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HELD: Clicking "Buy It Now" on eBay forms a binding contract.

"We affirm the trial court’s finding that a valid contr...
brilliant marvelous center karate
  03/08/18
I would think the Ebay T&Cs should govern. Is this a shi...
Lascivious Saffron Rehab Giraffe
  03/08/18
(James C. McReynolds)
Beady-eyed Silver Kitty
  03/08/18
That's discussed, too.
brilliant marvelous center karate
  03/08/18
(guy who didnt read the case)
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
cliffs?
Big Philosopher-king
  03/08/18
D offered diamond ring on ebay for 100K. P bought the ring u...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Only under Jewish law was the 1st buyer harmed to the point ...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
spin, ratfucks
beta goal in life
  03/08/18
cr, there's a gemara about a guy who agreed to sell his ox t...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
tortious interference? i just skimmed, but i see the third ...
aromatic yellow nowag
  03/08/18
Tortious interference, pretty clearly since second buyer kne...
grizzly hospital
  03/09/18
...
Khaki startling market
  03/08/18
wtf why did the actual buyer pay 60k to the plaintiff? &g...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
was there some kind of BS tortious interference claim? payin...
Ultramarine Degenerate
  03/08/18
3rd party knew there was a contract and offered extra to get...
Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage
  03/08/18
right, now i see: >>Even though Julie’s original eB...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Even if the 2nd buyer knew, his interference still had to be...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
yeah, it's odd.
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
States have wildly different standards for what constitutes ...
stirring stubborn sandwich
  03/08/18
yeah, i'd like to know the specifics of that claim but it's ...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Maybe he keeps the ring?
Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage
  03/08/18
maybe he was happy to pay 60k and eliminate the risk of his ...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
I'm going to assume there was a tortious interference claim.
Misunderstood property volcanic crater
  03/08/18
woah, a classic expectation interest case >>To calc...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
was this CUNT selling her engagement ring?
mint senate
  03/08/18
yes. they had a prenup but the ring wasn't part of it, appar...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
180 the bitch got got- lost the ring and lost money the law...
mind-boggling canary milk
  03/08/18
180. she sold the ring for 150k, and has to pay P back 135k....
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
she's down total with legal fees, right? yooooooj
mind-boggling canary milk
  03/08/18
oh right. wonder if P's attorney took the case on conting...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
American rule, moshe.
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
Julie Rohr: https://storage.googleapis.com/idx-acnt-gs.ihous...
Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage
  03/08/18
https://www.facebook.com/julie.rohr
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
is that true?
adventurous carnelian roommate gas station
  03/08/18
looks like it
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
spin, ratfucks
beta goal in life
  03/08/18
...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
...
mind-boggling canary milk
  03/08/18
Would have expected a nubile 20-something Maxim model blonde...
vigorous institution party of the first part
  03/08/18
a very DBG thread. so, this chick is selling off her enga...
embarrassed to the bone excitant piazza
  03/08/18
DBG thread? i'm not even the OP your poast is missing a w...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
still a very DBG thread. fixed. thansk.
embarrassed to the bone excitant piazza
  03/08/18
what's DBG about it? aspie legal case discussion? e-rings? e...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
all the above.
embarrassed to the bone excitant piazza
  03/08/18
...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
seems right but how tf did he weasel a $60K settlement out o...
adventurous carnelian roommate gas station
  03/08/18
discussed above -- http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Ok my question is how the defendant got a $60k set off from ...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
cq. is the collateral source rule applicable in breach of co...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
I wouldn't see why not.
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
arent the 3rd party buyer and D joint tortfeasors? does the ...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
If they are joint tortfeasors the result is correct, but I a...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
i tend to agreee.... we need some AZ law mastermen here
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Summon: kirbymo.
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
I don't know the specific answer here. But I encountered the...
brilliant marvelous center karate
  03/09/18
I've got some Wayne State bros who might be able to help.
Red sickened gunner
  03/09/18
This is a contract case. Neither party is a tortfeasor. In c...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
jfc stfu
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
(Posner blasting through standards of review, screaming, &qu...
brilliant marvelous center karate
  03/09/18
This is like the classic definition of efficient breach. $35...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
that's not how efficient breach works
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
(80 iq guy) The concept of efficient breach doesn't mean ...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
...
Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage
  03/08/18
No shit. Its efficient breach. Go into the market and buy an...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
Maybe buyers were drooling over the offer because she wasn't...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
cr. our resident tulane alum is a moron
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
That's why he is a compliance goon.
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
Right, clearly she wasnt -- hence why she ended up flipping ...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
I guess she should have hired a better expert.
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
There probably was no witness at all. TTT shitlawyers will w...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
P had an expert witness, you moron. at tulane, did they not ...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
You are profoundly reading comp challenged. Its clear as day...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
(guy who doesnt hire experts when litigating in front of gor...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Why would you need experts at the appellate level? Retarded ...
Ruby motley dilemma
  03/08/18
(smart Jewish lawyer who doesn't even get writs of mandamus ...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
Lmao. I didn't even click the link and I know more than you.
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
Defendant had an expert. He was instructed not to appraise t...
buff theater jew
  03/08/18
ljl they couldnt find a single expert to lie and say the rin...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
most experts witnesses have way too much integrity to just w...
aromatic yellow nowag
  03/08/18
it doesnt even have to be a professional expert witness who ...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
i was actually just flaming. experts are usually total whor...
aromatic yellow nowag
  03/08/18
Lots of experts are retarded. That's why litigation can be a...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
most of the guys you deal with in biglaw are quite sharp. th...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
I litigate broken semi truck cases and my experts are retard...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
they're not *total* whores. most of the top guys do want to ...
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
...
Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage
  03/08/18
Lmao
grizzly hospital
  03/09/18
take this shit back to 1L Contracts
Rebellious Bonkers Tattoo
  03/08/18
There are business torts and 3rd party defendants here too.
Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage
  03/08/18
add this thread to the canon of ARE REPTILE stupidity
Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler
  03/08/18
...
Passionate boiling water
  03/08/18
The breach wasn’t efficient after all
grizzly hospital
  03/09/18
This really blew up after I left.
brilliant marvelous center karate
  03/09/18


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Date: March 8th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: brilliant marvelous center karate

"We affirm the trial court’s finding that a valid contract existed when Julie offered her diamond ring on eBay with the option for users to “Buy It Now” and Armiros accepted the offer by clicking the “Buy It Now” button."

http://www.azcourts.gov/Portals/0/OpinionFiles/Div1/2018/1%20CA-CV%2016-0755.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563467)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Lascivious Saffron Rehab Giraffe

I would think the Ebay T&Cs should govern. Is this a shitlib judge?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563478)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Silver Kitty

(James C. McReynolds)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563498)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: brilliant marvelous center karate

That's discussed, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563499)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

(guy who didnt read the case)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563541)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Big Philosopher-king

cliffs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563546)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

D offered diamond ring on ebay for 100K. P bought the ring using buy it now for 100K. P and D were supposed to meet up to do the deal. in the meantime, 3rd party buyer emailed D and offered her 150K for the ring. D sold the ring to the 3rd party buyer for 150K and reneged on the deal with P.

court held that D breached a binding contract to sell the ring to P. damages were expectation interest / benefit of the bargain. court heard expert testimony and found the ring valued a 350K, and awarded a shitload of money to P.

what i dont get: P also sued the 3rd party buyer and settled with him for 60k. i dont get why the 3rd party buyer is liable for anything. but i just skimmed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563608)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Only under Jewish law was the 1st buyer harmed to the point on recovering thousands of dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564789)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: beta goal in life

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564798)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

cr, there's a gemara about a guy who agreed to sell his ox to another guy for 4 sheep and then another guy came along and offered 6 sheep for the ox....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564831)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:26 PM
Author: aromatic yellow nowag

tortious interference? i just skimmed, but i see the third party encouraged canceling the contract. not sure how that interference is tortious but maybe it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565423)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: grizzly hospital

Tortious interference, pretty clearly since second buyer knew it had been sold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35569235)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Khaki startling market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563490)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

wtf why did the actual buyer pay 60k to the plaintiff?

>>Evangelos also named as a defendant the

other buyer who had purchased the ring, but the buyer was dismissed as a

party and subsequently settled by paying Evangelos $60,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563500)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Ultramarine Degenerate

was there some kind of BS tortious interference claim? paying 60k to get plaintiff to fuck off was probably worth more than the trouble of litigating this to someone willing to pay 150k for a ring off ebay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563663)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage

3rd party knew there was a contract and offered extra to get defendant to welch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563680)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

right, now i see:

>>Even though Julie’s original eBay listing had closed, she

received an email later that evening from another eBay user offering

$150,000 for the ring. Julie responded that she believed she had already sold

the ring. The eBay user told Julie that he would make a deposit on the ring

and that his $150,000 offer was “well worth canceling the deal with

[Evangelos].”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563695)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Even if the 2nd buyer knew, his interference still had to be unjustified. Should have moved for SJ on day privilege to compete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564802)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

yeah, it's odd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564837)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: stirring stubborn sandwich

States have wildly different standards for what constitutes "wrongful" or "tortious" or "commercially impermissible" conduct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35566360)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

yeah, i'd like to know the specifics of that claim but it's not mentioned.

if he got ring that the court valued at 350k+ for only 150k, maybe he was happy to pay $60k to get the P to fuck off. but that's still a lot of money to pay. how much could this suit cost to litigate? it was a one day bench trial.

wonder if there's more to the story.

EDIT: see above. now i see he tried to bust up the deal. still, is that tortious interference under AZ law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563682)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage

Maybe he keeps the ring?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563703)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

maybe he was happy to pay 60k and eliminate the risk of his sale being declared void or to be jointly liable P's expectation interest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563712)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Misunderstood property volcanic crater

I'm going to assume there was a tortious interference claim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565161)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

woah, a classic expectation interest case

>>To calculate the ring’s market value, the court started with the

$389,000 listing price and reduced it 25% based on Julie’s expert’s Rapnet

report, resulting in a $291,750 market value. It further found that the

platinum setting and smaller diamonds had a $3,500 value and therefore

the ring’s total value at the time Julie breached was $295,250. The court then

subtracted the $60,000 Evangelos received from the other buyer and the

$100,000 Evangelos would have had to pay to purchase the ring, thereby

resulting in damages of $135,250.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563530)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: mint senate

was this CUNT selling her engagement ring?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563635)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

yes. they had a prenup but the ring wasn't part of it, apparently. 10.7ct diamond ring. wonder what this cunt did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563719)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: mind-boggling canary milk

180 the bitch got got- lost the ring and lost money

the law worked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564825)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

180. she sold the ring for 150k, and has to pay P back 135k. plus she probably had to pay ebay commissions on the 150k. so basically she's lost the ring and got nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564841)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:02 PM
Author: mind-boggling canary milk

she's down total with legal fees, right?

yooooooj

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564846)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

oh right.

wonder if P's attorney took the case on contingency.

judge wouldnt give P attorney's fees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564859)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

American rule, moshe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564882)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage

Julie Rohr: https://storage.googleapis.com/idx-acnt-gs.ihouseprd.com/AR688225/site/agent_photo_120_1445803611.jpg

She works in real estate, where it is OK to cancel a land-sale contract if someone offers you more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563762)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

https://www.facebook.com/julie.rohr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563767)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: adventurous carnelian roommate gas station

is that true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563876)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

looks like it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563896)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: beta goal in life

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564779)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:58 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564821)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling canary milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564950)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: vigorous institution party of the first part

Would have expected a nubile 20-something Maxim model blonde with bolt ons given the ring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564961)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone excitant piazza

a very DBG thread.

so, this chick is selling off her engagement ring and is still married to the guy?

what a cuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563788)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

DBG thread? i'm not even the OP

your poast is missing a word. you mean married? they're divorcing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563794)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone excitant piazza

still a very DBG thread.

fixed. thansk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563803)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

what's DBG about it? aspie legal case discussion? e-rings? ebay scams? all the above?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563813)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone excitant piazza

all the above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563907)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564700)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: adventurous carnelian roommate gas station

seems right but how tf did he weasel a $60K settlement out of the other buyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563863)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

discussed above -- http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&mc=25&forum_id=2#35563500



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35563872)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Ok my question is how the defendant got a $60k set off from the previous settlement. Shouldn't dat collateral source rule gape that argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564879)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:14 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

cq. is the collateral source rule applicable in breach of contract?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35564944)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

I wouldn't see why not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565118)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

arent the 3rd party buyer and D joint tortfeasors? does the collateral source rule come into play then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565153)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

If they are joint tortfeasors the result is correct, but I assume the plaintiff recovered against the seller based on breach of contract. I don't think you can intentionally interfere with your own contract.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565174)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

i tend to agreee.... we need some AZ law mastermen here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565188)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Summon: kirbymo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565196)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 9:40 PM
Author: brilliant marvelous center karate

I don't know the specific answer here. But I encountered the issue in a somewhat different context.

I'd start with John Munic Enters. v. Laos, 235 Ariz. 12 (Ct. App. 2014).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35573208)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Red sickened gunner

I've got some Wayne State bros who might be able to help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35569444)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

This is a contract case. Neither party is a tortfeasor. In contract you get your economic damages. Several and joint and several and all the rest of that jazz dont apply. The logic that assigns 350k in expectancy damages is what's fucked. Diamonds are like bricks. They are a commodity good. Go into the market and buy another one. The market is efficient. There shoudnt be more than a token difference in price and your damages are that token amount. Theres no fucking way there was a 350k gap in price.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565207)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

jfc stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565223)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: brilliant marvelous center karate

(Posner blasting through standards of review, screaming, "The market is efficient!")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35573216)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

This is like the classic definition of efficient breach. $350k dollars in expectation damages my asshole. Diamonds are commodity products. Who was the other guys witness? A drooling retard? This judge is a real piece of work....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565152)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

that's not how efficient breach works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565180)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

(80 iq guy)

The concept of efficient breach doesn't mean the seller isn't on the hook for expectancy damages. In fact, it means the opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565192)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565198)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

No shit. Its efficient breach. Go into the market and buy another 100k ring. There is no fucking way there was a $350k swing in diamond prices. Whoever tossed out that $350k figure is talking out their ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565217)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Maybe buyers were drooling over the offer because she wasn't asking enough. Hmmmm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565228)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

cr. our resident tulane alum is a moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565235)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

That's why he is a compliance goon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565274)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

Right, clearly she wasnt -- hence why she ended up flipping it for $150k and not 100. But 350k? Please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565259)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

I guess she should have hired a better expert.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565268)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565304)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:10 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

There probably was no witness at all. TTT shitlawyers will walk into trials like this without a witness on the reg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565308)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

P had an expert witness, you moron. at tulane, did they not teach you how to read cases?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565313)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

You are profoundly reading comp challenged. Its clear as day Im talking about the D. Go fuck yourself to death already. You either intentionally misread my first post and every post there after or just need your hand held like a tard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565325)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:17 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

(guy who doesnt hire experts when litigating in front of gorsuch)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565357)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:19 PM
Author: Ruby motley dilemma

Why would you need experts at the appellate level? Retarded much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565365)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

(smart Jewish lawyer who doesn't even get writs of mandamus and prohibition)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565393)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:24 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565404)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Lmao. I didn't even click the link and I know more than you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565372)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: buff theater jew

Defendant had an expert. He was instructed not to appraise the Diamond (presumptively because he would then have to say it was worth 300,000) and instead just said that the transaction price must be correct.

¶11 The court then heard evidence from Julie’s gemologist. He testified that he had not been asked to determine the ring’s market value. He stated that “Rapnet may be a shadow of the market. It is not the actual market.” He further testified that market value should be determined by actual transactions and not asking prices—like those on Rapnet. The expert conceded that the diamond listed on Rapnet for $389,000 was the same diamond in question, albeit slightly smaller. Although the expert did not opine on the ring’s market value, he did provide a report on two-carat diamonds listed on Rapnet to show that prices varied up to 25%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565440)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:30 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

ljl they couldnt find a single expert to lie and say the ring was worth 200k"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565451)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:31 PM
Author: aromatic yellow nowag

most experts witnesses have way too much integrity to just work backwards from whatever the result the firm that hires him wants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565456)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

it doesnt even have to be a professional expert witness who has a rep to protect. you could just hire some random kike who has a diamond biz and he can say whatever you want him to say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565489)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: aromatic yellow nowag

i was actually just flaming. experts are usually total whores (except for prima donna harvard professors who are usually useless to your case)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565499)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

Lots of experts are retarded. That's why litigation can be a crap shoot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565527)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

most of the guys you deal with in biglaw are quite sharp. the econ/financial guys know their shit. and any expert in a patent law case is probably a 130 iq stem prof.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565549)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water

I litigate broken semi truck cases and my experts are retarded mechanics. Fml.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565570)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

they're not *total* whores. most of the top guys do want to maintain some amount of credibility so they dont disgrace themselves and become untouchable in future cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565536)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565564)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: grizzly hospital

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35569346)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: Rebellious Bonkers Tattoo

take this shit back to 1L Contracts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565194)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Wonderful buck-toothed theater stage

There are business torts and 3rd party defendants here too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565202)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: Cocky angry meetinghouse deer antler

add this thread to the canon of ARE REPTILE stupidity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565584)



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Date: March 8th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Passionate boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35565841)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: grizzly hospital

The breach wasn’t efficient after all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35569391)



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Date: March 9th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: brilliant marvelous center karate

This really blew up after I left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3913380&forum_id=2#35573163)