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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday

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jade telephone
  03/21/18
I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fair...
dun plaza background story
  03/21/18
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painfully honest crystalline den tattoo
  03/21/18
Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first...
ocher stain
  03/21/18
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aqua racy meetinghouse
  03/21/18
Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she ...
Exhilarant cumskin
  03/21/18
did her own research as far as I can tell
jade telephone
  03/21/18
Ends justify the means with libs They will never criticiz...
Mauve ratface
  03/21/18
Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit...
cracking aggressive public bath
  03/21/18
But Posner is a POS judge.
Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency
  03/21/18
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violent parlour internal respiration
  03/21/18
While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn...
Claret cerebral roommate
  03/21/18
Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances tho...
cracking aggressive public bath
  03/21/18
I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's resea...
Claret cerebral roommate
  03/21/18
There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at...
Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency
  03/21/18
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Charcoal bipolar hospital immigrant
  10/07/21
Both are wrong.
impertinent son of senegal
  03/21/18
there was a case about how long it took union members to put...
Hilarious travel guidebook
  03/22/18
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Vigorous native liquid oxygen
  03/22/18
#MeTwink
Hilarious travel guidebook
  03/22/18
fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical stan...
Beady-eyed headpube toaster
  03/22/18
almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his publi...
Hilarious travel guidebook
  03/22/18
lol
fantasy-prone jew
  03/22/18
Going outside the record is some bullshit.
Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency
  03/21/18
Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social scie...
Claret cerebral roommate
  03/21/18
I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua spo...
Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency
  03/21/18
Thugs in black robes, etc.
impertinent son of senegal
  03/21/18
http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12...
Hilarious travel guidebook
  03/22/18
Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina
orchid glittery school cafeteria
  03/21/18
If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the r...
Nubile marvelous electric furnace
  03/22/18
oh what an exemplary. such anathema.
Big Step-uncle's House Organic Girlfriend
  03/21/18
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Duck-like Brunch
  03/21/18
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Vigorous native liquid oxygen
  03/21/18
Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an...
Cerise Wild Mood
  03/21/18
Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on t...
Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency
  03/21/18
More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to ...
Cerise Wild Mood
  03/21/18
Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual disposi...
Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency
  03/21/18
Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional ruli...
Cerise Wild Mood
  03/21/18
You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rule...
impertinent son of senegal
  03/21/18
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Hilarious travel guidebook
  03/22/18
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emerald center fanboi
  03/21/18
I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstr...
seedy jet-lagged toilet seat
  03/21/18
PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct No...
dun plaza background story
  03/21/18
Lmao
aqua racy meetinghouse
  03/21/18
Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS ...
diverse reading party
  03/21/18
Thomas, J., laying down the law: https://www.youtube.com/...
violent parlour internal respiration
  03/21/18
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ocher stain
  03/22/18
Pure pwnage by Kennedy.
impertinent son of senegal
  03/21/18
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  10/07/21


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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: jade telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: dun plaza background story

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655208)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: painfully honest crystalline den tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: ocher stain

Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655756)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: aqua racy meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Exhilarant cumskin

Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: jade telephone

did her own research as far as I can tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Mauve ratface

Ends justify the means with libs

They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655273)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: cracking aggressive public bath

Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655583)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency

But Posner is a POS judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: violent parlour internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Claret cerebral roommate

While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: cracking aggressive public bath

Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Claret cerebral roommate

I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency

There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Charcoal bipolar hospital immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: impertinent son of senegal

Both are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Hilarious travel guidebook

there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Vigorous native liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Hilarious travel guidebook

#MeTwink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Beady-eyed headpube toaster

fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Hilarious travel guidebook

almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.

also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660515)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: fantasy-prone jew

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency

Going outside the record is some bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Claret cerebral roommate

Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency

I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: impertinent son of senegal

Thugs in black robes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: Hilarious travel guidebook

http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf

Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017

Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet

Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660148)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: orchid glittery school cafeteria

Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Nubile marvelous electric furnace

If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Big Step-uncle's House Organic Girlfriend

oh what an exemplary. such anathema.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: Duck-like Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: Vigorous native liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Cerise Wild Mood

Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency

Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Cerise Wild Mood

More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Drab cruise ship international law enforcement agency

Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Cerise Wild Mood

Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."

The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35656173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: impertinent son of senegal

You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Hilarious travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: emerald center fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: seedy jet-lagged toilet seat

I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: dun plaza background story

PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: aqua racy meetinghouse

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: diverse reading party

Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655805)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: violent parlour internal respiration

Thomas, J., laying down the law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: ocher stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: impertinent son of senegal

Pure pwnage by Kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: sickened red antidepressant drug bbw



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