/22/18
is there a legal basis for the argument that a private compa...
Honey-headed stage jap
  02/22/18
Yes
spruce ticket booth
  02/22/18
Not really. The argument they're making is based on the ...
black spectacular mexican
  02/22/18
so you're saying they're making an argument and there is a l...
pale nowag
  02/22/18
I'm saying the argument they're making isn't based on associ...
black spectacular mexican
  02/22/18
There are also contractual and other statutory arguments bes...
spruce ticket booth
  02/22/18


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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: spruce ticket booth

https://youtu.be/CUg5TrWzjzY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451667)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: spruce ticket booth

Full complaint: https://www.scribd.com/document/372035678/Taylor-v-Twitter-Complaint

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451721)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: spruce ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451867)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:38 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

Randazza is bringing some pretty novel claims here. The only one that looks remotely viable to me is the breach of contract claim against Twitter over the terms of service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451970)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: spruce ticket booth

All the claims look viable to me. Whether a shitlib California judge will agree is another story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35452513)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: black spectacular mexican

Did you even read it? The California constitutional claims under Robins v. Pruneyard are interesting, but a YUGE stretch. Same with the Unruh claims.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35453990)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: spruce ticket booth

Yes, and the complaint sets out the grounds for the relief requested quite clearly. I'm sure there's competing case law on the other side and perhaps it's overwhelming against Taylor but I wouldn't describe the claims as a stretch on paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35454064)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Heady kitty

This legal tactic has been bandied about in conservative legal circles for some time

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/twitters-censorship-may-be-unconstitutional/article/2617261

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457710)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: spruce ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457845)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

Just because idiots bandy something about doesn't mean it is valid.

The California Supreme Court has spent 30 years limiting its Pruneyard decision to the point where it literally only applies to facts that are on all fours. Turning Twitter into that kind of public square - even with the U.S. Supreme Court's dicta in Packingham - is going to be a tremendous uphill battle. Not saying it's impossible, just novel and unlikely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459421)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:29 AM
Author: Tantric Location

Cal SC had its chance to overturn Pruneyard and - stupidly - affirmed it 4-3.

I don't see how there's any way Twitter avoids a pruneyard claim unless they finally overturn it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459348)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

They affirmed it but also narrowed its scope significantly. See above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459424)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: Tantric Location

Actual lawyer here, yes the Cal SC could always create some results-oriented jurisprudence and decide that Pruneyard doesn't apply to twitter because, mumble mumble mumble, but any honest application of the precedent would hold that Pruneyard either applies to Twitter or should be overturned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459575)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

Maybe, except the Cal. Sup. Ct. came back in Ralphs Grocery Co. v. United Food and Commercial Workers Union (2012) and signficantly limited Pruneyard's application to public gathering areas at shopping centers. The principles may be similar, but there are major differences, beginning with the user agreement that one has to enter into in order to use Twitter's services.

Again, they might get there, but it's going to be a big stretch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459750)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Tantric Location

going to be upfront here buddy - I'm actually *on* the California Supreme Court and I'm planning on holding that Pruneyard applies. HTMFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459881)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

LOL. Alright then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459884)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: spruce ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459851)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: dun giraffe

tuhhhwhhitter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35451737)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: pale nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35454017)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: smoky disturbing locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457801)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: spruce ticket booth

Are there no scholars on xo to analyze what could be a landmark case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457638)



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Date: February 21st, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: smoky disturbing locus

do you think we're lawyers or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35457804)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:27 AM
Author: twisted vivacious temple boiling water

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459337)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:46 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Halford

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459433)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:49 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35459444)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Honey-headed stage jap

is there a legal basis for the argument that a private company should be required to associate with white nationalists even if it doesnt want to?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460148)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: spruce ticket booth

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460220)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

Not really.

The argument they're making is based on the Pruneyard decision of the Cal. Sup. Ct. that allows private property to be treated as a public forum in limited circumstances, thereby limiting the property owner's ability to limit speech in that place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460245)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: pale nowag

so you're saying they're making an argument and there is a legal basis for that argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460249)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: black spectacular mexican

I'm saying the argument they're making isn't based on association, which is what the OP of this subthread asked about.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460270)



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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: spruce ticket booth

There are also contractual and other statutory arguments besides the California constitution made which all have prima facie bases. Obviously there isn't a direct precedent and that's why it could be a landmark case but the foundation to build it is there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899355&forum_id=2#35460853)