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Clients insisting on *diversity* in firm staffing on matters
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: adventurous charcoal gas station puppy This subject really isn't getting enough discussion -- all the big financial firms (and I assume others) are getting more and more aggressive about the diversity of outside counsel on a given case or deal. You have to wonder how much discussion is going on at firms, internally and with clients, about this issue -- beyond the "optional" firm diversity surveys where they gather data.
I'm reviewing docs on a case right now where a boomer partner is sucking off inhouse counsel about how seriously he took their diversity discussion and apologizing for the fact that the current deal was staffed prior to that discussion. Seems the only way to address this in practical terms is to throw some white guys off a matter just because.
Can't help but wonder if this was a factor a few years ago when I basically had to hand over my role on a years-old case to a new WOC associate. She was perfectly competent and all but the whole thing just came out of left field. And of course, she wound up taking 2 maternity leaves in a little over 3 years before lateraling out.
I mean, if you could actually look at the process by which HR and partners meet these diversity quotas, you could probably make out the elements of a discrimination claim, no? |
Date: February 26th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: elite thirsty stag film Diversity ... non-Jews? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492070) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:18 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat its incredible bc who is the actual driving force behind this. its one thing to toss black people in your commercials and have them on your employment rolls to report to the media but caring about which lawyers work on your deals is true believer stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492084) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Some people are actual liberals who espouse these values out of principle, not for virtue signaling.
I actively hire/promote people with diversity in mind because it’s a value I deeply support. This includes gays, old/ young workers, ethnic minorities, and those with disabilities. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: confused chad heaven Since competence doesn't seem to be important to you, how do you decide the amount of diversity that is necessary when you make a choice on who gets the job (white gay female versus black male)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492154) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Competence is a key criteria, it’s just not the sole criteria by which candidates are judged. Social fit, stamina/energy, professionalism, contributions to diversity, etc. are additional “soft” factors. Most industries woefully underrepresented such groups, so to the extent we can hire and retain qualified talent from these groups, we are succeeding in ameliorating the imbalance.
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: bistre dingle berry corn cake Do your diversity hiring practices take into account the extent to which the "underrepresentation" of non-Asian minorities is due to racial differences in IQ, or do you just treat any and all imbalance as being the result of "woeful" bigotry and go from there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492294) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party You sound angry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492370) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: bistre dingle berry corn cake You sound incapable of a cogent reply. What constitutes an underrepresented group, anyway? Aren't white people underrepresented compared to Asians, and goyim compared to Jews? Do you ever attempt to hire and retain qualified talent from those groups in order to ameliorate those imbalances?
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Please Don’t shoot up any schools. Seek help now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492483) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: bistre dingle berry corn cake Ladies and gentlemen, the thoughts of a 135-IQ mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492511) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Don’t you have a manifesto to write about the persecuted white man? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492519) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: bistre dingle berry corn cake Don't you have an article to write about secret travel hacks the airline industry doesn’t want you to know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492575) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge jfc that woman has a family! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492578) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: bistre dingle berry corn cake Transform ten cents' worth of airline points into one dollar using this one weird trick! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492597) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon did you just admit to employment discrimination (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492164) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:33 PM Author: zippy vermilion corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492171) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:39 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party No, it’s calked being an affirmative action employer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492221) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: zippy vermilion corner oh, you're a federal contractor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492244) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Most companies openly have a policy of inclusiveness and value hiring a diverse workforce. In fact, they have diversity recruitment fairs, and so forth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492295) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: zippy vermilion corner of course. It nevertheless remains illegal to openly state a hiring preference based on an individual's race, sex, age, etc.
Of course, I realize we will be waiting for the heat death of the universe before you ever admit that (1) you didn't know something, or (2) you were wrong about something, so I'll end this subthread here. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492374) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Are you retarded? There is no stated preference. It is a consideration of multiple factors, moron. You’re fucking with me, right? You’re not this dense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492516) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat "retarded"? really Julia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492534) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Yes. Incapable of clear reasoning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492555) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat No, it is a very hurtful word that stigmatizes a group of people that have more than enough to deal with. Its quite frankly abhorrent. See here (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/opinion/sunday/a-word-gone-wrong.html ) for more and I'd encourage you to think more carefully about your word choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492576) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: zippy vermilion corner you sound angry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492539) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:23 PM Author: Concupiscible Geriatric Spot Electric Furnace Holy shit. I didn't realize you were an ableist bigot. Please edit your use of the R-slur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492603) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon you can call your employment crime anything you want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492248) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: excitant balding address We're all disabled in some way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492198) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:36 PM Author: sepia slap-happy space lol affirmative action is not a "liberal" value, wtf are you talking about. didn't you take any classes on political theory at any point in your educational career?
there is no "principle" involved in affirmative action other than tribalist rent-seeking |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492312) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat and if a white man favored helping people that reminded him of himself and therefore felt he could get along with well, what would you call that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492206) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Tribalism, which is exactly the opposite or what I do when I hire Asian or African Americans, LGBTQ workers, or those with physical disabilities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492235) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat so its two wrongs make right kind of situation
why are you opposed to both of us making decisions like these based on merit? I am happy to do that and watch my thinking to make sure I am picking people for the right reasons. But if people like you are convinced that being tribal is altogether fitting and proper, then why should I? Is this the world you want? |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party No. Tribalism is a wrong. There is nothing wrong with inclusiveness - quite the opposite, it’s a virtue which promotes a harmonious and strong society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492278) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat white men picking people bc they are white men = tribalism
minority picking people bc they are minority = inclusion
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Why do you think minorities are monolithic? That’s tribal thinking. Everyone who isn’t a white male is an “ other”. A white gay person shares little in common with a straightHisoanic woman or disabled black man. We don’t view ourselves as all the same. Only tribalists like you do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492315) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat here comes the muddled ad hominems. thanks for the discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492324) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge “A white gay person shares little in common with a straightHisoanic woman or disabled black man.”
Wouldn’t it depend on the person? You sound like a racist bigot. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon there are all sorts of differences between people. if what you care about is empathy for others, why don't you advocate for diversity of thought? any two white cishet able-bodied dudes are going to be very different if selected randomly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492354) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Diversity of thought is of course valued, too, but it not the only diversity criterion of importance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492368) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:57 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon why isn't it? if the idea of diversity is to empathize with the other as much as possible, this seems like the purest way of doing it. you are probably very similar in thought to a lot of people from different races etc., so preferring them would not actually accomplish your goal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492388) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Is this a serious question? This is not a thought experiment. Diversity is about both diversity of perspective and inclusiveness. If you exclude large segments of society along very visible social lines, your diversity of thoughts argument becomes worthless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492465) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon this is not mutually exclusive. you can refuse to base preferences on social lines entirely (90's style) and pursue diversity of thought. if you care about meaningful diversity, this would be preferable, compared to basing preferences on extrinsic categories people have no control over. "perspective" is retarded if it does not refer to intellectual qualities such as values or beliefs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492528) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party That people have no control over these extrinsic factors is precisely why inclusiveness actions such categories is so important. Otherwise, any group ( usually the one in power) could exclude on the purported basis of having achieved diversity of thought, even if the group is uniform in every other sense. And since diversity of thought can’t really be quantified or readily observed. It’s a particularly convenient cloak under which to hide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492580) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:22 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon why are you assuming conspiratorial malice on the part of these groups? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492600) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon so all white companies and socities categorically cannot be strong or *harmonious*? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492298) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat *libs covering Denmark with a heavily tinted plastic bubble* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492305) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party Denmark has strong protections for female, lgbtq, disabled, and ethnic minority workers. What are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492348) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492325) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party We live in a multi/ethnic society with additional large numbers of disabled and lgbtq workers. You cannot have a harmonious society that excludes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492335) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: exciting infuriating field quadroon so would this inclusive society be stronger or more harmonious than, say, scandinavian countries pre-immigration cucking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492362) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: Nudist Shivering Reading Party That’s a ridiculous question. Even if Denmark were entirely white, it’d still value diversity of sexes, lgbtq and disabled workers. Furthermore, harmony can be achieved in a number of ways, and your insistence that monolithic societies are the only oath to harmony is infantile and frankly laughable . |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: beady-eyed bearded business firm Science doesn't agree with you:
https://darwinianreactionary.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/alienation-and-diversity/
https://darwinianreactionary.wordpress.com/2015/03/09/why-diversity-destroys-social-capital-part-1/ |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge How diverse was the team conducting this research tho? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492432) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: cracking home (bug-eyed, bug-titted Julia leading u down a subthread wasteland) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492373) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: mind-boggling medicated national really tough guy http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/39600000/Burger-King-Kids-Club-burger-king-39681565-751-517.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492629) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: walnut wonderful pisswyrm How many people do you hire/promote per year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492795) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: crawly umber mexican boiling water This has been around for years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492085) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: adventurous charcoal gas station puppy Yeah but randomly seeing it in action on a doc review just really set me off today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492092) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: Purple motley kitty cat you've had your turn white man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492096) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:22 PM Author: crawly umber mexican boiling water I once had to spend a year on a diversity committee mandated by our F100 clients. What a fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492105) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Free-loading set Actually happened: black partner got in trouble for overstating a firm’s minority equity interests. End result: no loss of business, and also not a violation of professional conduct to lie to your client to get business, either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492106) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Glassy senate keepsake machete soon life will become like that old Blues Traveler video...
where Blues Traveler is playing backstage, and then there is another more attractive band ON stage, pantomiming their playing in front of the audience. only it will be white males BACKSTAGE doing all the work, while the *DIVERSITY* theater troupe takes public credit ON STAGE. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: crawly umber mexican boiling water This already happens- see Window Dressing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492123) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:24 PM Author: cracking home Where did the AfAm mom lateral to? Same V-level, midlaw, in-house? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492115) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: adventurous charcoal gas station puppy (doobs) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492127) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:33 PM Author: painfully honest provocative rigor Welcome to 2018. Enjoy the ride! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492176) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: crusty karate property This is one of many things that makes ARE COUNTRY midlaw 180. Clients are all good ol boys who just want a country club lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492239) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Soggy Point Masturbator lol, this ends like every diversity quota. phantom minority associates being "staffed" on everything, but only billing like .5 hours for it lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492246) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: rusted aggressive hospital "sure, no problem. just sign this malpractice waiver." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492247) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: adventurous charcoal gas station puppy haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492381) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: effete appetizing theater stage mood lmao
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2789519&forum_id=2#27170020 |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 3:59 PM Author: hyperventilating pearl genital piercing mediation i dont think ive encountered a single competent WOC associate, excluding azns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492413) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: flirting halford hell I know a WOC who got staffed on a big matter that did not match her career goals at all. Over a year later she learned why and was furious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492461) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:06 PM Author: house-broken lemon potus indian lodge Hilarious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492475) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: diverse school cafeteria love of her life As in-house counsel, I definitely prefer having someone that is familiar with the culture of the country we're doing business in. It doesn't always have to be the person of the same race or ethnic group, but that tends to be the case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492493) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: effete appetizing theater stage mood Ok but that is very different and everyone would agree that there are valid business reasons for that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492515) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: diverse school cafeteria love of her life Is it very different? I think what I do sometimes gets mislabeled and falls within the OP's gripe.
With that being said, I think my company's law dept is probably the most diverse group I've worked in. I can see some of them caring about it or some partner thinking it'd be good to increase their diversity in an attempt to curry favor with the in-house atty. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: adventurous charcoal gas station puppy No I think what you describe is very different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492581) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:20 PM Author: diverse school cafeteria love of her life welp...there you go. I don't really care who works on my deals other than in certain cases like LatAm deals. But, tbh, I'd probably give more work to a d00der that I can relate with than someone that's just a bot. I've definitely handed stuff over to a hispanic bro because he was low on hours. But, I've never kicked anyone off a deal other than for padding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492588) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:25 PM Author: Canary supple volcanic crater forum What you are describing is "adding value" by adding someone familiar with another country. That person incidentally then makes the team "more diverse." It has nothing to do with diversity for diversity's sake alone, which is the OP's gripe.
Edit: you significantly added to your post, but I guess my point still stands. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: diverse school cafeteria love of her life That's fine. Just think that my request tends to lead to adding diversity for diversity's sake. I think it's an indirect result, but obviously we can disagree. I have no scientific evidence other than the fact that almost every other atty I interact with for NAM deals is now Hispanic or in the case of certain EMEA deals Arab bros. These are for domestic deals so UK or USA-deal. I guess they just noticed me feeding these bros more work than usual.
Edit: Should add that white d00ds never ask for more work. Not sure why. They just do the assignment and that's it. The other dudes tend to stay on the line and chat about personal shit. That's usually when they talk about trying to catch up on hours, etc. |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: indigo disgusting community account Can't be tricked into this stuff if your firm isn't diverse to begin with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492566) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: Dun Startled Headpube lol at Julia "hiring" anybody. She's a stripper turned podcaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492717) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:53 PM Author: walnut wonderful pisswyrm TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492806) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: poppy stimulating pit sneaky criminal lol at Julia itt. Just hilarious to think factors other than competence and attention to detail are relevant to having some second-year do secretary's certificates, resolutions, and disclosure schedules about a retail chain or bank or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492728) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: walnut wonderful pisswyrm Strict client rules like that are dumb, but I do find it is valuable to have a team with both men and women on it and you don't want it to be all white or all male if you are going to court. Like 75% of the judges I've had in my career are female. And probably 40% of clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3904596&forum_id=2#35492822) |