https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/tempe/tempe-police-investigating-self-driving-uber-car-involved-in-crash-overnight

Can't use audio right now, so I'm not sure what's going on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35638532)

but 49 year old homeless woman isn't too common

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35638784)

be prevalent almost everywhere? yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639213)

This is what's going to happen. If you've ever seen a machine learning algorithm in action, this isn't surprising at all. Basically, they'll behave as expected some well known percentage of the time. But when they don't, the result will not be just a slight deviation from the normal algorithm, but a very unexpected one.

So we will have overall a much smaller number of deaths caused by self driving cars, but ones that do happen will be completely unexpected and scary and shitty. You can't really get away from this without putting these cars on rails.

Moreover, the human brain won't like processing these freak accidents. People die in car crashes every damn day. But we have become really accustomed to rationalizing that: "they were struck by a drunk driver", "they were texting", "they didn't see the red light", etc. These are "normal" reasons for bad accidents and we can not only rationalize them, but also rationalize how it wouldn't happen to us: "I don't drive near colleges where young kids are likely to drive drunk", "I don't text (much) while I drive", "I pay attention".

But these algorithms will not fail like that. Each accident will be unique and weird and scary. I won't be surprised if someone at some point wears a stripy outfit, and the car thinks they are a part of the road, and tries to explicitly chase them down until they are under the wheels. Or if the car suddenly decides that the road continues at a 90 degree angle off a bridge. Or that the splashes from a puddle in front is actually an oncoming car and it must swerve into the school kids crossing the perpendicular road. It'll always be tragic, unpredictable and one-off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639178)

Wonder what Uber's liability will be. Guess it could set the precedent for self driving car liability

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639265)

.000001% fatalities vs. 50%?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639245)

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe-breaking/2018/06/21/uber-self-driving-car-crash-tempe-police-elaine-herzberg/724344002/

The driver behind the wheel of an autonomous Uber vehicle that fatally struck a woman in Tempe in March was watching "The Voice" via a streaming service in the minutes leading up to the crash, a police report says.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#36291502)