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subtext of Mulan that I didn't notice til I rewatched it today

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed ...
Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace
  03/21/18
Nah man
Harsh half-breed trailer park
  03/21/18
explain
Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace
  03/21/18
A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat ...
Harsh half-breed trailer park
  03/22/18
maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even thoug...
trip avocado cruise ship
  03/21/18
rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexi...
Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace
  03/21/18
lmao
trip avocado cruise ship
  03/21/18
this seems completely correct.
Aromatic Psychic
  03/22/18
Also explains why stone age societies were among the first t...
razzle-dazzle reading party
  03/22/18
women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any...
appetizing puce lodge
  03/22/18
women are appropriately revered in any functional empire
cerise selfie
  03/21/18
That movie sucked
charismatic spot
  03/21/18
why were you rewatching mulan?
Excitant kitty
  03/22/18
why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan ...
Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace
  03/22/18
Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?
Misunderstood bateful house ladyboy
  03/22/18
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amber lettuce
  03/22/18
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amber lettuce
  03/22/18
if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian ge...
Floppy Pit
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Fiercely-loyal school striped hyena
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Dashing gold area
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Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace
  03/22/18


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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed by the idea of a woman being a soldier are the Huns.

Shan Yu finds out, at the very end, that Mulan is a woman, and does not seem shocked by it. Instead, Mulan is just the soldier that defeated his army in the mountains, a worthy foe for him to chase and try to kill. He could easily have expressed shock at the fact that it was A WOMAN who killed his army, but he declines to do so.

I think the writers of Mulan were aware that the infantilization of women is a disease of settled, rich societies. While no women are seen among the Hun army that marches on a poorly disguised Chang'an, surely the Huns must be familiar with the idea of women playing important roles in war and politics. Shan Yu's rise to power may well have been assisted by an astute and brave wife, much as Genghis Khan's rise a thousand years later would be.

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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Harsh half-breed trailer park

Nah man

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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace

explain

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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Harsh half-breed trailer park

A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat by an inferior version of their opponent. So they’d act like it was nbd they lost to a woman to not further the humiliation

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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: trip avocado cruise ship

maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even though your enemies are actual savages they still aren't as sexist as you" point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658582)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace

rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexist. they need women to be full participants. there's a reason why Wyoming and New Zealand pioneered women's suffrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658588)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: trip avocado cruise ship

lmao

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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: Aromatic Psychic

this seems completely correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660244)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle reading party

Also explains why stone age societies were among the first to legalize abortion and allow women the right to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660260)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: appetizing puce lodge

women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any feminist would say those societies were sexist and "toxically masculine"

men were warriors and hunters and they sometimes had many wives. women prepared food, made clothing and took care of kids and shit. women were still inferior to men as "full participants"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35661004)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: cerise selfie

women are appropriately revered in any functional empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658585)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: charismatic spot

That movie sucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658596)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:42 AM
Author: Excitant kitty

why were you rewatching mulan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659418)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace

why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan happened to be on TV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659810)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: Misunderstood bateful house ladyboy

Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660208)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: amber lettuce



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: amber lettuce



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Floppy Pit

if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian german gender egalitarianism was shocking and disgusting.

(of course then roman SHREWS started dying their hair blonde and talking about muh barbarian women's lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660273)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal school striped hyena



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: Dashing gold area



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Marvelous Pink Pervert Electric Furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660626)