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Let's discuss the role of eunuchs in historical empires

In Asia, there is a very long tradition of Emperors using eu...
Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
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laughsome feces
  03/23/18
don't we post about asians enough as it is?
razzle-dazzle son of senegal weed whacker
  03/23/18
Well, in the Ottoman Empire, there were two classes of eunuc...
Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
HOWEVER, it was not unusual for the Sultan to be on good per...
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Anal honey-headed idea he suggested
  03/23/18
here is the Chief Black Eunuch guarding the harem doors in 1...
Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
guarantee the sultan's wife has been tryna fluff dat BBC
Navy Excitant Depressive Base
  03/23/18
180 do you have a source for ottomman harem scholarship?
180 pistol
  03/23/18
180
Drab filthy address
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laughsome feces
  03/23/18
how is this not on topic? Azns = eunuchs
razzle-dazzle son of senegal weed whacker
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unhinged diverse trust fund lodge
  03/23/18
Trusted advisors, the machinery of the state is far worse wi...
180 pistol
  03/23/18
The Olmecs produced figurines with spread legs and no genita...
light laser beams
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Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
I really like it here
White Piazza Sweet Tailpipe
  03/23/18
Justinian was jealous of his star general Belisarius so he l...
wonderful dopamine death wish
  03/23/18
fuck, I forgot about Narses
Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
Basil the Bulger Slayer had to overthrow his eunuch uncle Ba...
wonderful dopamine death wish
  03/23/18
I love finding another human being who knows about Basil the...
Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
Fuck 51 years
Hyperactive shaky theatre
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Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
Pls respond to my question re harem scholarship above
180 pistol
  03/23/18
Charles, got anything?
Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon
  03/23/18
180. Keep going.
greedy boyish theater stage
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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

In Asia, there is a very long tradition of Emperors using eunuchs as advisors. The thought is, since a eunuch cannot found a new dynasty, a eunuch is less likely to rebel against you.

Especially in China and in the Ottoman Empire, there were times when the emperor's eunuch advisors basically ran the show. Poor families would beg the government to castrate their sons, so that their sons could live in palatial splendor as advisors to the ruler.

In the Ottoman Empire, an official called the "Chief Black Eunuch" was given the honor of guarding the harem. It was extremely important to keep men other than the Sultan out of the harem, it was the only way to be 100% sure that all the children born to harem women were children of the Sultan and therefore potential heirs.

Oddly enough, in the 1700's, there WAS a eunuch in Iran who overthrew the government and founded his own dynasty: he adopted a cousin or nephew as his heir.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668747)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: laughsome feces



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle son of senegal weed whacker

don't we post about asians enough as it is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668752)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

Well, in the Ottoman Empire, there were two classes of eunuchs, and neither were Asian.

"White Eunuchs", recruited from the Balkans, worked in the government and advised the Sultan

"Black Eunuchs", recruited from sub-Saharan Africa, guarded the harem and ensured that harem women slept only with the Sultan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668761)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

HOWEVER, it was not unusual for the Sultan to be on good personal terms with the Chief Black Eunuch and use him as a trusted advisor as well. After all, the Sultan was in the harem a lot, and odds are the Chief Black Eunuch knew the Sultan's mother well. As the Ottoman Empire went on, the mother of the emperor tended to be a more powerful figure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668769)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Anal honey-headed idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35669031)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

here is the Chief Black Eunuch guarding the harem doors in 1912

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Ottoman_eunuch%2C_1912.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668777)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Navy Excitant Depressive Base

guarantee the sultan's wife has been tryna fluff dat BBC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668838)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: 180 pistol

180 do you have a source for ottomman harem scholarship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668947)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: Drab filthy address

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668957)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: laughsome feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668763)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:37 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle son of senegal weed whacker

how is this not on topic? Azns = eunuchs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668781)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: unhinged diverse trust fund lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668755)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: 180 pistol

Trusted advisors, the machinery of the state is far worse without them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668760)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: light laser beams

The Olmecs produced figurines with spread legs and no genitalia. These are believed to represent eunuchs, although it is unknown what role(s) they may have played in Olmec society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668821)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668822)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: White Piazza Sweet Tailpipe

I really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668840)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: wonderful dopamine death wish

Justinian was jealous of his star general Belisarius so he let his trusted eunuch Narses finish the re-conquest of Rome for the empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668844)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

fuck, I forgot about Narses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668849)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: wonderful dopamine death wish

Basil the Bulger Slayer had to overthrow his eunuch uncle Bardes before he could rule in his own right and become more than a puppet.

This is right around when the Byzantines hit their peak in the Middle Ages and were likely the strongest state in the world (I don’t know anything about China history) at this time. Byzantines are fielding multiple well trained 25-30K armies while Billy the Conk (who had maybe 10K men) hasn’t even hit England yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668865)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

I love finding another human being who knows about Basil the Bulgar Slayer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35668932)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Hyperactive shaky theatre

Fuck 51 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35669228)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35669068)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: 180 pistol

Pls respond to my question re harem scholarship above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35669237)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Bronze Motley Mediation Dragon

Charles, got anything?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35670616)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 1:44 AM
Author: greedy boyish theater stage

180. Keep going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3926581&forum_id=2#35676043)