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subtext of Mulan that I didn't notice til I rewatched it today

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed ...
Trip heaven mood
  03/21/18
Nah man
Razzmatazz Cerise Brunch
  03/21/18
explain
Trip heaven mood
  03/21/18
A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat ...
Razzmatazz Cerise Brunch
  03/22/18
maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even thoug...
excitant theatre jewess
  03/21/18
rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexi...
Trip heaven mood
  03/21/18
lmao
excitant theatre jewess
  03/21/18
this seems completely correct.
orchid electric furnace
  03/22/18
Also explains why stone age societies were among the first t...
Painfully Honest Gaping Gaming Laptop
  03/22/18
women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any...
bearded gunner stain
  03/22/18
women are appropriately revered in any functional empire
floppy mauve kitty shrine
  03/21/18
That movie sucked
greedy self-centered coldplay fan
  03/21/18
why were you rewatching mulan?
coral internal respiration
  03/22/18
why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan ...
Trip heaven mood
  03/22/18
Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?
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  03/22/18
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  03/22/18
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  03/22/18
if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian ge...
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: Trip heaven mood

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed by the idea of a woman being a soldier are the Huns.

Shan Yu finds out, at the very end, that Mulan is a woman, and does not seem shocked by it. Instead, Mulan is just the soldier that defeated his army in the mountains, a worthy foe for him to chase and try to kill. He could easily have expressed shock at the fact that it was A WOMAN who killed his army, but he declines to do so.

I think the writers of Mulan were aware that the infantilization of women is a disease of settled, rich societies. While no women are seen among the Hun army that marches on a poorly disguised Chang'an, surely the Huns must be familiar with the idea of women playing important roles in war and politics. Shan Yu's rise to power may well have been assisted by an astute and brave wife, much as Genghis Khan's rise a thousand years later would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658492)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Cerise Brunch

Nah man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658510)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: Trip heaven mood

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658568)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Cerise Brunch

A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat by an inferior version of their opponent. So they’d act like it was nbd they lost to a woman to not further the humiliation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: excitant theatre jewess

maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even though your enemies are actual savages they still aren't as sexist as you" point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658582)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Trip heaven mood

rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexist. they need women to be full participants. there's a reason why Wyoming and New Zealand pioneered women's suffrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658588)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: excitant theatre jewess

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658597)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: orchid electric furnace

this seems completely correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660244)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Painfully Honest Gaping Gaming Laptop

Also explains why stone age societies were among the first to legalize abortion and allow women the right to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660260)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: bearded gunner stain

women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any feminist would say those societies were sexist and "toxically masculine"

men were warriors and hunters and they sometimes had many wives. women prepared food, made clothing and took care of kids and shit. women were still inferior to men as "full participants"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35661004)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: floppy mauve kitty shrine

women are appropriately revered in any functional empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658585)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: greedy self-centered coldplay fan

That movie sucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658596)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:42 AM
Author: coral internal respiration

why were you rewatching mulan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659418)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: Trip heaven mood

why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan happened to be on TV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659810)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: Drab Electric Elastic Band

Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660208)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: big tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660293)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: big tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659815)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: carmine vibrant weed whacker base

if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian german gender egalitarianism was shocking and disgusting.

(of course then roman SHREWS started dying their hair blonde and talking about muh barbarian women's lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660273)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: wine embarrassed to the bone nursing home pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660640)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: Clear adulterous stage ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660953)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Trip heaven mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660626)