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Some good new Sotomayor transcript gems from yesterday

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blathering spruce heaven
  03/21/18
I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fairly sophisticated I'm fair...
adulterous misunderstood shitlib
  03/21/18
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lake national
  03/21/18
Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first...
Brass trailer park candlestick maker
  03/21/18
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arousing grizzly marketing idea
  03/21/18
Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she ...
Frisky Indigo Nibblets Hospital
  03/21/18
did her own research as far as I can tell
blathering spruce heaven
  03/21/18
Ends justify the means with libs They will never criticiz...
Duck-like spectacular volcanic crater
  03/21/18
Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit...
flushed motley brunch
  03/21/18
But Posner is a POS judge.
vibrant well-lubricated tank
  03/21/18
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Lavender Learning Disabled Locale
  03/21/18
While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn...
Thirsty antidepressant drug temple
  03/21/18
Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances tho...
flushed motley brunch
  03/21/18
I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's resea...
Thirsty antidepressant drug temple
  03/21/18
There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at...
vibrant well-lubricated tank
  03/21/18
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soul-stirring territorial faggot firefighter gas station
  10/07/21
Both are wrong.
claret titillating business firm
  03/21/18
there was a case about how long it took union members to put...
Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king
  03/22/18
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french confused nowag
  03/22/18
#MeTwink
Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king
  03/22/18
fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical stan...
Violent messiness
  03/22/18
almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his publi...
Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king
  03/22/18
lol
Saffron racy shrine
  03/22/18
Going outside the record is some bullshit.
vibrant well-lubricated tank
  03/21/18
Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social scie...
Thirsty antidepressant drug temple
  03/21/18
I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua spo...
vibrant well-lubricated tank
  03/21/18
Thugs in black robes, etc.
claret titillating business firm
  03/21/18
http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12...
Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king
  03/22/18
Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina
Avocado Hateful Hell Partner
  03/21/18
If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the r...
mildly autistic casino
  03/22/18
oh what an exemplary. such anathema.
Canary dashing associate toaster
  03/21/18
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idiotic lettuce lay
  03/21/18
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french confused nowag
  03/21/18
Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an...
hairraiser clear national security agency
  03/21/18
Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on t...
vibrant well-lubricated tank
  03/21/18
More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to ...
hairraiser clear national security agency
  03/21/18
Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual disposi...
vibrant well-lubricated tank
  03/21/18
Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional ruli...
hairraiser clear national security agency
  03/21/18
You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rule...
claret titillating business firm
  03/21/18
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Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king
  03/22/18
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twinkling razzmatazz fanboi
  03/21/18
I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstr...
Bateful station fortuitous meteor
  03/21/18
PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct No...
adulterous misunderstood shitlib
  03/21/18
Lmao
arousing grizzly marketing idea
  03/21/18
Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS ...
ultramarine crackhouse circlehead
  03/21/18
Thomas, J., laying down the law: https://www.youtube.com/...
Lavender Learning Disabled Locale
  03/21/18
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Brass trailer park candlestick maker
  03/22/18
Pure pwnage by Kennedy.
claret titillating business firm
  03/21/18
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laughsome sooty coffee pot
  10/07/21


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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: blathering spruce heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655201)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: adulterous misunderstood shitlib

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

I'm fairly sophisticated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655208)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: lake national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655215)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Brass trailer park candlestick maker

Read that as "It's fairly sophisticated" the first time

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655756)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: arousing grizzly marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655795)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: Frisky Indigo Nibblets Hospital

Was this part of the record or, as Kennedy implied, did she do her own research? JFC libs explain yourselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655225)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: blathering spruce heaven

did her own research as far as I can tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655231)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Duck-like spectacular volcanic crater

Ends justify the means with libs

They will never criticize her as long as she’s a safe lefty vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655273)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: flushed motley brunch

Not to defend TWL, but appellate judges do this kind of shit all the time. Including reptiles, including at SCOTUS. Amicus briefs exist to give the Court a citable source for claims well outside the record even though there is no check on those briefs' accuracy. At the COA level, Posner actively advocated for judges doing their own factual research.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655583)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: vibrant well-lubricated tank

But Posner is a POS judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655688)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Lavender Learning Disabled Locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655790)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Thirsty antidepressant drug temple

While it is true judges frequently break the rules, it doesn't make me feel better about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655702)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: flushed motley brunch

Whether it breaks the rules depends on the circumstances though. There is a difference between visiting a crime scene to discount eye-witness testimony and going to a website to look at an ad that is at issue in the case. I don't know enough about this case to say whether the information Soto got online was improper or not. There are arguments dating back nearly a century (maybe longer) about what kind of extra-record factual info appellate courts can properly consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655769)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Thirsty antidepressant drug temple

I wasn't giving a view on the propriety of Sotomayor's research here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655811)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: vibrant well-lubricated tank

There is no guarantee that the ad she looked at is the ad at issue in the case, though. People change their websites. If the ad is *actually* at issue in the case, it will be in the record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655838)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: soul-stirring territorial faggot firefighter gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237122)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: claret titillating business firm

Both are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king

there was a case about how long it took union members to put on and take off their clothes/uniforms. Posner had his clerks do it and Posner timed them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660157)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: french confused nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660171)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king

#MeTwink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660502)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Violent messiness

fucking garbage. He also reversed a case on the medical standard of care based on what he found on the Mayo Clinic website

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660215)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king

almost certainly the news stories about Posner and his public comments were a major reason the ABA issued that new opinion.

also, the MSM are saying that no one batted an eye when Roberts did what Soto just got slapped for. true. but since the Roberts thing, the new opinion came out and all the judges were educated about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660515)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Saffron racy shrine

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660638)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: vibrant well-lubricated tank

Going outside the record is some bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Thirsty antidepressant drug temple

Yeah. This includes the frequent refs you see to social science crap since the Brandeis brief, in my view - but as to plainly adjudicative facts, wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655722)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: vibrant well-lubricated tank

I don't mind when trial judges bring factual shit up sua sponte, as long as they give you an opportunity to address it with your own evidence, but once the evidentiary record is fixed it's even worse. This isn't "judicial notice" type of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655863)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: claret titillating business firm

Thugs in black robes, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655916)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king

http://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/FO_478_FINAL_12_07_17.pdf

Formal Opinion 478 December 8, 2017

Independent Factual Research by Judges Via the Internet

Easy access to a vast amount of information available on the Internet exposes judges to potential ethical problems. Judges risk violating the Model Code of Judicial Conduct by searching the Internet for information related to participants or facts in a proceeding. Independent investigation of adjudicative facts generally is prohibited unless the information is properly subject to judicial notice. The restriction on independent investigation includes individuals subject to the judge’s direction and control. 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660148)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: Avocado Hateful Hell Partner

Roberts barely concealing his contempt for the Wise Latina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655241)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: mildly autistic casino

If a freaking CJOTUSSC is willing to talk like that on the record you can imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660526)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Canary dashing associate toaster

oh what an exemplary. such anathema.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655278)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: idiotic lettuce lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655771)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: french confused nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655296)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: hairraiser clear national security agency

Lol @ the man who premised his Citizens United opinion on an issue no one raised or briefed lecturing someone else for looking "outside the record."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655646)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: vibrant well-lubricated tank

Those are two unrelated things, and they had reargument on that issue, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655697)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: hairraiser clear national security agency

More egregious to raise an unbriefed issue than to refer to publicly available tangential facts outside the record during oral argument. Apparently waiver rules mean nothing if Kennedy wants to write a TTT opinion. And I agree with scalia that Kennedy is TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655726)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: vibrant well-lubricated tank

Kennedy is absolutely TTT, but if there is an actual dispositive constitutional issue that would render other bases for decision null, I'm not sure if it's wrong to raise that. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655887)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: hairraiser clear national security agency

Usually SCOTUS says "we avoid broad constitutional rulings if possible."

The bigger issue is that both the "liberal" bloc (in Obergefell) and the "more conservative" bloc (in Citizens United and probably in Janus) sign on to Kennedy's TTT opinions because they need his vote. Apparently he's so thin-skinned that he'd vote the other way if anyone ever called him on his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35656173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: claret titillating business firm

You can't allow retarded attorneys and technical waiver rules to force the SCOTUS to change the meaning of the Constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655926)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Lascivious disturbing philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660161)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: twinkling razzmatazz fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655740)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Bateful station fortuitous meteor

I don't understand. None of this is about working at Nordstrom's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655685)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: adulterous misunderstood shitlib

PRORE TERR: calling it Nordstrom's instead of the correct Nordstrom, like "Tiffany's" instead of Tiffany

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655707)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: arousing grizzly marketing idea

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655788)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: ultramarine crackhouse circlehead

Sotomayor is like some kind of sick joke, derailing SCOTUS

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2160853&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655805)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Lavender Learning Disabled Locale

Thomas, J., laying down the law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heQjKdHu1P4&t=41m45s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655903)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Brass trailer park candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35660545)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: claret titillating business firm

Pure pwnage by Kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#35655929)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: laughsome sooty coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924914&forum_id=2#43237109)