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subtext of Mulan that I didn't notice til I rewatched it today

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed ...
nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
Nah man
zippy citrine sanctuary
  03/21/18
explain
nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat ...
zippy citrine sanctuary
  03/22/18
maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even thoug...
contagious violent property
  03/21/18
rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexi...
nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap
  03/21/18
lmao
contagious violent property
  03/21/18
this seems completely correct.
pearl stirring resort pozpig
  03/22/18
Also explains why stone age societies were among the first t...
chartreuse soul-stirring voyeur potus
  03/22/18
women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any...
Maize beady-eyed gunner garrison
  03/22/18
women are appropriately revered in any functional empire
Light provocative abode
  03/21/18
That movie sucked
saffron nursing home
  03/21/18
why were you rewatching mulan?
crystalline state candlestick maker
  03/22/18
why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan ...
nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap
  03/22/18
Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?
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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap

The only characters who never comment on or seem distressed by the idea of a woman being a soldier are the Huns.

Shan Yu finds out, at the very end, that Mulan is a woman, and does not seem shocked by it. Instead, Mulan is just the soldier that defeated his army in the mountains, a worthy foe for him to chase and try to kill. He could easily have expressed shock at the fact that it was A WOMAN who killed his army, but he declines to do so.

I think the writers of Mulan were aware that the infantilization of women is a disease of settled, rich societies. While no women are seen among the Hun army that marches on a poorly disguised Chang'an, surely the Huns must be familiar with the idea of women playing important roles in war and politics. Shan Yu's rise to power may well have been assisted by an astute and brave wife, much as Genghis Khan's rise a thousand years later would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658492)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: zippy citrine sanctuary

Nah man

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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap

explain

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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: zippy citrine sanctuary

A proud warrior people would rather not admit they got beat by an inferior version of their opponent. So they’d act like it was nbd they lost to a woman to not further the humiliation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660173)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: contagious violent property

maybe the writers were just going for a "heh even though your enemies are actual savages they still aren't as sexist as you" point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658582)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap

rough and tumble frontier societies cannot afford to be sexist. they need women to be full participants. there's a reason why Wyoming and New Zealand pioneered women's suffrage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658588)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: contagious violent property

lmao

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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: pearl stirring resort pozpig

this seems completely correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660244)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: chartreuse soul-stirring voyeur potus

Also explains why stone age societies were among the first to legalize abortion and allow women the right to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660260)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Maize beady-eyed gunner garrison

women participated in hunter gatherer type societies but any feminist would say those societies were sexist and "toxically masculine"

men were warriors and hunters and they sometimes had many wives. women prepared food, made clothing and took care of kids and shit. women were still inferior to men as "full participants"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35661004)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Light provocative abode

women are appropriately revered in any functional empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658585)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: saffron nursing home

That movie sucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35658596)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 3:42 AM
Author: crystalline state candlestick maker

why were you rewatching mulan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659418)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap

why not? any 90's Disney film is worth rewatching and Mulan happened to be on TV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659810)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: Harsh bearded police squad

Even The Hunchback of Notre Dame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660208)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: sepia location personal credit line



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: sepia location personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35659815)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: racy chapel

if you've read roman shit you know they thought barbarian german gender egalitarianism was shocking and disgusting.

(of course then roman SHREWS started dying their hair blonde and talking about muh barbarian women's lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660273)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: charismatic frozen turdskin dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660640)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: copper dopamine coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660953)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: nubile heaven mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3925291&forum_id=2#35660626)