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subtext of Mulan that I didn't notice til I rewatched it today

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed ...
Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma
  03/21/18
Nah man
tripping pocket flask
  03/21/18
explain
Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma
  03/21/18
A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat ...
tripping pocket flask
  03/22/18
maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even thoug...
demanding affirmative action
  03/21/18
rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexi...
Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma
  03/21/18
lmao
demanding affirmative action
  03/21/18
this seems completely correct.
Buck-toothed Duck-like Institution
  03/22/18
Also explains why stone age societies were among the first t...
Jade circlehead
  03/22/18
women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any...
olive adventurous knife
  03/22/18
women are appropriately revered in any functional empire
Idiotic beady-eyed market sex offender
  03/21/18
That movie sucked
Black misanthropic church fanboi
  03/21/18
why were you rewatching mulan?
floppy cruise ship
  03/22/18
why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan ...
Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma
  03/22/18
Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?
Spectacular rigor
  03/22/18
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Azure galvanic regret mother
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Azure galvanic regret mother
  03/22/18
if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian ge...
Purple Office Rigpig
  03/22/18
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onyx sneaky criminal
  03/22/18
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Brindle Meetinghouse Genital Piercing
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Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma
  03/22/18


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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed by the idea of a woman being a soldier are the Huns.

Shan Yu finds out, at the very end, that Mulan is a woman, and does not seem shocked by it. Instead, Mulan is just the soldier that defeated his army in the mountains, a worthy foe for him to chase and try to kill. He could easily have expressed shock at the fact that it was A WOMAN who killed his army, but he declines to do so.

I think the writers of Mulan were aware that the infantilization of women is a disease of settled, rich societies. While no women are seen among the Hun army that marches on a poorly disguised Chang'an, surely the Huns must be familiar with the idea of women playing important roles in war and politics. Shan Yu's rise to power may well have been assisted by an astute and brave wife, much as Genghis Khan's rise a thousand years later would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658492)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: tripping pocket flask

Nah man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658510)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma

explain

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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: tripping pocket flask

A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat by an inferior version of their opponent. So they’d act like it was nbd they lost to a woman to not further the humiliation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: demanding affirmative action

maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even though your enemies are actual savages they still aren't as sexist as you" point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658582)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma

rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexist. they need women to be full participants. there's a reason why Wyoming and New Zealand pioneered women's suffrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658588)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: demanding affirmative action

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658597)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: Buck-toothed Duck-like Institution

this seems completely correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660244)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Jade circlehead

Also explains why stone age societies were among the first to legalize abortion and allow women the right to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660260)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: olive adventurous knife

women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any feminist would say those societies were sexist and "toxically masculine"

men were warriors and hunters and they sometimes had many wives. women prepared food, made clothing and took care of kids and shit. women were still inferior to men as "full participants"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35661004)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Idiotic beady-eyed market sex offender

women are appropriately revered in any functional empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658585)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: Black misanthropic church fanboi

That movie sucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658596)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:42 AM
Author: floppy cruise ship

why were you rewatching mulan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659418)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma

why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan happened to be on TV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659810)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: Spectacular rigor

Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660208)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: Azure galvanic regret mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660293)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: Azure galvanic regret mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659815)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Purple Office Rigpig

if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian german gender egalitarianism was shocking and disgusting.

(of course then roman SHREWS started dying their hair blonde and talking about muh barbarian women's lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660273)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: onyx sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660640)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: Brindle Meetinghouse Genital Piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660953)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Razzle Mildly Autistic Den Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660626)