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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
Stirring aggressive theatre
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
Mischievous partner boiling water
  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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Brindle Indecent Range
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orange misanthropic pit potus
  05/14/18
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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orange misanthropic pit potus
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cowardly parlor deer antler
  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
orange misanthropic pit potus
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
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Boyish sex offender
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Cheese-eating Startled Site Alpha
  03/19/18
Is this flame
wine associate rehab
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
Fighting den fanboi
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
fragrant sexy temple psychic
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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  03/21/18
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awkward shrine
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
federal office shitlib
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Cerebral business firm milk
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
Cocky senate
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Cerebral business firm milk
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
Cocky senate
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Marvelous carnelian church building
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
orange misanthropic pit potus
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
Razzle-dazzle Adulterous Pistol
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
wine associate rehab
  03/19/18
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orange misanthropic pit potus
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
Stirring aggressive theatre
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
Well-lubricated principal's office
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
Stirring aggressive theatre
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Cerebral business firm milk
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
Stirring aggressive theatre
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Marvelous carnelian church building
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
awkward shrine
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
Marvelous carnelian church building
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
awkward shrine
  03/19/18
...
Marvelous carnelian church building
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
Razzle-dazzle Adulterous Pistol
  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
Well-lubricated principal's office
  03/19/18
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Marvelous carnelian church building
  03/19/18
nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
Marvelous carnelian church building
  03/19/18
*BEEP BEEP BEEP*
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  03/19/18
killself
diverse market messiness
  03/20/18
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Sapphire stubborn plaza
  03/20/18
transhyphenist non bigot here
Thriller fat ankles
  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
turquoise bawdyhouse french chef
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
Shimmering Tantric Double Fault
  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
Cocky senate
  05/12/18
Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell...
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  05/14/18


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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Stirring aggressive theatre

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Mischievous partner boiling water

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: orange misanthropic pit potus

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Metal liquid oxygen dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645246)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Brindle Indecent Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: orange misanthropic pit potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050284)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: lemon forum roommate

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: orange misanthropic pit potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: cowardly parlor deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: orange misanthropic pit potus

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: awkward shrine

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Boyish sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645264)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: maize black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641354)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: curious scourge upon the earth locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641366)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Boyish sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641386)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Startled Site Alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: wine associate rehab

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Fighting den fanboi

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: fragrant sexy temple psychic

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: irradiated dilemma elastic band

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: awkward shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: federal office shitlib

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Cocky senate

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Cocky senate

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Marvelous carnelian church building

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: orange misanthropic pit potus

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Adulterous Pistol

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: wine associate rehab

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: orange misanthropic pit potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Stirring aggressive theatre

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Well-lubricated principal's office

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Stirring aggressive theatre

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm milk

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Stirring aggressive theatre

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Marvelous carnelian church building

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: awkward shrine

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Marvelous carnelian church building

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: awkward shrine

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Marvelous carnelian church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Adulterous Pistol

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Well-lubricated principal's office

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Marvelous carnelian church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Marvelous carnelian church building

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: alcoholic resort

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: diverse market messiness

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Sapphire stubborn plaza

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Thriller fat ankles

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: turquoise bawdyhouse french chef

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Shimmering Tantric Double Fault

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Cocky senate

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Dashing Juggernaut Mood

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050530)