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Describe the initial shock of your first exposure to xo

The shrew poasts really got to me. The notion of the shrew i...
Orange library
  03/23/18
people used to post fake links to tubgirl. thought that was...
Topaz Boiling Water
  03/23/18
It was fall of 2011. I had just been offered a 2L SA gig at...
Judgmental Red Dopamine
  03/23/18
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domesticated stead
  03/23/18
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Cerebral people who are hurt
  03/24/18
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sadistic plaza
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Stimulating stock car
  03/24/18
i came over from princeton review it was a smooth transition...
histrionic dead abode fortuitous meteor
  03/23/18
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obsidian contagious factory reset button
  03/24/18
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Cerebral people who are hurt
  03/24/18
repulsed glee
Razzle-dazzle Emerald Love Of Her Life
  03/23/18
been here since 04. never felt a shock. just felt at home.
laughsome antidepressant drug fat ankles
  03/23/18
...
crawly irradiated background story
  03/23/18
Mostly just the shame of being so unprestigious
Ebony motley puppy athletic conference
  03/23/18
no shock. immediately thought "this is who i am now&quo...
domesticated stead
  03/23/18
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Mewling Fighting Idea He Suggested Casino
  03/23/18
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Embarrassed to the bone exciting turdskin
  03/24/18
No shock. I posted on PR first.
Cocky bipolar jap national
  03/23/18
I was linked here from a law school thread on 4chan's busine...
multi-colored tattoo round eye
  03/23/18
Lmao how olde are you
electric geriatric step-uncle's house
  03/23/18
Zero
Brindle Nibblets
  03/23/18
Some of my early posting was on "phd in teenage Inuit s...
aquamarine school filthpig
  03/23/18
i was offended by the constant use of the world "proles...
hairraiser sticky piazza immigrant
  03/23/18
Confusion about how no one was posting about anything relate...
Wonderful henna site roast beef
  03/23/18
prole tell. prestigious law schools don't teach the law a...
Pearl provocative trailer park
  03/24/18
...
Wonderful henna site roast beef
  03/24/18
I was terrified of expert mode
fragrant glassy striped hyena
  03/23/18
The shittiness of the format. The first time I clicked on a ...
appetizing irate public bath
  03/23/18
It held no shock for me since I spent my formative years was...
Drunken maroon theater stage
  03/23/18
I've literally been posting here for over a decade.
spectacular wine locus mother
  03/23/18
xo is the most niche thing i've posted on, but honestly i th...
violent boltzmann
  03/24/18
SA had like 100,000 members at one time
hairraiser sticky piazza immigrant
  03/24/18
There actually used to be threads on the LSAT. Hilarious. ...
Pea-brained sneaky criminal
  03/23/18
lingo was weird but i was captivated by the discussion of la...
turquoise learning disabled hall boistinker
  03/23/18
Like The Paper Chase, but about the Asian Pacific American L...
Drunken maroon theater stage
  03/23/18
Lol i was actually surprised at the high level of discussion...
turquoise learning disabled hall boistinker
  03/23/18
...
Razzmatazz sweet tailpipe
  03/24/18
didn't know why everyone was so obsessed with "niggers....
violent boltzmann
  03/23/18
I was in shock at how vulgar and nasty very intelligent peop...
electric geriatric step-uncle's house
  03/23/18
Found this place by hate-googling "strivers" and h...
pungent patrolman
  03/23/18
Tame, b/c I didn't click EXPERT MODE until very recently. I ...
thirsty lavender dragon senate
  03/23/18
i had no clue what the fuck i was looking at. huge strings ...
diverse half-breed clown
  03/23/18
...
Drunken maroon theater stage
  03/23/18
...
turquoise learning disabled hall boistinker
  03/23/18
that sounds accurate to me
fragrant glassy striped hyena
  03/24/18
haha did not understand the blank bumps at first - kept thin...
Stimulating stock car
  03/24/18
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Drunken maroon theater stage
  03/24/18
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Stimulating stock car
  03/24/18
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Wonderful henna site roast beef
  03/24/18
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Stimulating stock car
  03/24/18
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obsidian contagious factory reset button
  03/24/18
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Drunken maroon theater stage
  03/24/18
2007 or 2008. I was looking for law school application advic...
Cordovan church codepig
  03/24/18
i think i asked a legit question about my background and get...
Bearded university toilet seat
  03/24/18
reading threw a turd at a nigger is when i realized xo is my...
Floppy orchestra pit
  03/24/18
Go back to europe, pilgrim
electric geriatric step-uncle's house
  03/24/18
"Wow maybe these guys who openly say nigger can tell me...
Garnet School Cafeteria Ratface
  03/24/18
...
fragrant glassy striped hyena
  03/24/18
entered right before ITE hit; first thought “why does this p...
Arousing lilac den faggot firefighter
  03/24/18
Shock? What shock?
obsidian contagious factory reset button
  03/24/18
This post sums it up nicely http://www.xoxohth.com/thread...
insane carmine private investor office
  03/24/18
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obsidian contagious factory reset button
  03/24/18
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Drunken maroon theater stage
  03/24/18
I recall that as I intended to graduate in the top 10% perce...
razzle kitchen
  03/24/18
Reminded me of an old forum I used to post on that was slowl...
slate indecent indian lodge
  03/24/18
I wanted to offer sage advice here. I tried a couple times,...
sepia range
  03/24/18
Summer of 2001-- was the PR bort back then. Was looking for ...
Deranged deep double fault
  03/24/18
"Law students are the fucking worst, these people are r...
sepia range
  03/24/18
...
Mind-boggling primrose goal in life headpube
  03/24/18
did not understand what "180" meant for months (I'...
Stimulating stock car
  03/24/18
Tasted like roadkill.
Vermilion Adventurous Legend
  03/24/18
We need more OldHLSDude stories/poasts
Orange library
  03/24/18


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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: Orange library

The shrew poasts really got to me. The notion of the shrew is so deeply ingrained and treated as so self-evident here that it's an axiom at the core of bort's collective consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674931)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: Topaz Boiling Water

people used to post fake links to tubgirl. thought that was kooky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674937)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: Judgmental Red Dopamine

It was fall of 2011. I had just been offered a 2L SA gig at a v10 firm and I thought I had set myself up for a life of prestige and prosperity. Smugly I searched the internet for vindication and validation and somehow stumbled onto this place. BOY WAS I IN FOR A SHOCK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674945)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: domesticated stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675020)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: Cerebral people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676623)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: sadistic plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676892)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Stimulating stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35677321)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: histrionic dead abode fortuitous meteor

i came over from princeton review it was a smooth transition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674952)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: obsidian contagious factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676602)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: Cerebral people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676624)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Emerald Love Of Her Life

repulsed glee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674961)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: laughsome antidepressant drug fat ankles

been here since 04. never felt a shock. just felt at home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674994)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: crawly irradiated background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675319)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: Ebony motley puppy athletic conference

Mostly just the shame of being so unprestigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35674999)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: domesticated stead

no shock. immediately thought "this is who i am now"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675001)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: Mewling Fighting Idea He Suggested Casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675025)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone exciting turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676630)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:30 PM
Author: Cocky bipolar jap national

No shock. I posted on PR first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675005)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: multi-colored tattoo round eye

I was linked here from a law school thread on 4chan's business & finance board. It was the spring of 2014 and there were lots of apparently nonsensical threads all over the board about "Jillian Beck UCLA" and "Liz Hawryluk UNC." Not sure why I kept coming back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675013)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:45 PM
Author: electric geriatric step-uncle's house

Lmao how olde are you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675564)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: Brindle Nibblets

Zero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675026)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: aquamarine school filthpig

Some of my early posting was on "phd in teenage Inuit suicide prevention", where I was mocking some loser in a coffee shop senior year of ug. Also had some even earlier posts on "Asian watching CNN as if they're American" from a lounge on campus junior year. Guess it all just made sense early on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675033)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: hairraiser sticky piazza immigrant

i was offended by the constant use of the world "proles" by what i assumed to be a bunch of rich snooty lawyer types. how extremely wrong i was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675058)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Wonderful henna site roast beef

Confusion about how no one was posting about anything related to law; and why are most of the posts empty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675310)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:32 AM
Author: Pearl provocative trailer park

prole tell.

prestigious law schools don't teach the law and prestigious legal discussion boards don't discuss the law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676626)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Wonderful henna site roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676898)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: fragrant glassy striped hyena

I was terrified of expert mode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675325)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: appetizing irate public bath

The shittiness of the format. The first time I clicked on a link to AutoAdmit, I thought it was a bad link because a prestigious law board couldn't possibly look that primitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675336)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:36 PM
Author: Drunken maroon theater stage

It held no shock for me since I spent my formative years wasting time on similar forums, boards, groups, etc. They are all gone now. This won't last, either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675497)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: spectacular wine locus mother

I've literally been posting here for over a decade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675634)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: violent boltzmann

xo is the most niche thing i've posted on, but honestly i thought the same thing about 4chan and something awful a decade and a half ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675646)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:19 AM
Author: hairraiser sticky piazza immigrant

SA had like 100,000 members at one time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676586)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: Pea-brained sneaky criminal

There actually used to be threads on the LSAT. Hilarious.

The racism was shocking, but the board leaned much more left in the mid-2000's. I remember trying to immigration thread once in 2007 and people asked me if I was serious.

Lurked at all of the Leiter and law suit stuff. Board was garbage for long stretches during 2011-2016. Surprisingly decent now. Trump seems to have helped

Edit: it also really helped when Rach came back for a bit and reenergized the place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675539)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:43 PM
Author: turquoise learning disabled hall boistinker

lingo was weird but i was captivated by the discussion of law school lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675552)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:45 PM
Author: Drunken maroon theater stage

Like The Paper Chase, but about the Asian Pacific American Law Students Association at Fordham Law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675565)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:47 PM
Author: turquoise learning disabled hall boistinker

Lol i was actually surprised at the high level of discussion here. i had lurked on TLS before that. the law school advice here was much more cut and dry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675580)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: Razzmatazz sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676885)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:44 PM
Author: violent boltzmann

didn't know why everyone was so obsessed with "niggers." then i moved to new york.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675560)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:50 PM
Author: electric geriatric step-uncle's house

I was in shock at how vulgar and nasty very intelligent people in good jobs were. I was in college and i had always grown up trying to be "successful" since i grew up in a poor, mexican immigrant family. But i was captivated at the insight on life the bort had. I learned a lot here about investing, COL analysis, and liberals. I remember a thread called "you cant be more hipster than this chick" and i just laughed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675595)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:51 PM
Author: pungent patrolman

Found this place by hate-googling "strivers" and hitting the HAHAURFUCKED goldmine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675601)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: thirsty lavender dragon senate

Tame, b/c I didn't click EXPERT MODE until very recently. I thought the threads there were garbage. Now I'm playing in it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675611)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: diverse half-breed clown

i had no clue what the fuck i was looking at. huge strings of blank bumps and also some unhinged spammer google bomb shit made me think that it was a dead bort that had been overrun by bots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675612)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: Drunken maroon theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675616)



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Date: March 23rd, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: turquoise learning disabled hall boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675636)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: fragrant glassy striped hyena

that sounds accurate to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676724)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: Stimulating stock car

haha did not understand the blank bumps at first - kept thinking "why can't I see what these posts say???". After I figure it out, I started making my own blank bumps by writing "..." lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676854)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: Drunken maroon theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676856)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Stimulating stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676869)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Wonderful henna site roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676905)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: Stimulating stock car

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676928)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: obsidian contagious factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676903)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Drunken maroon theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35677324)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Cordovan church codepig

2007 or 2008. I was looking for law school application advice I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675652)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:54 AM
Author: Bearded university toilet seat

i think i asked a legit question about my background and getting into LS. the bort took it as a joke and was the first time I learned what "flame" was. It was all downhill from there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675849)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: Floppy orchestra pit

reading threw a turd at a nigger is when i realized xo is my spiritual home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675675)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: electric geriatric step-uncle's house

Go back to europe, pilgrim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675710)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Garnet School Cafeteria Ratface

"Wow maybe these guys who openly say nigger can tell me something valuable about law school."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675730)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: fragrant glassy striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676731)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: Arousing lilac den faggot firefighter

entered right before ITE hit; first thought “why does this place look like such shit?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35675823)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: obsidian contagious factory reset button

Shock? What shock?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676598)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:25 AM
Author: insane carmine private investor office

This post sums it up nicely

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=934135&forum_id=2#10927848

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676610)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: obsidian contagious factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676622)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: Drunken maroon theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676625)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: razzle kitchen

I recall that as I intended to graduate in the top 10% percent of my class that very little advice here applied to me.

I didn't come back until I graduated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676748)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: slate indecent indian lodge

Reminded me of an old forum I used to post on that was slowly dying, made me decide I really liked it here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676816)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: sepia range

I wanted to offer sage advice here. I tried a couple times, like a twat, and everyone told me to fuck off. lol xo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676909)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: Deranged deep double fault

Summer of 2001-- was the PR bort back then. Was looking for guidance re law school. Was hooked. Showed the bort to my friend who was a lawyer and he said something like, "Law students are the fucking worst, these people are representative of the assholes you will deal with in law school." Didn't stop me from being an xo'er since. Mostly lurked tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676950)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: sepia range

"Law students are the fucking worst, these people are representative of the assholes you will deal with in law school."

Reminds me of "it is a truth universally acknowledged that a man in possession of a fortune ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676953)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: Mind-boggling primrose goal in life headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676959)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: Stimulating stock car

did not understand what "180" meant for months (I'm not a lwyer).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35676962)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Vermilion Adventurous Legend

Tasted like roadkill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35677309)



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Date: March 24th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Orange library

We need more OldHLSDude stories/poasts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3927410&forum_id=2#35677329)