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John Stuart Mill on capital punishment:
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:29 PM Author: cobalt cumskin When there has been brought home to any one, by conclusive evidence, the greatest crime known to the law; and when the attendant circumstances suggest no palliation of the guilt, no hope that the culprit may even yet not be unworthy to live among mankind, nothing to make it probable that the crime was an exception to his general character rather than a consequence of it, then I confess it appears to me that to deprive the criminal of the life of which he has proved himself to be unworthy--solemnly to blot him out from the fellowship of mankind and from the catalogue of the living--is the most appropriate as it is certainly the most impressive, mode in which society can attach to so great a crime the penal consequences which for the security of life it is indispensable to annex to it. I defend this penalty, when confined to atrocious cases, on the very ground on which it is commonly attacked--on that of humanity to the criminal; as beyond comparison the least cruel mode in which it is possible adequately to deter from the crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635120) |
Date: March 18th, 2018 11:31 PM Author: fishy school incomprehensible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635134) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Swashbuckling Bearded Market 105 IQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635146) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:33 PM Author: Bronze contagious locus basically he's saying if you really really really do bad shit and its clear your a bad egg and were always really bad you should be killed due to being a living contemptuous insult to what it means to be human in civil society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635154) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:57 PM Author: Aquamarine Vivacious Half-breed Gay Wizard dude i SKIMMED it and understood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635313) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:24 AM Author: Fear-inspiring chest-beating spot useless brakes The key is the last sentence, where Mill describes death as "the least cruel mode in which it is possible adequately to deter from the crime." He is speaking here of specific deterrence.
What is interesting is Mill's apparent belief that it is more humane to execute certain criminals than to incapacitate them in other ways--for example, by permanent imprisonment.
What is unclear from this passage is whether Mill felt that life imprisonment is per se crueler than execution or, instead, that it was crueler given the prison conditions prevalent at that time. It is possible that improved prison conditions, coupled with advances in prison security--which make it all but impossible that a prisoner can ever commit additional harm--would change Mill's view. He was a utilitarian after all. |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:43 AM Author: Federal church stock car Or even if life imprisonment is crueler for some, but not for others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35636409) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:37 PM Author: razzmatazz chartreuse trust fund Commonplace executions weeded psychopaths out of the gene pool and allowed cooperative puppies to make cool shit without wolves around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635177) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:36 AM Author: Fear-inspiring chest-beating spot useless brakes How it actually worked: The wolves at the top used commonplace executions to strike terror into any puppies who dared to even think of resisting the wolves' expropriation of the cool shit that they (the puppies) made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635496) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:01 AM Author: razzmatazz chartreuse trust fund There’s evidence that the opposite was the main trend for humans: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how-humans-maybe-domesticated-themselves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35636294) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:29 AM Author: Fear-inspiring chest-beating spot useless brakes Talk about sophistry.
Nothing in that article even remotely suggests that executions served as the "weeding out" mechanism. In fact, the article's hypothesis that the weeding-out occurred sometime in the last 200,000 years--long before the advent of agriculture--suggests the contrary. Hunter-gatherers simply ostracized overly aggressive individuals. Once civilizations developed, individuals with psychopathic traits AND relative social power (e.g., overly aggressive members of a resource-advantaged clan) rose to the top of society through force (or threat thereof). Once in power, the psychopathic genes enabled succeeding generations of the ruling clan to retain power, eventually through the use of systematic executions.
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 AM Author: Nubile goyim Aka how it still works today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35636452) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:02 AM Author: maize feces space "you're going to miss us when we're gone" *fade into 2018 sweden* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635627) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:43 PM Author: Internet-worthy filthy place of business giraffe “In the whole vast dome of living nature there reigns an open violence. A kind of prescriptive fury which arms all the creatures to their common doom: as soon as you leave the inanimate kingdom you find the decree of violent death inscribed on the very frontiers of life. You feel it already in the vegetable kingdom: from the great catalpa to the humblest herb, how many plants die and how many are killed; but, from the moment you enter the animal kingdom, this law is suddenly in the most dreadful evidence. A Power, a violence, at once hidden and palpable... has in each species appointed a certain number of animals to devour the others... And who [in this general carnage] exterminates him who will exterminate all others? Himself. It is man who is charged with the slaughter of man... The whole earth, perpetually steeped in blood, is nothing but a vast altar upon which all that is living must be sacrificed without end, without measure, without pause, until the consummation of things, until evil is extinct, until the death of death.” -- Joseph de Maistre |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 11:44 PM Author: Indecent garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635230) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:26 AM Author: Soggy property deer antler this is sophistry that uses clumsy, strange prose and a million too many words to make a simple point. i hate philosophy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635460) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:39 AM Author: Excitant impressive windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635503) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:56 AM Author: Crimson sticky ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635595) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:59 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle crusty partner skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35635607) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 AM Author: Nubile goyim I sometimes wonder if the predominantly American 20th century journalistic style will be thought of by future generations as a critical inflection point in human development. It’s clear a huge part of how writing worked from Gutenberg until roughly H.L. Mencken centered on rich fags making themselves feel important by cluttering their prose with their underformed tangents of thought and vocabulary tests for the reader. And the rich fags who read it would feel smart because they could follow along with the meandering line of thinking. Then the U.S. media industrial complex comes along and says nope. Make your writing as clear as possible, and if your underlying logic is any good it will catch on and influence lots of other people. As we become more AI/cyborg infused and dependent I feel like the machines will look back at this time like it was a huge leap forward in OS design for human communications. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922528&forum_id=2#35636484) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 AM Author: boyish fighting principal's office goal in life alternatively, make dan snyder own the local football team. that will cause enormous amounts of pain and misery in the capital.
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